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Sep 20, 2015 13:33:20   #
"The false flag operation of 9/11 was not an “intelligence failure”. It was the greatest “intelligence success” and criminal operation in history."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/911-eternal-pretext-eternal-war/5475419
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Sep 20, 2015 13:16:12   #
son of witless wrote:
The trying to collect twice on the insurance is a business decision. Seeing how all liberals are anti capitalist I don't know why screwing an insurance company is objectionable to you. As far as Silverstein and his family being absent during the event, what evidence do you have it wasn't luck? Keeping the event secret was essential to the success of the terrorists. There is no way letting it out so a few could not be there would not have resulted in failure.

I have to check on more stuff before I get back to you but, what is this about explosives in the towers?
The trying to collect twice on the insurance is a ... (show quote)


If your sense of morals allows you to excuse someone who attempts to profit excessively from a massive murder operation, then it will be difficult for me to have a conversation with you. My mind doesn't work that way.

You're kidding about not knowing the buildings were controlled demolitions, right?

This building in Madrid, consumed in flames, burned for over 20 hours and remained standing.


This building, which burned only at the top, is being brought down by powerful explosives at almost free-fall speed.

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Sep 20, 2015 11:23:04   #
J Anthony wrote:
Well Payne, it seems you are not being taken seriously enough here. Try equating the neocons with the neolibs, as their actions and policies hae become synonymous. Just my 2 cents


Zionists fund both political parties so what you say makes sense.
The parties have both been subverted by Zionist money--much of which was given to them from U.S. taxpayers in the form of foreign aid.
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Sep 20, 2015 11:20:22   #
reconreb wrote:
thanks!well said!


Another Zionist or Zionist sympathizer who cannot refute the evidence against Israel's complicity in the 9/11 attacks.
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Sep 20, 2015 10:47:08   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Think what you want. I don't care!


That indicates you know the evidence is rock solid.
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Sep 20, 2015 10:45:22   #
no propaganda please wrote:
I may be mistaken but wasn't it Payne who has put up the "articles" claiming the holicost didn't happen and that millions of Jews weren't murdered by the Nazis?


I never claimed the "Holocaust" never happened.
I just question if it happened the way the Zionists claim it did.
Zionists are notorious liars who have extorted millions from European countries with their lies. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/germany-agrees-to-300-million-more-in-restitution-to-jews-claims-conference-says-1.450027
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Sep 20, 2015 10:28:00   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
Payne, There is no need to refute what you post. The evidence is all well established. Your accusations are ludicrous.If you posted evidence that little green men are responsible for the last recession, I would ignore it as well. As long as you post such stupid lies from unreliable sources or interpret everything about Israel, Zionists or Jews in the worst possible scenario, to support your unfounded, racist, absurd, pro terrorist views, there is no need to disprove your posts. They disprove your views all by them selves!!lies
Payne, There is no need to refute what you post. T... (show quote)


As long as you claim the evidence is lies without showing any proof that it is, you are admitting that the evidence cannot be refuted.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:52:47   #
son of witless wrote:
Okay I will bite. What exactly are you alleging with Silverstein? I have read some but , not all of the links. He tried to collect twice on the insurance?


Silverstein controlled access to all three towers which were blown up on 9/11. Before Silverstein, the towers were controlled by Zionists who ran the NYC Port Authority. The explosives were planted in the Towers during Silverstein or the Port Authority's control of access. The fact that Silverstein tried to collect twice on insurance demonstrates how greedy Silverstein is.
The fact that Silverstein and his son and daughter did not show up to work in the towers on 9/11 indicates they either knew or were warned the buildings were to be exploded that day.
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Sep 20, 2015 06:37:55   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Payne, I took a look at this book review with Finkelstein, exposing the corruption amongst some "profiteers" - which I suspect is rather being twisted for political purposes.

Most efforts on documenting the Holocaust are for teaching purposes in hopes of never seeing such genocide again in human history. It is certainly worth trying to analyze what motivates human greed and envy into such an insane madness as WWI and WWII.

The US Army took photos of the concentration camps which are public record, simply horrific exposes of depravity and cruelty. They are public record, and nobody is making any "profit" of their documentation as they sit in the National Archives.

