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May 5, 2015 15:54:57   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
KHH1 wrote:
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington's plan was basically to throw yourself at the mercy of the white man and prove your pwrth to them for acceptance...the same thing today'sblack con's do...at the expense of their race.

Two great leaders of the black community in the late 19th and 20th century were W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. However, they sharply disagreed on strategies for black social and economic progress. Their opposing philosophies can be found in much of today's discussions over how to end class and racial injustice, what is the role of black leadership, and what do the 'haves' owe the 'have-nots' in the black community.

Booker T. Washington, educator, reformer and the most influentional black leader of his time (1856-1915) preached a philosophy of self-help, racial solidarity and accomodation. He urged blacks to accept discrimination for the time being and concentrate on elevating themselves through hard work and material prosperity. He believed in education in the crafts, industrial and farming skills and the cultivation of the virtues of patience, enterprise and thrift. This, he said, would win the respect of whites and lead to African Americans being fully accepted as citizens and integrated into all strata of society.

W.E.B. Du Bois, a towering black intellectual, scholar and political thinker (1868-1963) said no--Washington's strategy would serve only to perpetuate white oppression. Du Bois advocated political action and a civil rights agenda (he helped found the NAACP). In addition, he argued that social change could be accomplished by developing the small group of college-educated blacks he called "the Talented Tenth:"


"The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education then, among Negroes, must first of all deal with the "Talented Tenth." It is the problem of developing the best of this race that they may guide the Mass away from the contamination and death of the worst."


At the time, the Washington/Du Bois dispute polarized African American leaders into two wings--the 'conservative' supporters of Washington and his 'radical' critics. The Du Bois philosophy of agitation and protest for civil rights flowed directly into the Civil Rights movement which began to develop in the 1950's and exploded in the 1960's. Booker T. today is associated, perhaps unfairly, with the self-help/colorblind/Republican/Clarence Thomas/Thomas Sowell wing of the black community and its leaders. The Nation of Islam and Maulana Karenga's Afrocentrism derive too from this strand out of Booker T.'s philosophy. However, the latter advocated withdrawal from the mainstream in the name of economic advancement.
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington... (show quote)


Du Bois was a communist you know. It takes no towering intellect to read and understand its precepts nor the results. As in Animal house, in the end, all animals are created equal and some animals are more equal than others. 262,000,000 died in the 20th Century because of communist philosophy. It is a very long time past the time of consigning such beliefs to the place they belong, the
ash heap of history.

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May 5, 2015 16:00:40   #
Ve'hoe
 
Perfect,,, cause kkkzero is certainly no intellect at all...

Mind numb and dumb,,,, all he needs is a t-shirt,,, and on the back can be "Pants up Don't Loot"


peter11937 wrote:
Du Bois was a communist you know. It takes no towering intellect to read and understand its precepts nor the results. As in Animal house, in the end, all animals are created equal and some animals are more equal than others. 262,000,000 died in the 20th Century because of communist philosophy. It is a very long time past the time of consigning such beliefs to the place they belong, the
ash heap of history.

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May 5, 2015 16:03:30   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Perfect,,, cause kkkzero is certainly no intellect at all...

Mind numb and dumb,,,, all he needs is a t-shirt,,, and on the back can be "Pants up Don't Loot"


:thumbup: :wink:

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May 5, 2015 17:28:10   #
lusitanean
 
Unfortunately one of the most damning things about and against our black brothers ans sisters is the fact that whenever they take over some town by sheer numbers and whites flee the lawlessness that usually follows, those cities and towns become unlivable for civilized people. The earliest and best example of this was New Jersey's jewel: Atlantic City. After this abomination numberless of usually prosperous cities and towns have been affected by the same disease. And litle by little more and more towns are suffering the same fate. The slow death of a civilized nation. And who defends all this destruction? Think about it. The "liberals". The commies under cover. The enemy within. And the more I think about it, the more convinced I am that this is not a theory of mine. Destroy everything. Industrial complexes that produce wealth, the engine that made made this country the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world. Destroy the families, the cohesion that keeps nations stable and civilized. Every single value necessary for a happy and orderly life.
Political correctness: the weapon our domestic enemies invented to attain thei foul, perverted, sick, treasonous ends.

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May 5, 2015 18:22:01   #
1OldGeezer
 
KHH1 wrote:
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington's plan was basically to throw yourself at the mercy of the white man and prove your pwrth to them for acceptance...the same thing today'sblack con's do...at the expense of their race.

Two great leaders of the black community in the late 19th and 20th century were W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. However, they sharply disagreed on strategies for black social and economic progress. Their opposing philosophies can be found in much of today's discussions over how to end class and racial injustice, what is the role of black leadership, and what do the 'haves' owe the 'have-nots' in the black community.

