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Apr 5, 2015 20:35:34   #
vernon
 
okie don wrote:
Writer phillip weiss touched on this issue of the Palistanians being the true Judians and mentions the Khazars, which may have beeno
Mongals


the so called palistanians are arabs there were no palastanians the media gave them that name.

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Apr 5, 2015 21:07:21   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
jelun wrote:
I have not knowingly read any information provided by Hamas and only minimally from Palestinians.
I count many Jews among my friends. Israel is not Jews. Jews are not Israel.
I don't forget an Israeli bulldozer running over an American woman, though.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/16/international/16WIRE-MIDE.html


According to B'Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, 500 Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinians from September 29, 2000 to March 31, 2012 in Israel, and another 254 Israeli civilians were killed in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.[94]

Bear in mind, once more, Israel goes out of it's way to avoid civilian casualties, and the Palestinians go out of their way to cause them.

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Apr 5, 2015 21:44:35   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Loki wrote:
According to B'Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, 500 Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinians from September 29, 2000 to March 31, 2012 in Israel, and another 254 Israeli civilians were killed in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.[94]

Bear in mind, once more, Israel goes out of its way to avoid civilian casualties, and the Palestinians go out of their way to cause them.


He is incapable of conceiving or wanting factual information. It doesn't fit his preconceived narratives. He is an Israeli basher and pro-Hamas regardless of what he tries to make one believe to the contrary.

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Apr 5, 2015 21:51:26   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
okie don wrote:
I'm nearing 77 now and have really dug since I retired 14 yrs ago. There's just so much misinformation we've been fed. Eg
Columbus did not 'discover America' the vikings did...
There were people here before the Vikings came. The Chinese were on the west coast around 1100 ad. Not many believe this but it is true -the Ainu of Japan are understood and can be conversed with by Miluk speaking people of the Coquille Indian tribe.

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Apr 5, 2015 23:02:08   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
There were people here before the Vikings came. The Chinese were on the west coast around 1100 ad. Not many believe this but i
t is true -the Ainu of Japan are understood and can be conversed with by Miluk speaking people of the Coquille Indian tribe.


There were people who came to South America before that. By the way, there were Irish and French fishermen fishing off the Grand Banks as early as 900-1000 AD. The remains of a semi-permanent camp dating to this period have been found and excavated at Damariscove, MA, near Boston. If you look at it, it is not that far from Europe to North America, by the old sailing routes. The British Isles to either the Faroes or straight through to Iceland, a week or ten days. Iceland to Greenland, a week. Greenland to North America, another week. The fishermen would fish off the Banks, then sail to North America to salt and dry their catch for the voyage back to Europe. It has even been theorized, although not conclusively proven, that Europeans visited North America as far back as the Ice Age. There was an Ice Bridge stretching from Europe all the way to North America, and artifacts of seeming European origin have been found here, and in Northern Europe dating from about 12000 BC. It has also been theorized, also never proven, that the ancient Phoenecians sailed to North America. They certainly visited Britain, and they had ships capable of making the voyage, to North America,but no one knows.
The Chinese are said to have reached the coast of California as early as 500 AD. Generally, among seafaring people, they have poked around a lot more than most people realize.

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Apr 6, 2015 00:22:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Loki wrote:
There were people who came to South America before that. By the way, there were Irish and French fishermen fishing off the Grand Banks as early as 900-1000 AD. The remains of a semi-permanent camp dating to this period have been found and excavated at Damariscove, MA, near Boston. If you look at it, it is not that far from Europe to North America, by the old sailing routes. The British Isles to either the Faroes or straight through to Iceland, a week or ten days. Iceland to Greenland, a week. Greenland to North America, another week. The fishermen would fish off the Banks, then sail to North America to salt and dry their catch for the voyage back to Europe. It has even been theorized, although not conclusively proven, that Europeans visited North America as far back as the Ice Age. There was an Ice Bridge stretching from Europe all the way to North America, and artifacts of seeming European origin have been found here, and in Northern Europe dating from about 12000 BC. It has also been theorized, also never proven, that the ancient Phoenecians sailed to North America. They certainly visited Britain, and they had ships capable of making the voyage, to North America,but no one knows.
The Chinese are said to have reached the coast of California as early as 500 AD. Generally, among seafaring people, they have poked around a lot more than most people realize.
There were people who came to South America before... (show quote)
I see you have read a lot and educated your self. have you heard of the White tribe discovered in the 1700s living in the mountains of Virginia that spoke Elizabethan English? I find the peopleing of the Americas to be a fascinating subject.

