You are really struggling with this...

Since abortions are NOT covered in the Constitution it means the government cannot regulate it. As in, the government can NOT make laws to to enforce OR prohibit OR limit abortion.

...It works BOTH ways!!!!

Now, when Roe v Wade was upheld, how many Democrats were trying to write laws to enforce abortion? None. Because they're pro-choice not pro-forced. How many laws did they write to protect abortion? None, because that right was protected under the 1st amendment according to Roe v Wade.

Since Roe v Wade was overturned how many Republican signed laws to PROHIBIT abortion? LOTS!

So, I'm sorry but you trying to disqualify Biden's effort to codify Roe v Wade using the same legal argument that your own side has already blatantly violated to prohibit abortion in the first place.

The hypocrisy couldn't be more obvious if it was lit in neon.


I don't even know what you're talking about.


nah... If we're talking about abortion, I haven't changed my argument. Maybe you just didn't catch what I had said at some point. I'm sure it happens a lot.


You're lying... there is no interest in a law for abortion to kill babies. The ONLY laws regarding abortion are Republican laws... Republican laws that prohibit abortion... Republican travel bans on pregnant women so they can't get abortions in other states. Republican laws that authorize citizens to hunt down women like dogs. What's next Radiance? The stake? Burn 'em at the stake? Is that what you religious freaks want to do next?

yup

it was a rare moment and it was only a half-serious warning. I kind of knew him, so I took the liberty. And it worked.

OK... that was a load of BS.

1. Biden hasn't changed the border policy... Title 42 expired. Will you people EVER learn that?
2. Where is Biden expanding our government?
3. Where were you when Trump was piling on the national debt? Oh, it didn't show up on your news feed?

That being said... I don't think you have any clue what my position on taxes are, but I'll clue you in... I'm basically a geolibertarian and as such I think we should abolish income tax entirely. How does 0% sound?

You people lament about taxes all the time but when it comes to doing something about it all you can do is say cut spending! But you only want to cut what Democrats want to spend, even though Republicans spend just as much if not more. At the same time, the Democrats only want to cut what the Republicans want to spend, not what THEY want to spend. So cuts are always more like shaves.

Or some of you will talk about "flat tax" or any of the variety of limp wrist solutions. Why not get rid of income tax entirely? I bet you can't even fathom how it's possible.

*sigh* - do I want to go down this hole with you?

OK, two things...

1. I don't think your efforts to prohibit abortion will actually stop it from happening. In fact, it might make it worse.
2. I don't believe your claim that an embryo *IS* a person. Even Judaism says a person's life begins on his first breath. Personally, I wouldn't wait that long, but in the embryonic stage... yeah, not a person. Sorry.

One more thing... if you're supporting the Israeli slaughter of women and children in Palestine, don't EVEN talk to me about bypassing the intentional, pre-mediated murder of children.


Since when as "acceptable practice" made any difference? Wealthy people had doctors do it "discretely", poor people did it themselves while hidden. It just amazes me how you people actually think that by making something illegal it will stop people from doing it.

What bias?
The survey asks people who they want to vote for, then they ask what their top two issue are. They put it all together and publish the results. At what point do you see bias becoming an issue?

If there is anything being "conducted by the left" you could say it's the argument that I am making in reference to the poll because that's where MY bias comes in, which is certainly left of where YOU are. I'm telling everyone how *I* am reading it. The poll itself is indifferent.

nice entry though - come out swingin' ;)


I'm not you buzzy... I use a wide range of sources to triangulate. It's different from subscription loyalty. You should try it. As for development, it doesn't matter that it CAN take as little as 4 or 5 years, the average is over 10. And since most of the oil we have left is in reserves that require additional technologies, like fracking, the odds lean heavy on MORE than 10 years.

But why bicker? Let's just say 4 or 5 years... Fine. How long has Biden been in office? When did inflation happen? Excuse me, can 4 or 5 years of development happen in 3 years of Biden policy and can that ALL happen in 2021 when inflation shot up? 'Cause if all that can happen you got a solid theory on how Biden's energy policy caused that inflation!


When Biden took office only 24% of the leases for oil were on federal land. So it's not the end of prospecting little Miss Drama, but he *is* also pushing for more investment in renewable sources of energy. There's going to be a curve. You might be screaming and kicking, but we are continuing down the slope of the oil peak. Not because of Biden, but because it's time. Our energy mix is always evolving, it was wood for the longest time, then coal, then oil and on each turn you had disrupted industries screaming and kicking. All kinds of reports about how coal isn't as good as wood, or how oil is more dangerous than coal... So feel free to rapid fire some links to stories, it doesn't matter, they are the same stories, different day.

Energy is just in too much abundance for us not to figure out how to tap it without having to get it from rocks.

Biden is trimming the sails and you people are freaking out like its the end of the world.


That was a different time... we haven't even hit our oil peak yet.


I just get tired of posting sources each of the million times I have to explain things to working-class conservatives. The patterns are so familiar now, like the problem with your Newsweek article... Our discussion was about inflation adjusted income the Newsweek article isn't.

