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May 1, 2015 22:59:26   #
KHH1
 
Blacksheep wrote:
Niggers do and we all know it.

Oompah! Oompah!


So I have reduced you to a child that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over until they finally aggravate the parent I see.....I guess there is only one thing worse than an educated black is one who does not fit that angry stereotype...even Obama went and got an anger translator...smart guy....can't reate to the term nigger although there are plenty of people YOU would not say that to IN PERSON..that I am sure of...see? no shit talk on my part.....you all are confirming what I have stated all along...the old bait and switch...this fish is not biting...so you can say nigger until you put yourself into a coma if you like.....i'm kool...........

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May 1, 2015 23:03:00   #
KHH1
 
KHH1 wrote:
Look up serial killers and rapists and molesters and see who owns those categories.......


**Do the research...you already know what it is...........**

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May 1, 2015 23:19:18   #
Blacksheep
 
KHH1 wrote:
So I have reduced you to a child that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over until they finally aggravate the parent I see.....I guess there is only one thing worse than an educated black is one who does not fit that angry stereotype...even Obama went and got an anger translator...smart guy....can't reate to the term nigger although there are plenty of people YOU would not say that to IN PERSON..that I am sure of...see? no shit talk on my part.....you all are confirming what I have stated all along...the old bait and switch...this fish is not biting...so you can say nigger until you put yourself into a coma if you like.....i'm kool...........
So I have reduced you to a child that does the sam... (show quote)


Oompah! Oompah!

Cry, baby, cry.
Cry, baby, cry....

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May 1, 2015 23:19:32   #
Blacksheep
 
KHH1 wrote:
**Do the research...you already know what it is...........**


Oompah! Oompah!

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May 2, 2015 07:49:47   #
1OldGeezer
 
KHH1 wrote:
By N. D. B. CONNOLLYMAY 1, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/opinion/black-culture-is-not-the-problem.html?emc=edit_tnt_20150501&nlid=51247735&tntemail0=y&_r=0

BALTIMORE — IN the wake of the Michael Brown shooting and subsequent unrest in Ferguson, Mo., commentators noted the absence of black representatives among Ferguson’s elected officials and its police leadership. A Department of Justice report highlighted how Ferguson’s mostly white City Council and its courts spurred on explicitly racist policing, in part to harvest fines from black residents.

Then came Baltimore. The death of Freddie Gray, like those of Eric Garner, John Crawford III, Rekia Boyd and so many other unarmed African-Americans, at first seemed to fit the all-too-familiar template — white cops, black suspect, black corpse.

But unlike New York, Chicago and other cities with white leaders, Baltimore has a black mayor, a black police commissioner and a majority-black City Council. Yet the city still has one of the most stained records of police brutality in recent years.

In the absence of a perceptible “white power structure,” the discussion around Baltimore has quickly turned to one about the failings of black culture. This confuses even those who sympathize with black hardship. When people took to the streets and destroyed property, most observers did not see an understandable social response to apparent state inaction. They saw, in the words of Baltimore’s mayor, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, “thugs,” or in the words of President Obama, “criminals and thugs.”

To be fair, the mayor later expressed regret, and both she and the president have tried to show empathy for the dispossessed. But they are also fighting myths about degenerate black culture. Condemning “criminals” and “thugs” seems to get them away from beliefs about broad black inferiority.

Yet when black people of influence make these arguments, it prevents us from questioning Baltimore the way we questioned Ferguson.

Instead, we lionize people like Toya Graham, the Baltimore mother who went upside the head of her rioting son. Baltimore’s police commissioner, Anthony W. Batts, applauded her, pleading with parents to “take control of your kids.” But the footage certainly affirms violence as the best way to get wayward black people under control.

Moreover, by treating a moment of black-on-black violence as a bright spot, we take our eye off the circumstances that created the event. We forget, for instance, about how officials, in their fear of black youth, issued what witnesses said was a pre-emptive riot-police blockade hemming in students around Mondawmin Mall, where looting erupted.

The problem is not black culture. It is policy and politics, the very things that bind together the history of Ferguson and Baltimore and, for that matter, the rest of America.

Specifically, the problem rests on the continued profitability of racism. Freddie Gray’s exposure to lead paint as a child, his suspected participation in the drug trade, and the relative confinement of black unrest to black communities during this week’s riot are all features of a city and a country that still segregate people along racial lines, to the financial enrichment of landlords, corner store merchants and other vendors selling second-rate goods.

