payne1000

Here's the legitimate question you won't answer:

Why does the military need to train on private land and train their troops to blend in with the American civilian sector?

This type training would only be useful in military operations carried out against Americans. Regular troops do not wear civilian clothes in foreign operations. If they did they would be executed as spies.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep.
That is all they got.


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JMHO Loc: Utah

If you're paranoid enough to believe all these stories. I refuse to relent to paranoia. Maybe because I spent 22 years in the military, and have been involved in many military exercises. I've never seen one with this much paranoia, and I believe it is because of all the media coverage and the internet. The fringe conspiracy kooks now have the internet/youtube/Facebook/Twitter to spread their paranoia.

And, then to tie in 5 closed Wal mart stores, and spread rumors that they're going to use them as FEMA concentration camps...and shackles on trains, or vehicles, or some stupid thing...and armor vehicles on railroad cars heading to Texas...and...and....and...paranoia run amok.

I live in one of the areas that will be involved in the Jade Helm exercise, and I'll be one of the first to report any suspicious activity, if in fact there is any.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Payne,

You missed nothing as far as discussion goes..

Even our MSM has been commenting on Jade Helm

While the military seldom uses private land, it has been done a number of times.

Most of this operation will be conducted in remote areas of Colorado and Utah..

I do not think that anything was said about dressing in civvies for this operation, but not positive.

The map,--On Camp Pendleton, we did a few war games. Local maps were used and hand labeled with place names to denote enemy areas and allied areas. These were made up on the spot and some were amusing.. Maybe the DoD has a liberal who felt marking Texas as hostile was funny..

I think the only reason to watch this operation is the vast size of it.. We have a case of giving so much money to the pentagon and DoD, they have to find creative ways to spend it..

JMHO Loc: Utah

Don't know, I am not privy to their Operational Directives...but, I'm not going to get paranoid about it. The Military has used civilians and undercover before in military exercises...the Green Berets did a similar exercise several years ago on the East Coast, and the populace didn't get all paranoid about it.

Do you know anything about the military? Did you serve, and if so, in what capacity? I have served for 22 years and have been involved in many military exercises. What strikes me about this exercise, is that the terrain they are seeking...can't find anymore less populated diverse Middle East type of terrain such as this anywhere else in this country.

Stop and use some common sense. These troops and Commanders live in the same communities, shop in the same stores, go to the same schools, etc as we do. Many of their friends are civilians, their relatives are civilians, etc, so why do you think just because the upper command echelon is more liberal (because of Obama) that all the career types below (who have served under Bush, Clinton, etc) will follow lock step in rounding up Americans and locking them up in FEMA camps???? It's stupid!

JMHO Loc: Utah

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payne1000

You avoided explaining why some of the Jade Helm troops will be wearing civilian clothing and are being trained to blend in with the local populations.

Lt Col Lastoria even went so far as to explain that the troops in civilian clothing would be learning to note the differences in clothing worn in different parts of the U.S. Judging from the reaction of the Texans who attended the Bastrop Commissioners Court where Lastoria spoke, Texas is hostile territory.

JMHO Loc: Utah

Which is more than you have conspiracy nut.

JMHO Loc: Utah

So what? BFD!!!! They have done it before in military exercises!

payne1000

Your analysis fails because you consider Obama to be liberal.

Under Obama the Patriot Act was renewed, The NDAA act was signed,
covert operations and drone murders in the Middle East have escalated,
government whistleblowers have been persecuted even more than under Bush. Obama is not liberal. He's a puppet serving the same masters as Bush did.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Also;
There have been many reports of foreign troops training in the US, as well as foreign UN troops and its machinery.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

It's already been established that the Walmarts mentioned will be used as "launch centers" for this "exercise".
This was mentioned in a town hall meeting at one of those locations.

Easy there big boy....this is merely a discussion.
No need to go all "postal" on others who have different views and opinions on this matter than you may have.

Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon

With your year's of military service have you heard of an operation such as Jade Helm in the US before?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yep; The D's and R's just will not get it.


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JMHO Loc: Utah

You've lost it, pal...please check yourself into the nearest mental institute..all those signals your tin foil hat has intercepted has fried what brain cells you had left. Sheeessshhhh!