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Sep 28, 2013 07:01:05   #
msbets
 
RHONDA, when that freak can stand on the podium of the UN, and declare the world has become SAFER IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WHILE THE MIDDLE EAST IS ON FIRE, IS COMPLETELY INSANE, this thing must have a disease THAT'S FINALLY STARTING TO ROT IT'S BRAIN.

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Sep 28, 2013 07:13:41   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
msbets wrote:
RHONDA, when that freak can stand on the podium of the UN, and declare the world has become SAFER IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WHILE THE MIDDLE EAST IS ON FIRE, IS COMPLETELY INSANE, this thing must have a disease THAT'S FINALLY STARTING TO ROT IT'S BRAIN.


I'm afraid the lying, golfing, partying bag of crap is just starting to get wound up. Put your helmet on cause its gonna get rough!!

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Sep 28, 2013 07:20:45   #
msbets
 
I AGREE ARCHIE, WE AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET

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Sep 28, 2013 07:25:20   #
Kev2m6
 
Rhonda Minden wrote:
You ever notice that Obama's face is in the news every single day and night? Whether it is news or not? Every single thing that he does here in the US or in another country is "Historical," a Record? I still don't understand what the Nobel Peace Prize for him was all about. Wasn't it something to do with keeping peace around the world? Does that include Obama wanting to place America's military in the middle of Syria's own conflict? American's to their Republican Senators state they do not want Obamacare forced on them, yet Obama states You Will Have It. What's up with that? Someone want to try to put a dent in these questions?
You ever notice that Obama's face is in the news e... (show quote)


Let me take a stab at Obamacare. This law was passed by Congress and signed by the President. Doesn't matter how unpopular the law is, it was passed under the Constitution. Under judicial review, the Supreme Court upheld the law as being Constitutional. Those are the facts. All the backroom deals, the lies used to passed the law, and the impractical means by which the intent of the law is meant to work do not matter. Now under the Constitution, Republicans can indeed tinker with the funding of the law but it was passed, signed, and upheld. The only means to prevent Obamacare from maximum damage to the economy and health care system is to allow some damage. The people have not seen how bad this actually is. I haven't either and either has anyone else. Rising premiums are only the beginning and right now Democrats can get away with saying that misinformation is the reason for why the law isn't popular. Allowing this law to take full effect will underscore why Democrats should not be in power for a generation. I believe that Republicans who are blocking funding are incredibly brave for trying to stop any damage as opposed to some damage before Republicans can take back the Senate and the White House. In 2016, when Obamacare is destroying our economy, misinformation will not be the excuse for unpopularity, and Sen. Ted Cruz will look like Nostradamus.

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Sep 28, 2013 07:30:58   #
Kev2m6
 
Blue Flu wrote:
An unknown community organizer becomes president of the only superpower left on the planet. A man with NO experience on the world stage. The last time anything close to this happened the world was plunged into a 6 year long world war.
Giving Obama the Peace Prize was a ruse that worked. Awarding it meant that he'd have to live up to it. He really wanted to bomb Syria but how could he without looking like a hypocrite?
Putin exposed him for what he really is.
Draw your own conclusions.


Exactly what are you implying about World War II? What is thing close to this that you implied may have caused World War II?

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Sep 28, 2013 07:41:01   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Kev2m6 wrote:
Let me take a stab at Obamacare. This law was passed by Congress and signed by the President. Doesn't matter how unpopular the law is, it was passed under the Constitution. Under judicial review, the Supreme Court upheld the law as being Constitutional. Those are the facts. All the backroom deals, the lies used to passed the law, and the impractical means by which the intent of the law is meant to work do not matter. Now under the Constitution, Republicans can indeed tinker with the funding of the law but it was passed, signed, and upheld. The only means to prevent Obamacare from maximum damage to the economy and health care system is to allow some damage. The people have not seen how bad this actually is. I haven't either and either has anyone else. Rising premiums are only the beginning and right now Democrats can get away with saying that misinformation is the reason for why the law isn't popular. Allowing this law to take full effect will underscore why Democrats should not be in power for a generation. I believe that Republicans who are blocking funding are incredibly brave for trying to stop any damage as opposed to some damage before Republicans can take back the Senate and the White House. In 2016, when Obamacare is destroying our economy, misinformation will not be the excuse for unpopularity, and Sen. Ted Cruz will look like Nostradamus.
Let me take a stab at Obamacare. This law was pass... (show quote)

AGREE! Well said sir!

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Sep 28, 2013 09:23:44   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
archie bunker wrote:
Isn't a bit strange that after 5 years, noone has come out and said they were in class with him? Maybe they all died?


For some reason, one thing troubles me about the Obama Birth Certificate. Two things, actually. The first is his race being listed as African-American. He must be truly special, since every other black baby born in Hawaii that year was considered a "negro," because "African-American" had not even been coined yet. It was about ten years before another "African-American" baby was born in Hawaii, if we are to believe this. The second thing that troubles me is, if this certificate is a forgery as claimed, how could such an egregious mistake go unnoticed? Was it checked by idiots?

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Sep 28, 2013 09:27:41   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Kev2m6 wrote:
Let me take a stab at Obamacare. This law was passed by Congress and signed by the President. Doesn't matter how unpopular the law is, it was passed under the Constitution. Under judicial review, the Supreme Court upheld the law as being Constitutional. Those are the facts. All the backroom deals, the lies used to passed the law, and the impractical means by which the intent of the law is meant to work do not matter. Now under the Constitution, Republicans can indeed tinker with the funding of the law but it was passed, signed, and upheld. The only means to prevent Obamacare from maximum damage to the economy and health care system is to allow some damage. The people have not seen how bad this actually is. I haven't either and either has anyone else. Rising premiums are only the beginning and right now Democrats can get away with saying that misinformation is the reason for why the law isn't popular. Allowing this law to take full effect will underscore why Democrats should not be in power for a generation. I believe that Republicans who are blocking funding are incredibly brave for trying to stop any damage as opposed to some damage before Republicans can take back the Senate and the White House. In 2016, when Obamacare is destroying our economy, misinformation will not be the excuse for unpopularity, and Sen. Ted Cruz will look like Nostradamus.
Let me take a stab at Obamacare. This law was pass... (show quote)


I would agree with you on 2016 except for the uncanny ability that the "establishment" Republicans have shown to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They do not care who wins, as long as it does not affect their bottom line. They would make a deal with the Devil or anyone else to keep their positions.

