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Oct 18, 2015 18:43:58   #
Worried for our children wrote:
Ok fair enough. I for one don't need their verification to think Mr. Danon is telling the truth. I know, I know, I've been propagandized; save it.


That's the trouble with those of you who believe the Bible.
Believing in one big lie makes you susceptible to believing other lies.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:39:41   #
RWNJ wrote:
There is, and never has been, a Palestinian state. Palestinians were squatters in an area that was a wasteland. The Jewish people had a historical claim to that land. And look what they've done with it. Just as the Bible predicted. Israel is now the bread basket of the middle east. The food they grow feeds much of the middle east. It is once again a land of milk and honey. The rag heads can bitch and moan all they want. The Jews are Gods chosen people. He will redeem them one day, and their enemies will perish. Every single one of them. Every empire that has raised it's hand against Israel is no more, yet Israel remains. That should tell you something. Never, in all of human history, have a people lost their homeland, been scattered across the globe, then reclaimed their homeland. The only explanation for Israels continued existence is the hand of God, protecting them, even though many of them still reject Him.
There is, and never has been, a Palestinian state.... (show quote)


Your attitude is exactly why Jews are so disrespected worldwide.
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Oct 18, 2015 18:33:07   #
emarine wrote:
payne1000 wrote:
eagleye supplied sources. Where are your sources to back up your claim that WTC7 had construction problems?


See if you can find something unusual in wtc 7... then think about it...

The original 7 World Trade Center was a 47-story building, designed by Emery Roth & Sons, with a red granite facade. The building was 610 feet (190 m) tall, with a trapezoidal footprint that was 330 ft (100 m) long and 140 ft (43 m) wide. Tishman Realty & Construction managed construction of the building, which began in 1983. In May 1987, the building opened, becoming the seventh structure of the World Trade Center.

The building was constructed above a Con Edison substation that had been on the site since 1967. The substation had a caisson foundation designed to carry the weight of a future building of 25 stories containing 600,000 sq ft (56,000 m2). The final design for 7 World Trade Center was for a much larger building than originally planned when the substation was built. The structural design of 7 World Trade Center therefore included a system of gravity column transfer trusses and girders, located between floors 5 and 7, to transfer loads to the smaller foundation. Existing caissons installed in 1967 were used, along with new ones, to accommodate the building. The 5th floor functioned as a structural diaphragm, providing lateral stability and distribution of loads between the new and old caissons. Above the 7th floor, the building's structure was a typical tube-frame design, with columns in the core and on the perimeter, and lateral loads resisted by perimeter moment frames.





Transfer trusses used on the 5–7th floors to redistribute load to the foundation
A shipping and receiving ramp, which served the entire World Trade Center complex, occupied the eastern quarter of the 7 World Trade Center footprint. The building was open below the 3rd floor, providing space for truck clearance on the shipping ramp. The spray-on fireproofing for structural steel elements was gypsum-based Monokote which had a two-hour fire rating for steel beams, girders and trusses, and a three-hour rating for columns.

Mechanical equipment was installed on floors four through seven, including 12 transformers on the 5th floor. Several emergency generators installed in the building were used by the Office of Emergency Management, Salomon Smith Barney, and other tenants. In order to supply the generators, 24,000 gallons (91,000 L) of diesel fuel were stored below ground level. Diesel fuel distribution components were located at ground level, up to the ninth floor. After the World Trade Center bombings of February 26, 1993, New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani decided to situate the emergency command center and associated fuel tanks at 7 World Trade Center. Although this decision was criticized in light of the events of 9/11, the fuel in the building is today not believed to have contributed to the collapse of the building. The roof of the building included a small west penthouse and a larger east mechanical penthouse.
quote=payne1000 eagleye supplied sources. Where a... (show quote)


I don't see anything in the Wikipedia article which would cause WTC7 to fall like a classic controlled demolition. This high rise architect explains why fire could not bring the Tower down that fast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-3FQtZnk2A
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Oct 18, 2015 17:38:57   #
Worried for our children wrote:
I'm a big advocate of the old saying; "the only stupid question is the one not asked..." - but c'mon Kev, you obviously didn't even look at the link. Why does the backdrop read in English "security council" (next to the UN logo)

Did you think the pic was of a teacher showing the poster to a group of students?


The Israeli ambassador is obviously pitching propaganda at the UN. Why wouldn't he use the actual Palestinian illustration if that illustration existed? They had to manufacture the propaganda piece. The article you posted used this disclaimer: "Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.
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Oct 18, 2015 16:26:35   #
saltwind 78 wrote:
You may be interested in knowing that Israel has been and is now willing to sit down at peace talks with Palestinians without preconditions. The Palestinians have rejected this idea, Israel have been offered generous terms for peace which include a Palestinian state, and a presence in Jerusalem. At first they agreed, but then would or could not accept it. The Palestinians refuse any kind of compromise! They have demands that would change the Jewish state to a Muslim state. That is unacceptable and will never be agreed to by any government of Israel.
The current wave of terror in Jerusalem and other cities came about because the PA circulated false stories that Israel intended to violate the agreement on the Temple Mount.There are no plans to violate the Muslim holy sights on the Temple mount.
You may be interested in knowing that Israel has b... (show quote)


Without preconditions? That would mean returning to the pre-1967 borders. If they don't return to those borders, there is no land left for the state of Palestine.