I mean... simple things, buzzy... there's income, there's inflation and there's inflation-adjusted income.


OK, well at least there's something to talk about. Just to be clear, my statement was that the only way to deflate is to cancel debt. I only used student debt as an example of an effort to try it. My theory about this is my own... It's under development and it's experimental...

1. Start with the axiom that you inflate the money supply by adding dollars...
2. Make the logical assumption that to reverse the process (deflate) you would need to take dollars out.
3. Add the fractional reserve banking rules that says they only need 10% of what they're going to loan and the rest can be printed out of thin air.
4. Therefore, during the early part of the term when you're paying more in interest than on principle, most of the debt is still made out of new money that has not actually been earned yet. It's real enough to create inflation, but no one has actually worked for it.
5. If this seems weird, it's because it's the Federal Reserve. This only plays out when the member banks are loaning the money. So it happens when the U.S. Treasury borrows the money from the Federal Reserve. When the federal government turns around and loans it to the student the rules change because now the federal government is loaning the money and they don't have that special power to make money out of thin air. Only the Federal Reserve does.

So if the federal government cancels the student debt, it's added to the deficit, then probably piled on the national debt and yes, the tax payers will have to pay for it. The bankers love that. They get all the money for free and the interest probably makes up for the 10% they needed in reserves.

If the federal government can negotiate a debt cancellation with the Federal Reserve... I believe we could deflate the money supply and return value to each dollar. The bankers in the Fed would be the ones eating the debt, but that money was never earned. If they can snap their fingers and make $30,000 appear out of thin air. They can snap their fingers and make $30,000 disappear and nothing earned will have been lost.

'Problem there is all the helicopter/yacht tycoons that LIKE all that new money in the economy, even at deflated values, because they own such large percentages of the total.


OK, wiseguy - here's why I think your trip about sources is BS. You use sources as a crutch, because you're not smart enough, or too lazy (I don't know which) to actually have this conversation with me using your own brain power. So you search for headlines that YOU think will provide smart answers to my challenges. I can tell because you don't actually make the slightest reference to the content... You don't summarize or explain anything about the article. When I use sources it's to provide a reference to what I am basing my argument on. You don't provide an argument. The ONLY thing you provide is a link to a headline that *seems* relevant.

Don't it personally, it's what I tell everyone that does that.


Oh, is that Dr. Seuss?

Oh, well shit... you know when and where he was born and died. What else is there to know, right? LOL


Are you saying that Alinsky is a land of fruits and nuts or can you just not write a sentence?


You were never ON Alinsky. All you know about him is that he born and he died and that right-wing retards like to say his name when talking about Obama because of something to do with community organization, which sounds like commie stuff. That is seriously the limit of your intellect.


Disillusion? LOL - Your goo-goo-gaa-gaa is about as effective at changing my understanding as a fly splattered on my windshield is effective at changing my direction.

Wipe.

That's because he didn't steal the White House. Your Daddy lost the election fair and square, Cupcake... He lost the popular vote by 8 million people because most Americans are disgusted by him and all his conspiracies to cheat failed too. The whole thing is hilarious because case after case, they keep failing to prove the election was stolen. The rest of us are just rolling our eyes... like, can we move on now?


It's funny when someone who is completely unable to explain something insults someone else for being clueless about it. LOL

Black people only account for 12% of our population. White people account for 60% so I highly doubt that there are more black racists than white racists... There's probably more white racists than black people. I'm also noticing how you capitalize "White" but not "black". Freudian slip?


Yeah, for you and all the other racists that have a mental problem with the idea of a black president.

Oh, we got it figured out... You're a sucker for propaganda. We can prove it too just by asking you to explain how Obama is pulling Bidens strings. We already know you can't answer that because you have no clue. It's just something you're parroting. Just like you parrot the name "Saul Alinsky" It's like something you just drop into a sentence to add flavor. My bet is that you never actually read anything Alinsky wrote.

I'm not not talking about the RATE of inflation... Look, you are responding to a conversation that started with me saying this...

Biden may have bragged about decreasing inflation but he was talking about the rate of inflation, not the amount of inflation. We could go to an inflation rate of 0% and we would not feel any better because the dollar is still devalued compared to a year ago... because there is still THAT many dollars in the economy. The ONLY way to bring the number of dollars back down and actually deflate, is to cancel debt.

What part of this confuses you? I'm not talking about the rate of inflation - I am talking about the amount of inflation... as in how much money is in the economy. A budget is NOT going to take dollars OUT of the economy.

I'm sure NBC will be fine with that, although they might wonder WTF there is to argue about. It's just a poll.


That still doesn't change the fact that it takes at least 10 years to develop a drill site. Biden has only been in office for a little over three years. Can you do the math from here? You folks are actually so retarded that you think Bidens refusal to lease federal land had such a quick impact that it actually caused the inflation that was already on the rise before Biden even stepped into office.