The problem originates in a political culture that has long bound black bodies to questions of property. Yes, I’m referring to slavery.

Slavery was not so much a labor system as it was a property regime, with slaves serving not just as workers, but as commodities. Back in the day, people routinely borrowed against other human beings. They took out mortgages on them. As a commodity, the slave had a value that the state was bound to protect.

Now housing and commercial real estate have come to occupy the heart of America’s property regime, replacing slavery. And damage to real estate, far more than damage to ostensibly free black people, tends to evoke swift responses from the state. What we do not prosecute nearly well enough, however, is the daily assault on black people’s lives through the slow, willful destruction of real estate within black communities. The conditions in West Baltimore today are the direct consequence of speculative real estate practices that have long targeted people with few to no options.
On the heels of any ghetto economy based on extraction comes the excessive policing necessary to keep everyone in place. Cities that are starved for income have found ways to raise revenues by way of fines and fees exacted from poor, underemployed African-Americans and migrants of color. These include property taxes and court costs. In Maryland, in particular, these come in lieu of property taxes that many of the state’s largest employers are not required to pay. The dangers of tax burdens and other unseen costs are as deadly to urban households as police brutality or fires set by “thugs.”

In “The Wire,” Lester Freamon understood that following the money took our eyes off the street and up the chain of real political power. We have a right to expect that our administrators will use the bully pulpit to speak about the policies, systems and structures over which they preside.

By avoiding the language of individual failings and degenerate culture, political leaders, black and otherwise, can help us all see the daily violence of poverty. More, they can better use the power they have to do something about it. By calling a nationwide “state of emergency” on the problem of residential segregation, by devising a fairer tax structure, by investing in public space, community policing, tenants’ rights and a government jobs program, our leaders can find a way forward.

N. D. B. Connolly is an assistant professor of history at Johns Hopkins University and the author of “A World More Concrete: Real Estate and the Remaking of Jim Crow South Florida.”
By N. D. B. CONNOLLYMAY 1, 2015 br br http://www... (show quote)


KHH1,

True, it is not a black culture problem per se, it is a LIBERAL culture problem, which affects the black population mostly because they are the target group politically.

The problem will not be solved by the Federal government's actions unless you consider the "cessation of actions" by the government as an "action" by the government. They need to stop the policies that are causing/creating/fostering this class of "victims" for political purposes.

This "culture" problem can be solved by individuals who want it solved. An example is the Mama who took it upon herself to try to save her son from committing illegal acts that night in Baltimore. I admire the woman. There are many blacks like that woman, they are the salvation of this country, not more centrally controlled government dependency programs.

You may notice that there is a common thread running through the last three national "incidents". Live a life of crime/violence, disrespect for the law; it will eventually catch up with you and it will not end well. I think the legal action of arresting the six officers was the right thing to do as now the facts will come out with witnesses under oath in a public trial and the guilty will most likely be punished by their peers if warranted. That is what all us should want, punished if guilty regardless of the color involved.

Maybe some of us can now see that it is at least as much about behavior (call it culture if you must) as it is about color? At least we have a better chance of curing the problem if we recognize the problem for what it is.

1oldgeezer

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May 2, 2015 07:57:21   #
Ve'hoe
 
Regardless, how you try to explain a lie, it doesnt make it the truth.

After your racist comments and your bigoted rants, the idea that you can even find the "high road" is laughable.

The high road, for you, is to apologize sincerely for your racist and inflammatory language, lies, and offenses,,, then "hope" people forgive you.

If you can accomplish that, I will be impressed, but I doubt that is in you, from previous interactions.

Still, no one is under any requirement to accept your apologies, for your offensive behavior. That is what you do, in these purported "peecefull protessin" events,,, you choose not to forgive anyone elses mistakes, yet demand yours just be overlooked or ignored..

Sorry, everyone else has rights too,,, as a fellow minority, your skin color, buys you nothing...and you think it does.

KHH1 wrote:
I see I am trying to take the high road after even explaining my thing about white and black conservatives as opposed to whites or blacks generally...you choose to ignore my statements and draw your own conclusions because you would like me to truly be racist and hateful so it could justify your own hatred and vile nature....same with vehoe...i'll post this to him also.....everyone in here is seeing how i am trying to take the high road but a couple of you just keep trying to antagonize so i will "respond in kind"......but i'm not...i'm kool.......
I see I am trying to take the high road after even... (show quote)

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May 2, 2015 08:01:40   #
Ve'hoe
 
Seems, if you were actually an educated black man ,, or even educated at all, that you would notice that you racially charge a situation, then wonder why get racist results.