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Oct 18, 2015 16:23:47   #
Kevyn wrote:
Why would a poster describing to students who read and write in Arabic how to stab Jews be written in English?


Good observation, Kevyn. It just illustrates how stupid Zionist propagandists can be.
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Oct 18, 2015 14:45:34   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Have you taken a look at Washington DC lately? 68 square miles surrounded by reality.


This explains why DC is corrupt:


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Oct 18, 2015 13:23:58   #
emarine wrote:
There you go Larry... you are getting into a topic that can very well be somewhat of a conspiracy... I never deigned that some knew about the 911 attack in advance... This is a completely different aspect than the physical event on 911... Your Silverman issue is week... Rumsfeld is another story...


The explosives in the towers prove that it was MIHOP instead of LIHOP.
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Oct 18, 2015 13:21:41   #
emarine wrote:
I posted to Larry long ago to get off the main towers and concentrate on WTC 7... There is somewhat of a problem with this failure... but the problem lays in the original construction and the enforcement of NYC building codes... not a controlled demolition... unless you guys can prove to me that high explosives can be silent and produce no shock waves in heavy smoke I'm game...


eagleye supplied sources. Where are your sources to back up your claim that WTC7 had construction problems?
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Oct 18, 2015 13:19:28   #
emarine wrote:
I have been working in a related field for 30 years, same math and science just different application ... the near free fall speed and the 100mph squibs correlate to a gravity induced event... if explosives were used the shockwaves from the explosions would have had a very visible effect on all the smoke around the Towers ... the speed of the "explosive squibs" in nothing but evidence proving your expert wrong... those buildings were mostly a huge volume of air filled with smoke... the buildings collapsed under their own weight from damage suffered by the 757's that stuck them... thermite is very slow inefficient and oblivious and mini nukes is plain nuts ... most of your conspiracy evidence is unsubstantiated at best and hearsay for the most part... The failure of the two towers is more than oblivious ... that's why nothing is being done about it except for the people who have to argue everything... there are better avenues to explore ... I provided a clear video in slow motion proving the moment of failure had nothing to do with explosives ...you and many others have good imaginations... had they tried to implode the towers it probably wouldn't have gone as well...
I have been working in a related field for 30 year... (show quote)


As is almost always the case, you don't provide sources to back up your erroneous claims. The only sources available to you are the same old cover-up sites you and other trolls always use. You know the ones--those written by John Ray who has no credentials in science or physics.
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Oct 18, 2015 11:58:28   #
emarine wrote:
I think we're making some headway here ... you don't understand plain English... Extremism is the problem no matter who it is that's extreme... especially religious extremist who kill in the name of their God or sell BS propaganda to "readers"


The real perpetrators who pulled off the 9/11 attacks certainly qualify as extremists. They also qualify as some of the most psychopathic terrorists to ever exist.
Here Senator Mark Dayton grills the 9/11 Commission and others involved in the false flag event. At the 28 minute mark on the video, Donald Rumsfeld says General Myers was with him at the Pentagon on 9/11. General Myers had claimed he was in Senator Max Clelland's office at the Capitol during the entire time of the attacks. So either Rumsfeld or Myers were lying. If Myers had been at the Pentagon he would have no excuse for not sending interceptors after the hijacked airliners.
Senator Dayton called out many of the lies and as a result he received death threats to himself and his family. He closed his political office, dismissed his aides and did not run for reelection. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrD8VbAcB2A
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Oct 18, 2015 11:44:28   #
emarine wrote:
I'm smart enough to do the math and understand the results... even though it's not my field of expertise... just like most on your lists


You're admitting what you're claiming is not your field of expertise.
Readers should listen to a physicist who does have the ability to make sense of the tower demolitions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HNIIdpMhFg
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Oct 18, 2015 11:33:35   #
emarine wrote:
I have stated many times that Arabs or Muslims are not the problem... extremism is the problem and I find you a bit extreme...


Islamophobia is extremism. Why don't you condemn the hatred of Arabs and Muslims?
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Oct 18, 2015 11:18:35   #
emarine wrote:
Really... then why do you post such stupid shit... your youturd video expert stated "explosive squibs traveling at 100mph" anyone knows to hear an explosion it has to travel faster than the speed of sound{343m/s} or 768mph... now that being said a high explosive capable of demolition travel's around 8000 m/s ... your expert seems to be one dumb bunny to me ... So Larry teach us "readers" your slow and silent high explosive theory now that we have computers and everything...


It's really difficult for you to disprove something that anyone can see with their own eyes. You're forced to come up with more and more made up physics and false information.
Readers should just use their eyes to determine if the building is falling from fire damage or is being blown to smithereens. Watch the South Tower go down. Explosions can be seen clearly in the top section on the left before the tower starts to fall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAvQKhjs7XM
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Oct 18, 2015 10:32:15   #
emarine wrote:
Amy Goodman is as far left as you go... she started the movement in Israel... Ford was so extreme he started his own anti Semitic news paper selling total hate just like you. Extremists are the problem... they sell lies just like you... their motive is hate... just like you... you are a coward hiding behind anti Zionism while selling anti Semitism... its more than obvious to anyone that follows your posts ...


If you are such a good judge of what constitutes hate, why aren't you condemning the hate of Arabs and Muslims which permeates this forum? Have you done that yet?
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