Booker T. Washington, educator, reformer and the most influentional black leader of his time (1856-1915) preached a philosophy of self-help, racial solidarity and accomodation. He urged blacks to accept discrimination for the time being and concentrate on elevating themselves through hard work and material prosperity. He believed in education in the crafts, industrial and farming skills and the cultivation of the virtues of patience, enterprise and thrift. This, he said, would win the respect of whites and lead to African Americans being fully accepted as citizens and integrated into all strata of society.

W.E.B. Du Bois, a towering black intellectual, scholar and political thinker (1868-1963) said no--Washington's strategy would serve only to perpetuate white oppression. Du Bois advocated political action and a civil rights agenda (he helped found the NAACP). In addition, he argued that social change could be accomplished by developing the small group of college-educated blacks he called "the Talented Tenth:"


"The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education then, among Negroes, must first of all deal with the "Talented Tenth." It is the problem of developing the best of this race that they may guide the Mass away from the contamination and death of the worst."


At the time, the Washington/Du Bois dispute polarized African American leaders into two wings--the 'conservative' supporters of Washington and his 'radical' critics. The Du Bois philosophy of agitation and protest for civil rights flowed directly into the Civil Rights movement which began to develop in the 1950's and exploded in the 1960's. Booker T. today is associated, perhaps unfairly, with the self-help/colorblind/Republican/Clarence Thomas/Thomas Sowell wing of the black community and its leaders. The Nation of Islam and Maulana Karenga's Afrocentrism derive too from this strand out of Booker T.'s philosophy. However, the latter advocated withdrawal from the mainstream in the name of economic advancement.
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington... (show quote)


KHH!,

Come back to earth where it is at.....

Your Post..."The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men".

Is Al Sharpton one of those exceptional men you mean? How about Jesse Jackson? ...AND...It seems that many blacks aren't really paying attention to another great man; Martin Luther King and his non violent methods of protesting.

Just an opinion of mine, But that black mom in Baltimore saving her teenage son, and people like her with common sense and decency will play a very large part in "saving" the black race; she was not even a man and probably not a lot of formal education. I admire the woman. She, and people like her, are the salvation of the black race (or the human race for that matter).

1oldgeezer

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May 5, 2015 18:43:24   #
KHH1
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
KHH!,

Come back to earth where it is at.....

Your Post..."The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men".

Is Al Sharpton one of those exceptional men you mean? How about Jesse Jackson? ...AND...It seems that many blacks aren't really paying attention to another great man; Martin Luther King and his non violent methods of protesting.

Just an opinion of mine, But that black mom in Baltimore saving her teenage son, and people like her with common sense and decency will play a very large part in "saving" the black race; she was not even a man and probably not a lot of formal education. I admire the woman. She, and people like her, are the salvation of the black race (or the human race for that matter).

1oldgeezer
KHH!, br br Come back to earth where it is at....... (show quote)


Whoever they are that is for black people to determine and whites like you righties to not be concerned with...because you all could give a shit less about blacks..and blacks could give a shit less about righties.........

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May 5, 2015 20:26:09   #
vernon
 
KHH1 wrote:
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington's plan was basically to throw yourself at the mercy of the white man and prove your pwrth to them for acceptance...the same thing today'sblack con's do...at the expense of their race.

Two great leaders of the black community in the late 19th and 20th century were W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. However, they sharply disagreed on strategies for black social and economic progress. Their opposing philosophies can be found in much of today's discussions over how to end class and racial injustice, what is the role of black leadership, and what do the 'haves' owe the 'have-nots' in the black community.

Booker T. Washington, educator, reformer and the most influentional black leader of his time (1856-1915) preached a philosophy of self-help, racial solidarity and accomodation. He urged blacks to accept discrimination for the time being and concentrate on elevating themselves through hard work and material prosperity. He believed in education in the crafts, industrial and farming skills and the cultivation of the virtues of patience, enterprise and thrift. This, he said, would win the respect of whites and lead to African Americans being fully accepted as citizens and integrated into all strata of society.

W.E.B. Du Bois, a towering black intellectual, scholar and political thinker (1868-1963) said no--Washington's strategy would serve only to perpetuate white oppression. Du Bois advocated political action and a civil rights agenda (he helped found the NAACP). In addition, he argued that social change could be accomplished by developing the small group of college-educated blacks he called "the Talented Tenth:"


"The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men. The problem of education then, among Negroes, must first of all deal with the "Talented Tenth." It is the problem of developing the best of this race that they may guide the Mass away from the contamination and death of the worst."


At the time, the Washington/Du Bois dispute polarized African American leaders into two wings--the 'conservative' supporters of Washington and his 'radical' critics. The Du Bois philosophy of agitation and protest for civil rights flowed directly into the Civil Rights movement which began to develop in the 1950's and exploded in the 1960's. Booker T. today is associated, perhaps unfairly, with the self-help/colorblind/Republican/Clarence Thomas/Thomas Sowell wing of the black community and its leaders. The Nation of Islam and Maulana Karenga's Afrocentrism derive too from this strand out of Booker T.'s philosophy. However, the latter advocated withdrawal from the mainstream in the name of economic advancement.
**I tend to agree with W.E.B. Dubois....Washington... (show quote)


ah dubois the the communist hater of all things white in fact he hated us and this country so much he demanded to be buried in guiana,i think.
i dont understand why they didnt throw he dead ass in a garbage can or better yet feed him to the hogs.

