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Apr 1, 2015 10:33:54   #
dongreen76
 
Do you know any thing about testosterone and estrogen, these are the chemicals that make a male act like a male and conversely a female act like a female.Why do you think black women [ Preponderance of them ]look like men and act rather aggrresive don't lilke sexually suppress,which is why their so beligerant by the way. Conversely a lot of we white males talk with a lisp,have limp wrist and a natural swissh in their buttocks and act so play hating bitchy [we call it racisim ]. The point is this is not s learned behavior They born with a chemical imbalance therefotr they are no different than a person than another person borned handicapped
These are true homosexual.Then you have the ones that come about do to societal pressures.gender wars,meeting the criteria so a man can be accepted as a man.some are not strong enough to cope,so they take the path of least resistance and act like a female'

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Apr 1, 2015 10:34:09   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
jelun wrote:
Why do you want to categorize anyone?
How do you categorize yourself?


White, Norwegian, male, Christian.

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Apr 1, 2015 10:35:20   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Ricko wrote:
bdamage-we may have it wrong. Some homosexuals exhibit a feminine behavior at an early age (6-7yrs) therefor it is probably genetic as opposed to choice. How does one explain gays trying to become straight so as to live, what we view as, a normal life ? Good Luck America !!!


That is gender identity disorder, and is not same sex or opposite sex preference in sex partners. It is a mental illness, which many studies have found has a type of severe depression disorder at its root. all severe depressions do have a genetic component, often coupled with childhood abuse. there has never been a "gay gene" found, nor any difference between same sex and opposite sex preference as far as brain development for either sex, that is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or those with sexual identity disorder male brains develop the same way and have brain activity in the same parts of the brain, as do all female brains; but the female brain processes information in different parts of the brain and develops differently than does the male brain That processing is coded by your DNA not the hormone levels circulating throughout your body. Please don't ell the thousands of EX GAYS that they cannot change, they did, they have. Instead go to Parents and Friends of EGAYS and gays and read some of their literature That is P-Fox. org.

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Apr 1, 2015 10:38:25   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
bdamage wrote:
Then what category do "they" fit into to obtain ALL of the rights we enjoy?
Race, nationality, gender, or religion?


bdamage-if it is genetic,they did not have any control over their development so why would they not be treated like any other human being ? I would imagine, to them, we are the odd balls. It follows that they are in the minority but growing exponentially. We have had great athletes who were gay and stayed in the closet for years. I will leave the judgement to a more astute power than I am . I do not endorse special privileges for gays but would not deny them equal rights. Its a tough call. Good Luck America!!!

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Apr 1, 2015 10:43:05   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Ricko wrote:
bdamage-if it is genetic,they did not have any control over their development so why would they not be treated like any other human being ? I would imagine, to them, we are the odd balls. It follows that they are in the minority but growing exponentially. We have had great athletes who were gay and stayed in the closet for years. I will leave the judgement to a more astute power than I am . I do not endorse special privileges for gays but would not deny them equal rights. Its a tough call. Good Luck America!!!
bdamage-if it is genetic,they did not have any con... (show quote)


So....then you feel that "marriage" as a right, can be other than one woman and one man as it is clearly defined?

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Apr 1, 2015 10:44:28   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
no propaganda please wrote:
That is gender identity disorder, and is not same sex or opposite sex preference in sex partners. It is a mental illness, which many studies have found has a type of severe depression disorder at its root. all severe depressions do have a genetic component, often coupled with childhood abuse. there has never been a "gay gene" found, nor any difference between same sex and opposite sex preference as far as brain development for either sex, that is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, or those with sexual identity disorder male brains develop the same way and have brain activity in the same parts of the brain, as do all female brains; but the female brain processes information in different parts of the brain and develops differently than does the male brain That processing is coded by your DNA not the hormone levels circulating throughout your body. Please don't ell the thousands of EX GAYS that they cannot change, they did, they have. Instead go to Parents and Friends of EGAYS and gays and read some of their literature That is P-Fox. org.
That is gender identity disorder, and is not same ... (show quote)


no propaganda-great info-thanks. Good Luck America !!!

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Apr 1, 2015 11:15:30   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Ricko wrote:
no propaganda-great info-thanks. Good Luck America !!!


you are quite welcome. Sorry for the typing error it is P-Fox.org Parents and Friends of EX Gays and Gays. They have a fascinating book called MY GENES MADE ME DO IT which can be obtained free by down loading it chapter by chapter. The researchers who did the genetic studies cited are highly regarded in their field. Much of the data is slightly outdated but it is a good place to start.

"Why Gender Matters" by Leonard Sax MD has a lot of information on brain development. If your library is large it might have the gender book. the other book is too Politically Incorrect and the libraries are afraid of it. That is something I have had to deal with for years, even if I offer to donate the book.

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Apr 1, 2015 11:49:30   #
dongreen76
 
In the genes applies inheretied
Why do they look for a faggot gene as oppoze to looking for the chemical im balance that diabetics have are you familiar with the drug risperdal.it does something to muscles,it prohibits an ejaculation,it gradually disinegrates semen,it grows a male adolescent breast.I don't catergorize any one abitrarerly.I come to that conclusion through years of observation.

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Apr 1, 2015 11:56:46   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
bdamage wrote:
Lets see....."We the People" are to not discriminate against anyone's race, nationality, gender, or religion, right?

We all fit into each one of these categories.