I was just talking to you, you took offense and went racist and bigoted,,,,

What was the reason that it is OK for you, and objectionable in others...

And you were NOT responding in kind, because I never said anything racial to you... besides, like you leftists laid out, a minority has no power over you, therefore I cant racist.....

Why do YOU do it, if it is so offensive...

KHH1 wrote:
So I have reduced you to a child that does the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over until they finally aggravate the parent I see.....I guess there is only one thing worse than an educated black is one who does not fit that angry stereotype...even Obama went and got an anger translator...smart guy....can't reate to the term nigger although there are plenty of people YOU would not say that to IN PERSON..that I am sure of...see? no shit talk on my part.....you all are confirming what I have stated all along...the old bait and switch...this fish is not biting...so you can say nigger until you put yourself into a coma if you like.....i'm kool...........
So I have reduced you to a child that does the sam... (show quote)

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May 2, 2015 08:05:22   #
Ve'hoe
 
Beg to differ,,,


The same socio-economic circumstances exist on the reservations,,,,, but we dont burn each other out, kill and maim, and then blame the white man. Our skin color, does not make, nor allow us, to act like violent animals, to each other, or the government, or population at large,, that is the black culture lie,,,

The first part is correct though, leftism, festers into violence and crime, for those too stupid to resist its lure of freebies,, on them.



1OldGeezer wrote:
KHH1,

True, it is not a black culture problem per se, it is a LIBERAL culture problem, which affects the black population mostly because they are the target group politically.

The problem will not be solved by the Federal government's actions unless you consider the "cessation of actions" by the government as an "action" by the government. They need to stop the policies that are causing/creating/fostering this class of "victims" for political purposes.

This "culture" problem can be solved by individuals who want it solved. An example is the Mama who took it upon herself to try to save her son from committing illegal acts that night in Baltimore. I admire the woman. There are many blacks like that woman, they are the salvation of this country, not more centrally controlled government dependency programs.

You may notice that there is a common thread running through the last three national "incidents". Live a life of crime/violence, disrespect for the law; it will eventually catch up with you and it will not end well. I think the legal action of arresting the six officers was the right thing to do as now the facts will come out with witnesses under oath in a public trial and the guilty will most likely be punished by their peers if warranted. That is what all us should want, punished if guilty regardless of the color involved.

Maybe some of us can now see that it is at least as much about behavior (call it culture if you must) as it is about color? At least we have a better chance of curing the problem if we recognize the problem for what it is.

1oldgeezer
KHH1, br br True, it is not a black culture probl... (show quote)

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May 2, 2015 08:31:18   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
**research the economic and psychological residue from slavery...and since you blame it on blacks, why were whites not honorable and refuse to maintain the institution itself? don't answer because it will be negative...like you people are.......









Do you know how many whites sacrificed their own lives during the Civil War to help abolish slavery in America, comrade???

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May 2, 2015 08:50:33   #
astrolite
 
Olden McGroen wrote:
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You're a typical leftist liberal that preaches tolerance and diversity ONLY if it goes one way.

Opposition to your viewpoint does not equal racism or even negativity. Leftists only believe in free speech if you agree with them and their viewpoint. Otherwise, you are shouted down, vilified, excoriated, mocked and dismissed.

Look dude, if you want to be the head majorette for "the parade of victims" that's your choice. And it certainly appears to be the case. But don't complain when others don't see things your way.

Anyone with an ounce of integrity and half a brain knows what the problem in the black community is. You can blame it on all of these other things all you want, but honest people know the truth. And it most certainly IS the culture in the black community that is holding them back.

In spite of what you think you know or believe, Whitey (conservative whites) doesn't want Blacky (Democrat slaves) to fail. Whitey wants blacky to prosper like anyone else that is willing to work for it. Whitey doesn't hate blacky or lezzy or any other group that the Left has dissected us into and pitted against one another.

1. 22 Trillion has been pumped into the War on Poverty since 1964, and guess what? The percentage of people living below the poverty line is the same today as it was then. Hmmmmmm?
2. Is it Whitey's fault Blacky commits so many crimes?
3. Is it Whitey's fault that the crime rate is so high in Blackytown that they have a much higher police presence...therefore, Blacky is more likely to get caught?
3. Is it Whitey's fault that blacky has a disproportionate drop-out rate in school? They keep dumbing down the curriculum year after year but it doesn't seem to help.
4. Is it Whitey's fault blacky kills blacky at an alarming rate?
5. Is it Whitey's fault that 70%+ of births in the blacky community are to single unwed mothers? The terms "baby mama" and "baby daddy" shouldn't exist as common place.
6. Is it Whitey's fault that urban houses and businesses have bars on the windows? Who are they trying to keep out? Whitey?