That's not debt cancellation. If the taxpayers are paying for the debt, it means the debt was never actually cancelled. It's not that complicated, buzzy. If the debt is cancelled it means the dollar is cancelled. Yes, someone takes a loss, the banks. Do you know what they are actually losing? Nothing, because fractional reserve banking gives the banks the right to loan 10 times more than they actually have by simply printing that money out of thin air. So if your printing money out of thin air and loaning to to someone, what are you actually losing if the debt is cancelled? Thin air!


And the average family of four under Trump made less money, adjusted for inflation than under Obama. In case you haven't noticed, this is a long standing trend.

And WTF do you expect the government to do about it anyway? Is the government in charge of our wages? Are we communists? The Democrats have tried to help with proposals like minimum wage, but the Republicans scream bloody murder whenever that happens. So again... it's a problem that Democrats are trying to figure out while the Republicans just sit on their assess complaining about how nothing the Democrats are doing is working.

Yeah, it's too bad because they wind up supporting the politicians that cater to their hangups and those politicians are screwing them big time knowing that they can't get past their uncontrollable hatred to see it.

I was in North Carolina when Obama was elected the first time and all I really noticed was how a lot of white folks lost their shit whenever they thought black people "lost their place". I was glad to get back to California... not that racism isn't an issue there too, but it doesn't seem as ingrained somehow.

Not just for Democrats, for ANYONE. And it's not forced on anyone either, it's still a choice that can be made by the would-be parents and their doctors.


Congress isn't trying to legislate abortion into law. They are trying to legislate a law that says the states can't legislate a law against it. YOU are the ones trying to force laws on the American family to ban abortion. Roe v Wade said it was unconstitutional to force these laws on us. And yes, Congress has the power to codify that decision and with a 2/3 majority it can even add that to the Constitution.


That's fine, because like I already explained, no one is trying to prescribe a national abortion regimen. That's just your over dramatic exaggeration. Once again... YOU are the tyrants trying to FORCE LAWS on us. We are not the one's doing that. We were fine with a court decision that said it was unconstitutional for YOU to FORCE these LAWS on us and now that's it's been overturned, there are all these LAWS being FORCED on us... by YOU! Not us! YOU!

So, get yer shit straight.


Is the right for the government to ban abortions on that enumerated list? No? Then why are you trying to FORCE LAWS to ban abortion on the American people if it's not an enumerated power? And how are you so confused that you think our attempts to STOP the government from FORCING these LAWS is a violation of a constitutional provision that actually limits the laws the government can make?

It's very simple... pro-choice is NOT asking for laws, they are asking for the FREEDOM to choice. It's YOUR side that is demanding laws to ban abortions in the state, laws to ban travel for pregnant women seeking abortions in other states. laws to punish doctors for having any affiliation with abortion providers. Again, we were fine with a court decision saying the government can't FORCE all these LAWS on us. But now that it's overturned, we are asking for ONE simple law. Here's how I would like that law to read...

The government shall not impose any laws on the American family to limit reproductive healthcare because that is NOT an enumerated power.


Whether you think they made the right decision or not doesn't change the fact that YOU are side FORCING all these LAWS on the American family. Personally, I'm OK with the state making this decision, but Texas is going too far with their new travel bans on women trying to leave the state to get an abortion elsewhere.


Then STOP trying to regulate it!


If the Constitution doesn't apply anymore, why are you using it to support your arguments? Seriously, why do you people say such idiot things?

And why would the Declaration of Independence "apply" anymore? We're already independent, we don't need to declare it anymore. The only thing that document applies to now is our history.


Such as?


The Constitution doesn't say anything about immigration. There are NO immigration laws in the Constitution. You morons keep bringing this up where you just flap you hand around and say "yeah, some law, somewhere"... You don't even know.

Biden didn't violate anything at the border. He is dealing with a massive influx of immigrants that our system can't handle, that's what the problem is. He didn't "open" the border either, Trump closed the border because he was told too. Title 42 says the border needs to be closed during a pandemic. When the pandemic was over the imposition was lifted automatically and Biden just happened to be in office by then.

If anything, we should be blaming Trump for slapping those sanctions on Venezuela which forced all those people to look for greener pastures. It's mostly his fault for creating the influx.


First of all, why do you racists keep referring to them as illegal immigrants of you're saying Biden is "letting them in" Immigration isn't illegal if the president allows it. So at least get your cruddy story straight.

Secondly, on a per-capita basis, immigrants are far less prone to crime than U.S. citizens are, so don't even give me that crap about how this is an invasion of people trying to kill us.


Biden did not cause the inflation to happen and I've explained this too many times on this site to people who have no clue what inflation is other than it's effect on our budgets and that you want to blame Biden for it.

The national debt has been increasing since the great recession... so every president since then has seen the "highest levels". As it is, Trump did more to push the debt to $34.97 than Biden did. Trump spent just as much AND he cut revenue with his idiot 2017 tax cut.


Yeah, I'm done. Obviously, you suffer from delusional anger. I don't know what it is in your personal life that makes you so bitter and so obsessed with blaming everything on Democrats, but I hope you figure it out.