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Apr 6, 2015 00:45:39   #
Vacaman
 
okie don wrote:
It was translated from Hebrew to Greek, then intobEngkish. Much has been lost in translations...


Ancient Hebrew to Ancient Greek then to German by Martin Luther, then Latin and then english. I would say that nothing has been lost or omitted or added. All translations are God inspired, maybe not gramericly correct but language scholars work at understanding ancient records of German and Latin as well as the ancient. Hebrew and the dead seal scrolls in Greek . The fact that Jehovah and Jesus are likely not what either were called and this comes from the Ancient Greek translation of Hebrew. Both beautiful names and I dont believe either offend our Lord and God.

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Apr 6, 2015 00:48:12   #
fiatlux
 
4israel wrote:
It makes me very sad,and also very mad at how these so called preachers have decided to take the governments money to keep the truth from ever being told to their congragations. See the government owns the churches, schools,and yes even the media news channels. They pay all theses places off not to ever let the truth ever get out to the public. I would have to just resign if I was a preacher man, because i'm one that wouldn't except any amount of money, if it meant my congragation couldn't hear the truth of what's to be expected in this world comming their way. First the rapture with 100% certainty. I do believe they know that once they tell the church about the rapture of the saved christians,none of the christians would keep coming to the church, which would mean no money in the offering plates. Men has become so deceiving in the word of God. The new bibles, which are niv bibles, have had all 152 versus about hell removed from them.they never talk about the christians that's being killed in the middle east, for their faith in God,and how it's fixing to start here as well in due time. SHAME ON EVERY MAN OF GOD WHOSE DONE ALL OF THESE THINGS. 2nd Tim.2:4 God tells them to preach the word,which most of the bible now is mans word,and not God's word.God tell us to never add or to takeaway any of his word. 2. These schools decide what are kids learn. What if your a die hard christuan and your little girl says mommy, I learned today that our world started with a big bang theory. Well that's exactly what they teach, and also back when my son was little and in school,I remember going into his school libary,and finding all kinds of books on witchcraft,but never any bibles on any of the shelves. See when you take God out of our government you have nothing but a corrupt government,which is exactly where we're at. Every God fearing christian needs to be praying for the nation of Israel,because now are churches are teaching that God is through with them, which is another lie.read what God says in Romans11:26 this is the whole cause for the tribulation. The saved christians are the church,which God will rapture right before the tribulation, Then through the tribulation the elect which is all israel will be saved Romans 11:26,also gentiles who receive jesus,but will have to die for receiving him during the tribulation Rev.20:4 please pray for everyone to receive jesus before the rapture takes place,because after that time,they will have to die for him. Please stay in the king james bible, so you want be lead astray in this forsaking Godless world.
It makes me very sad,and also very mad at how thes... (show quote)


Too, too funny.

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Apr 6, 2015 03:49:29   #
Betta
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Matthew 5:22, 5:29, 5:30, 10:28, 18:9, 23:15, 23:33
Mark 9:43, 9:45, 9:47
Luke 12:5, 16:23
James 3:6
II Peter 2:4

All of the above speak of Hell in the NIV. Many verses translatede Hell in the KJV are now more properly translated Hades in the newer translations. Hades is the place of the dead and contains both the place of torment and the place of paradise. The context of the scripture gives the proper meaning that should be used.


You are correct about the place of torment and Paradise. Paradise is where Jesus went at His death to lead the captives free. Paradise is where saints went at death and held there against their will. Paradise is where Jesus told the thief, being crucified beside him, "Today you will be with me in Paradise." Jesus wasn't talking about heaven. He didn't ascend into heaven until Pentecost or 52 days after His resurrection.

This is just one of the many, many truths that churches are not teaching today. It is why I stopped going to church when I realized they are following man's tradition, not God's Word. Just about all preachers today are deceived BIG time and are NOT telling the truth about a lot of things. I wonder if they understand what they read at all.