I could go on and on. We're supposed to pretend that none of these things exist, but rather clasp our hands together, shake our heads and empathize the most unfortunate circumstance of the victimized blacky.

Whitey doesn't hate. Whitey's keeping it real. Reality sucks sometimes, but ignoring it and pretending it doesn't exist doesn't make it better. And so it never does....get better. 50 years from now, it'll be the same story. Blacky the victim whining about Whitey the oppressor. C'mon blacky, you're better than that man. It's not that hard to fix. You could single-handedly turn the whole thing around if you'd just reverse 1. thru 6. Hell, just read the Ten Commandments and do that!!! If you'd just do that you'd be golden!!!

Awwww, was I being too real, I mean, negative?
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You forgot AFRICA, a wholly BLACK continent!!! And the crime rates are worse than in the ghettos here! But they have no whiteys to blame! They wasted the civilization whitey built! And the UN liberals ordered the whiteys to give over the governments to the BLACKS......now they are almost back to the caves! (But.....again look at the Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica, Trinidad, Etc??)

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May 2, 2015 09:45:23   #
chuckybrass
 
Educated accomplished blacks have deservedly built their own identities, and have a feeling of self worth. They are respected for their accomplishments, and accepted by society in general.

Lower class blacks have convinced themselves, with the help of liberal politicians and the media, that the whole country is going to now recognize, respect, and celebrate them because they are black. Their teachers and affirmative action have taught them that everyone is going to give them a free pass in all the want, or else. Problem is, no decent hard working American recognizes them as anything but a fly in the ointment, and there is nothing to respect. Most of them are very angry because they don't understand, nor do they care to understand. They are like a bunch of spoiled little children throwing a very expensive temper tantrum. While I understand this mentality, I can no longer accept it, or cater to it.

They are exactly where they are because of their inaction, and most have thrown away more opportunities than the average white has in a lifetime! I have watched them being given job preferences, training/schooling preferences, testing on a curve, and it continues the saga by making them softer.

In over fifty years, we have continued to push them in the swing, and the longer we do, the more they expect the push. For this reason, many still cannot swing on their own, and think being pushed is a way of life. I am old, and tired of pushing. If you can't get the swing started on your own, you can continue to sit there in the damned thing. I no longer care. However, if you think retribution is the answer, you can try to burn my house or you may try to burn my business --- I will be there to dispatch you to your maker and God as my witness I will shoot you deader than Hell to defend my family and my property. My objective will not necessarily be survival, but to make sure I take as many of the perpetrators with me as I can for the betterment of my children and my fellow man.

It is good to live in a conceal/carry state --- something that New Yorkers, Marylanders, and other major black strongholds don't enjoy --- hmmm, maybe that's why they feel safe burning things in those towns........

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May 2, 2015 09:52:30   #
Blacksheep
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Seems, if you were actually an educated black man ,, or even educated at all, that you would notice that you racially charge a situation, then wonder why get racist results.

I was just talking to you, you took offense and went racist and bigoted,,,,

What was the reason that it is OK for you, and objectionable in others...

And you were NOT responding in kind, because I never said anything racial to you... besides, like you leftists laid out, a minority has no power over you, therefore I cant racist.....

Why do YOU do it, if it is so offensive...
Seems, if you were actually an educated black man ... (show quote)


He, she or It is just too easy. It loves to spew hateful racial slander at white people so obviously doing the same back, with hateful black slander, would start her/it raving. What fun. :lol:

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May 2, 2015 10:01:44   #
Blacksheep
 
astrolite wrote:
You forgot AFRICA, a wholly BLACK continent!!! And the crime rates are worse than in the ghettos here! But they have no whiteys to blame! They wasted the civilization whitey built! And the UN liberals ordered the whiteys to give over the governments to the BLACKS......now they are almost back to the caves! (But.....again look at the Bahamas, Haiti, Jamaica, Trinidad, Etc??)


And while you're at it, check out the Virgin Islands, run by a black felon, swarming with lawless blacks and Jamaican drug operations and where the few cruise ships that do stop by Charlotte Amalie will only allow their passengers off for 2 hours to shop right at the pier, and then sail before dark. Talk about blacks destroying a Paradise.