Isn't homosexuality a "behavior"?
Which of the above "categories" says behavior?
It seems one is free to "choose" to be a homosexual and it is not against the law between consenting adults.

Do we not also have the freedom to reject this "behavior" and not accept it as being naturally normal if we choose so?

People may have the right to choose homosexual behavior, but "they" have NO right to force others to accept or approve of it.
Lets see....."We the People" are to not ... (show quote)


Your basic premise is flawed. Who would "choose" to be reviled and loathed by his/her peers? Who would "choose" to be rejected by 97.8% of their society, their families and friends and their religious organizations? Homosexuals do not "choose" to be homosexual any more than alcoholics choose to be alcoholic. Once you understand that basic fact the rest of your discourse falls flat indeed.

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Apr 1, 2015 12:00:23   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Your basic premise is flawed. Who would "choose" to be reviled and loathed by his/her peers? Who would "choose" to be rejected by 97.8% of their society, their families and friends and their religious organizations? Homosexuals do not "choose" to be homosexual any more than alcoholics choose to be alcoholic. Once you understand that basic fact the rest of your discourse falls flat indeed.


Alcoholism is a "disease".....not a "behavior".

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Apr 1, 2015 12:17:04   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
bdamage wrote:
Alcoholism is a "disease".....not a "behavior".


Same sex attracted people do not have to act on their attractions. People who have the genetic makeup that makes them more prone to all forms of addiction do not have to act on that either. There is some evidence that the genetic influences that might make it harder for some people to remain addiction free may also be part of the higher rate of same sex behavior often seen in adults who were molested as kids. One does not cause the other, but for some people the pathways that the brain develops that make addiction harder to overcome, may make the desire for same sex activity harder to resist. After all, the brain is plastic in the true sense of the word. Your brain is constantly remaking connection pathways and the more you do a behavior the easier it becomes to do it again and often the more you feel the "need" to do it. If you want to find out more about the plasticity of the brain, and what it has to do with learning, read "the Brain That Changes Itself" Don't remember the author off hand.

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Apr 1, 2015 13:47:07   #
dongreen76
 
ATTN : BDAMAGE
Seperation of "CHURCH & STATE" [
Mortal law trumps Theological
Prima Donna ] .Except in thd middle east.
When you encounter a faggot'what is that you're doing that makes you believe that you're accepting it or condoning it.AND! !how does this impede your efforts toward aknowledging your " GOD".

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Apr 1, 2015 13:55:34   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Same sex attracted people do not have to act on their attractions. People who have the genetic makeup that makes them more prone to all forms of addiction do not have to act on that either. There is some evidence that the genetic influences that might make it harder for some people to remain addiction free may also be part of the higher rate of same sex behavior often seen in adults who were molested as kids. One does not cause the other, but for some people the pathways that the brain develops that make addiction harder to overcome, may make the desire for same sex activity harder to resist. After all, the brain is plastic in the true sense of the word. Your brain is constantly remaking connection pathways and the more you do a behavior the easier it becomes to do it again and often the more you feel the "need" to do it. If you want to find out more about the plasticity of the brain, and what it has to do with learning, read "the Brain That Changes Itself" Don't remember the author off hand.
Same sex attracted people do not have to act on th... (show quote)



Of course your position regarding homosexual behavior begins with your foundational idea that it is sinful or "bad". This is no longer an accepted universal truth.

One has to accept your initial premise for any of the rest of your post to have any merit at all.

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Apr 1, 2015 13:59:41   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
bdamage wrote:
Alcoholism is a "disease".....not a "behavior".


Or an allergy if you prefer but, yes, you are correct. "Homosexual" is not a behavior either. It is a genetic sexual orientation. When you say that homosexual acts are not "normal" you need to realize that they are perfectly normal - for homosexuals. They would be 'abnormal' for heterosexuals and yet some heterosexual people do experiment.

The Catholic Church does not condemn homosexuals but suggests, as you have mentioned, that they accept their orientation but don't act on it. This is quite a lot to ask as the basic desire to share one's life with another is strong, procreation notwithstanding. There are folks who can pull it off but most succumb to their base nature and pair up with someone anyway. Including heterosexual couples who know they have no desire for children of their own.

As for the "marriage" part, I don't have convictions one way or another on that. I do believe that a homosexual couple should be entitled to all of the benefits, restrictions and protections under law that married couples have. Whether you have to have a religious ceremony or a "civil union ceremony" to let all of your friends & family know you are entering that formal union I don't know. But, it's apparently something to think about.

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Apr 1, 2015 14:02:28   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Or an allergy if you prefer but, yes, you are correct. "Homosexual" is not a behavior either. It is a genetic sexual orientation. When you say that homosexual acts are not "normal" you need to realize that they are perfectly normal - for homosexuals. They would be 'abnormal' for heterosexuals and yet some heterosexual people do experiment.

The Catholic Church does not condemn homosexuals but suggests, as you have mentioned, that they accept their orientation but don't act on it. This is quite a lot to ask as the basic desire to share one's life with another is strong, procreation notwithstanding. There are folks who can pull it off but most succumb to their base nature and pair up with someone anyway. Including heterosexual couples who know they have no desire for children of their own.
Or an allergy if you prefer but, yes, you are corr... (show quote)




Dennis - You know how much I appreciate your logical, thoughtful approach to all subjects, even when I disagree with you.

But you and I both know it is just pissing in the wind with most of the crowd on OPP. Logic is not their strongest attribute.

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