Preachers who teach that easter and x-mas are holy days about Christ's birth, death and resurrection are false teachers. Those two Babylonian pagan festival holidays have nothing whatsoever to do with Christ. They were celebrated long before He was born.

God tells us explicitly to not pick up the ways of the heathen. Preachers teach a doctrine that is contrary to God's Word.

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Apr 6, 2015 06:25:44   #
jelun
 
Loki wrote:
According to B'Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories, 500 Israeli civilians were killed by Palestinians from September 29, 2000 to March 31, 2012 in Israel, and another 254 Israeli civilians were killed in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.[94]

Bear in mind, once more, Israel goes out of it's way to avoid civilian casualties, and the Palestinians go out of their way to cause them.



How about if we go back a bit further?
How about when the Jewish settlers of Israel were the terrorists?

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Apr 6, 2015 08:08:21   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
jelun wrote:
How about if we go back a bit further?
How about when the Jewish settlers of Israel were the terrorists?


I have already done a post on that. Give me a couple of hours to dig it up. It's easier than trying to remember where I researched all that stuff more than a year ago.

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Apr 6, 2015 08:12:34   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
Loki wrote:
I am curious, where did you obtain that DNA information? When you make a statement like that, you should have some proof. Ancient Hebrews traced their ancestry back to a tribe known as the Hebari. It is my understanding that most Palestinians are Arabs, who did not appear in the area of Israel/Palestine/Canaan until about 300 BC. The Hebrews, starting with the Hebari, have maintained some sort of presence there since about 6000 BC. By the way, I can back mine up with cites from reputable academic sources. I did a rather lengthy post on this subject about a year and a half ago. Did I miss something? No offense.
I am curious, where did you obtain that DNA inform... (show quote)



hahahaha. Someone who reads! Thanks, Loki.

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Apr 6, 2015 08:15:42   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
Loki wrote:
There were people who came to South America before that. By the way, there were Irish and French fishermen fishing off the Grand Banks as early as 900-1000 AD. The remains of a semi-permanent camp dating to this period have been found and excavated at Damariscove, MA, near Boston. If you look at it, it is not that far from Europe to North America, by the old sailing routes. The British Isles to either the Faroes or straight through to Iceland, a week or ten days. Iceland to Greenland, a week. Greenland to North America, another week. The fishermen would fish off the Banks, then sail to North America to salt and dry their catch for the voyage back to Europe. It has even been theorized, although not conclusively proven, that Europeans visited North America as far back as the Ice Age. There was an Ice Bridge stretching from Europe all the way to North America, and artifacts of seeming European origin have been found here, and in Northern Europe dating from about 12000 BC. It has also been theorized, also never proven, that the ancient Phoenecians sailed to North America. They certainly visited Britain, and they had ships capable of making the voyage, to North America,but no one knows.
The Chinese are said to have reached the coast of California as early as 500 AD. Generally, among seafaring people, they have poked around a lot more than most people realize.
There were people who came to South America before... (show quote)


I've seen myself, samples of Ogham symbols in Colorado that the locals assumed were Native American Petroglyphs. How long ago did the Celts quit using Ogham? Roman Occupation, right?

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Apr 6, 2015 08:16:36   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
vernon wrote:
the so called palistanians are arabs there were no palastanians the media gave them that name.


Philistines?

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Apr 6, 2015 08:17:21   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
Betta wrote:
You are correct about the place of torment and Paradise. Paradise is where Jesus went at His death to lead the captives free. Paradise is where saints went at death and held there against their will. Paradise is where Jesus told the thief, being crucified beside him, "Today you will be with me in Paradise." Jesus wasn't talking about heaven. He didn't ascend into heaven until Pentecost or 52 days after His resurrection.

This is just one of the many, many truths that churches are not teaching today. It is why I stopped going to church when I realized they are following man's tradition, not God's Word. Just about all preachers today are deceived BIG time and are NOT telling the truth about a lot of things. I wonder if they understand what they read at all.

Preachers who teach that easter and x-mas are holy days about Christ's birth, death and resurrection are false teachers. Those two Babylonian pagan festival holidays have nothing whatsoever to do with Christ. They were celebrated long before He was born.

God tells us explicitly to not pick up the ways of the heathen. Preachers teach a doctrine that is contrary to God's Word.
You are correct about the place of torment and Par... (show quote)


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