Keep in mind that most American Jews are quite liberal Democrat Party supporters, Progressives who originally championed the rise of socialism in Europe: Mussolini, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler in the 1930s. Hitler's party platform promised everything Franklin D. Roosevelt pitched.

Things went sour pretty quickly when greed and envy surfaced between socialists picking each other's pockets. Most of the Jews killed in the Holocaust were European capitalists trapped in the middle of the Great Depression, very different from their socialists American counterparts. It took a long time for the Americans to wake up to reality.

Because of Loftus' background with very high intelligence clearances, he has been able to shed some historical details on WWII and the Cold War worth hearing. He is not being used, far to savvy for that. I have read some of his books and found them quite authoritative, although from a Liberal's perspective he writes leaving out the catastrophic consequences of FDR's corruption and treason.

Finkelstein, whose family were Holocaust survivors, stated that he held great sympathy for the Palestinians plight, like many other American Jews, who do not view the progressive creeping socialism of the Middle East as a threat.

There is a rising nouveaux intelligentsia amongst the youth of the Middle East hijacking religion and politics alike. I wish Google search engines did a better job translating languages so that the Third World might be educated on the racism, pitfalls and deceit of Karl Marx and his socialist platforms. He was such an evil, manipulative man.
Payne, I took a look at this book review with Fink... (show quote)


Finkelstein, whose parents were holocaust survivors, would have no reason to misrepresent the Holocaust Industry.
Truth is not a virtue of Zionism.
If Jewish Karl Marx were alive today, he would most likely be a Zionist.
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Sep 20, 2015 06:30:43   #
son of witless wrote:
I'm sorry. I di----int bother even looking at those links you call evidence. If I decided it was worth my valuable time I might be able to refute it, but if these were true hows come I never heard of them before?

I am sick and tired of going out of my way to provide proof of what I say while you left wingers skate in these conversations.


If you've never heard of the evidence before, it's because the Zionist owned media censors all truth about 9/11. The reason Zionists have acquired ownership of all six major U.S. media corporations is so they can suppress all truth about Zionism and Israel.
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Sep 20, 2015 06:26:43   #
reconreb wrote:
mabe you would like to state what you belive , not what others claim!!


I believe the evidence against Israel.
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Sep 19, 2015 18:54:51   #
son of witless wrote:
I asked you before and I ask you again, what foreign countries do you favor? You bash Israel so you must favor her enemies!!!! Answer if you dare!!!!!!!!


From your reply, I assume you can't refute any of the evidence against Israel.

You and others here can't seem to get it through your thick skulls that if Israel was an accomplice in the 9/11 attacks then Israel is not our ally. Israel is instead one of our worst enemies.
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Sep 19, 2015 16:26:53   #
reconreb wrote:
Look payne, you can quote, state your opinion,and make intelligent statements , but when you threaten America,, I will not be intemidated nor will I ever back down, you belive what you will, I will belive what I will ,,, lets hope we never cross paths, have a good life or a short one, your choice,, recon, semper fi!! by the way I'm the one on the far right of your screen, you do not want to meet the others!!


I'm not threatening America by exposing the truth.
My evidence and information threatens Israel and Zionism.
That's why you're threatening me.
Are you a Hasbarat?


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Sep 19, 2015 16:23:14   #
Zemirah wrote:
The very concept of a "Hasbara Troll" is the mythical, but nonexistent invention of an overheated imagination.


Hasbara trolls are mythical? Only in the demented mind of a Hasbara Troll.

Check out what Hasbara trolls have been doing on the internet:

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/hasbara-spewing-semitism

http://www.smh.com.au/national/australian-is-jihadist-is-actually-an-jewish-american-troll-20150911-gjk852.html
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Sep 19, 2015 16:16:25   #
reconreb wrote:
Look payne, you can quote, state your opinion,and make intelligent statements , but when you threaten America,, I will not be intemidated nor will I ever back down, you belive what you will, I will belive what I will ,,, lets hope we never cross paths, have a good life or a short one, your choice,, recon, semper fi!! by the way I'm the one on the far right of your screen, you do not want to meet the others!!


Maybe you'd like to refute the evidence which implicates Zionists and Israel as being accomplices in the 9/11 false flag operation:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk

15. General Wesley Clark says Zionist Neocons took control of America's foreign policy in a coup made possible by 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oJUnG3Z6WI
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