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May 2, 2015 11:09:26   #
Radiance3
 
Loki wrote:
You have once again managed to skirt the truth of the slavery question, which is that slavery existed in Africa for thousands of years before the first white man ever set foot there.
You have completely ignored the fact that almost every slave brought to North America from Africa had already been enslaved by other blacks.
You have completely avoided addressing the fact that if there had been no black slavers, there would have been no black slaves in this country, and blacks continued to enslave each other for a hundred years after whites outlawed the practice.
Fred Grays' "suspected" participation in the drug trade?

Permit me to regale you with his rap sheet.

March 20, 2015: Possession of a Controlled Dangerous Substance
March 13, 2015: Malicious destruction of property, second-degree assault
January 20, 2015: Fourth-degree burglary, trespassing
January 14, 2015: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute
December 31, 2014: Possession of narcotics with intent to distribute
December 14, 2014: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 31, 2014: Illegal gambling, trespassing
January 25, 2014: Possession of marijuana
September 28, 2013: Distribution of narcotics, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, second-degree assault, second-degree escape
April 13, 2012: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, violation of probation
July 16, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession with intent to distribute
March 28, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
March 14, 2008: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to manufacture and distribute
February 11, 2008: Unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance, possession of a controlled dangerous substance
August 29, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, violation of probation
August 28, 2007: Possession of marijuana
August 23, 2007: False statement to a peace officer, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance
July 16, 2007: Possession of a controlled dangerous substance with intent to distribute, unlawful possession of a controlled dangerous substance (2 counts)

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/freddiegray.asp#PfUQ9GR4EpFVSpMg.99


Yep. Burn your own neighborhood down. Destroy black-owned businesses. That'll show whitey!
You have once again managed to skirt the truth of ... (show quote)

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Blacks always blame "race" as the root causes of their behavior and violence their kids create.

But the fact of the matter is, I think they should be thankful that they were sold and brought to the West. Because the black Muslims who sold them to other countries like the Middle East, the black slaves are killed when they get old and useless. Until now the Muslims in the Middle East are treating their slaves like this. No one complains about that.

Here in America, they are shared the freedom and honor that this country was founded upon by Christian Founders.
Here in America so many of them succeeded and reached the peak of their potentials. I don't see discrimination against them. I think what we have now is reverse discrimination!

In fact we have a black president, and so many elected black leaders. Baltimore is now lead by majority of black leaders and politicians. But why is it that they still blame white culture? They have all the power to make changes. But I think the power they have are misplaced, rather they put ahead their own political ambitions and not the welfare of the people they lead. E.g. Baltimore.

It is always someone else's fault when their people commit crimes. They will never accept or identify the root causes of the behavior of their children. Rather they blame to the white race discriminations, white police brutalities, and lack of jobs and employment.

I think in order to solve their problems, they must:
1. Recognize that more than 72% of these children are born out of wedlock. No father to guide and discipline.

2. They must recognize that if their children don't acquire education, then it would be very difficult to get a gainful employment. Despite of the fact that Baltimore spends $17,329 per school child each year. It is 2nd highest funded school per child annually.

Other schools are getting only average about $13,000. But still the blacks in Baltimore complain that they need more tax money to fund their education, and to create jobs for them.

Why is it that most democrat states have the highest unemployment rate and especially for the black population?

Most of the Republican states have lower unemployment rate, and the schools are funded a lot lower just in par with many other schools. But they don't have riots and violence that destroys lives and properties of innocent people making an earnest living. Those violence happens only in Democrat states. They ruin and burn the cities they live and then demand again from taxpayers to fund and rebuild.

Please don't call me racist because I am just trying to identify facts in order to provide a better solution for the good of all.

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May 2, 2015 11:25:33   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
KHH1 wrote:
I am focusing on the positive.....I am not even going to go into the pathological/psychological things that ills whites.....i'll let you rail on and on about blacks..who have every right to be angry...when SOME whites talk about militias and another civil/race war from just losing elections....


KHH1-I am more interested in getting the problem solved as opposed to who is right. There is significant disagreement among black leaders. Some say Baltimore needs more programs to help black kids. Others say it originates in the family. One man said, "throwing money at a fatherless family with 3 or 4 children will not solve the problem. Money cannot discipline children. " Many, including me, have applauded the lady who slapped her 16 yr old son around and made him take his mask off. Conversely, one young black female PHD viewed it as child abuse. How do we solve the problem in an equitable way ? Good Luck America !!!

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