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May 5, 2015 20:28:56   #
vernon
 
KHH1 wrote:
Whoever they are that is for black people to determine and whites like you righties to not be concerned with...because you all could give a shit less about blacks..and blacks could give a shit less about righties.........



yea you finally told the truth you racist sob.

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May 5, 2015 21:09:58   #
KHH1
 
vernon wrote:
ah dubois the the communist hater of all things white in fact he hated us and this country so much he demanded to be buried in guiana,i think.
i dont understand why they didnt throw he dead ass in a garbage can or better yet feed him to the hogs.


SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT ABOUT ISIS AND WHITES...TO EACH HIS OWN IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO THINK HUH?

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May 5, 2015 23:08:03   #
vernon
 
KHH1 wrote:
SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT ABOUT ISIS AND WHITES...TO EACH HIS OWN IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO THINK HUH?


well i know you say it about whites but just remember we get killed off and you starve.

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May 5, 2015 23:10:28   #
vernon
 
1OldGeezer wrote:
KHH!,

Come back to earth where it is at.....

Your Post..."The Negro Race, like all races, is going to be saved by its exceptional men".

Is Al Sharpton one of those exceptional men you mean? How about Jesse Jackson? ...AND...It seems that many blacks aren't really paying attention to another great man; Martin Luther King and his non violent methods of protesting.

Just an opinion of mine, But that black mom in Baltimore saving her teenage son, and people like her with common sense and decency will play a very large part in "saving" the black race; she was not even a man and probably not a lot of formal education. I admire the woman. She, and people like her, are the salvation of the black race (or the human race for that matter).

1oldgeezer
KHH!, br br Come back to earth where it is at....... (show quote)


old al sharpton is the best they got.

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May 6, 2015 03:13:47   #
KHH1
 
vernon wrote:
yea you finally told the truth you racist sob.


I've been saying that...if terrorists crossed the border they probably can pick righties out of the crowd.....look how in the phuck you all talk about blacks..and you're all just average people...many below average....do you think people will be fond of you all after the racist shit you spew?

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May 6, 2015 07:09:53   #
1OldGeezer
 
KHH1 wrote:
Whoever they are that is for black people to determine and whites like you righties to not be concerned with...because you all could give a shit less about blacks..and blacks could give a shit less about righties.........


KHH1,

The evidence shows that you (blacks?) are not doing a very good job at picking who your leaders are. You definitely could use some help for your own good. You sound like you don't want to be considered an American along with the rest of us.(??) (BTW, When someone tells you that you really have a serious emotional problem, Listen to 'em)

P. S.....I "give a shit" about all true AMERICANS (black, white, yellow, brown, red, or green) who have the best interests of this country at heart. Though, It is hard for me to "give a shit" about those of any color who feel justified in burning and looting and shooting cops.

1oldgeezer

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May 6, 2015 08:24:51   #
Ve'hoe
 
AHHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

White people care about Blacks,, more than Blacks do,,, and THAT is A problem.. not THE problem.

If whites were like you claim, you would be dead.

But in reality, black population is less than 18% of society,,, thanks to imbeciles like you....the incarceration rate for African American males is 3,045 out of 100,000 compared to 465 per 100,000 White Americans males.

Black males make up 6% of the population,,, and 50% of the incarcerated persons.....


Number one cause of death for black males is other black males. According to the CDC, homicide was indeed the No. 1 killer of black men between the ages of 15 and 34 in 2011. Accidents ranked second in causes of death, and suicide claimed the third amount of black male lives between 15 and 24 years old, while heart disease ranked third for men 24-34.


So,,, if you say "Black Lives Matter" then I guess I wonder "To Whom??" Certainly NOT to other black men... were it not for whites you would likely be dead long ago....at that rate, were it not for white intervention, you would have disappeared,,, gone extinct.

Fortunately, I have met real Educated and Cultured Black men and women in the military,,,, who completely debunk you very false and flawed contentions about black and white society.,,,

Nobody needs to keep you down, you and idiots like you, don't need any help..




KHH1 wrote:
Whoever they are that is for black people to determine and whites like you righties to not be concerned with...because you all could give a shit less about blacks..and blacks could give a shit less about righties.........

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May 6, 2015 08:26:46   #
Ve'hoe
 
Then if racist sh-t is so terrible,, why do YOU do it???


KHH1 wrote:
I've been saying that...if terrorists crossed the border they probably can pick righties out of the crowd.....look how in the phuck you all talk about blacks..and you're all just average people...many below average....do you think people will be fond of you all after the racist shit you spew?

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