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Sep 28, 2013 11:00:09   #
Blue Flu Loc: HHI
 
Kev2m6 wrote:
Exactly what are you implying about World War II? What is thing close to this that you implied may have caused World War II?


It's easy to see how the world (especially those living in Europe) viewed the election of Obama in 2007 as a potential threat to world peace. As candidate Obama, he proposed increasing the military by 100,000. He also stated that if elected he would attack Pakistan if the intelligence warranted such an attack. BTW, Pakistan is nuclear equipped as is their close ally China.
After he was elected he proposed the creation of a “Civilian National Security Force.” He further promised it would be “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded as the US Military.” Can you say SS?
The Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Obama in 2009 for his "extraordinary efforts" to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples."
It's obvious to me that the Norwegian Nobel Committee hoped to neutralize his warlike fantasies by handing him that prize..
Again, draw your own conclusions,

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Sep 28, 2013 12:08:01   #
msbets
 
BLUE, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST, TO DRAW YOUR CONCLUSION.............I THINK YA NAILED IT.

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Sep 28, 2013 14:21:23   #
grey gringo Loc: South Texas
 
Sure, his degree is in a file with his birth certificate, social security card, and college transcripts. You would think that the NSA could provide them for us!!

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Sep 28, 2013 14:38:48   #
octive9
 
Rhonda Minden wrote:
You ever notice that Obama's face is in the news every single day and night? Whether it is news or not? Every single thing that he does here in the US or in another country is "Historical," a Record? I still don't understand what the Nobel Peace Prize for him was all about. Wasn't it something to do with keeping peace around the world? Does that include Obama wanting to place America's military in the middle of Syria's own conflict? American's to their Republican Senators state they do not want Obamacare forced on them, yet Obama states You Will Have It. What's up with that? Someone want to try to put a dent in these questions?
You ever notice that Obama's face is in the news e... (show quote)


1. Obama is on TV a lot because he is president of the U.S. which makes him a world leader.

2. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for his efforts in nuclear nonproliferation and reaching out the the Muslim world. You may have noticed the he typically does not respond immediately to crises situations with cowboy like ultimatums. Sometimes it seems like he is playing chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers.

3. His record:
Ended the Iraq war.
Winding down the Afghanistan war.
He has taken out many terrorist leaders without starting new wars.
Got rid of Gaddafi without a war.
Scarred Syria into giving up chemical weapons and even got Russia to participate. (playing chess in a checker game)

4. Obama Care has a lot of good things in it:
Insurance companies have to use 80% to actually provide healthcare.
Preexisting conditions can't disqualify you any longer.
Stay on parents insurance to 26 year old.
Seniors pay less for meds, etc. etc.

The biggest thing hasn't started yet. That is the requirement for all to be insured and exchanges to get insurance at reasonable prices, even if it requires government subsidies. That doesn't kick in until January, but people can start signing up on October 1.

So far about 1% more people are covered than before but it hasn't really started yet. However, the overall cost of healthcare has risen at a slower rate than it has in decades.

Our health care system has been way out of control for a long time. This reins it in a little.

If you don't get insured there is a small tax penalty, and this is because you can't be turned down at a hospital in an emergence. If you are not insured, it has to be paid from other sources.

There is a whole lot more to it than this. Is Obama care perfect - no, but it's a lot better than what we have been dealing with.

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Sep 28, 2013 14:54:01   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
octive9 wrote:
1. Obama is on TV a lot because he is president of the U.S. which makes him a world leader.

2. He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 for his efforts in nuclear nonproliferation and reaching out the the Muslim world. You may have noticed the he typically does not respond immediately to crises situations with cowboy like ultimatums. Sometimes it seems like he is playing chess while the rest of the world is playing checkers.

3. His record:
Ended the Iraq war.
Winding down the Afghanistan war.
He has taken out many terrorist leaders without starting new wars.
Got rid of Gaddafi without a war.
Scarred Syria into giving up chemical weapons and even got Russia to participate. (playing chess in a checker game)

4. Obama Care has a lot of good things in it:
Insurance companies have to use 80% to actually provide healthcare.
Preexisting conditions can't disqualify you any longer.
Stay on parents insurance to 26 year old.
Seniors pay less for meds, etc. etc.

The biggest thing hasn't started yet. That is the requirement for all to be insured and exchanges to get insurance at reasonable prices, even if it requires government subsidies. That doesn't kick in until January, but people can start signing up on October 1.

So far about 1% more people are covered than before but it hasn't really started yet. However, the overall cost of healthcare has risen at a slower rate than it has in decades.

Our health care system has been way out of control for a long time. This reins it in a little.

If you don't get insured there is a small tax penalty, and this is because you can't be turned down at a hospital in an emergence. If you are not insured, it has to be paid from other sources.

There is a whole lot more to it than this. Is Obama care perfect - no, but it's a lot better than what we have been dealing with.
1. Obama is on TV a lot because he is president o... (show quote)

Ok 17 trillion in debt and 90 trillion I
n unfunded liabilitys. Who is going to pay these subsidies?

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Sep 28, 2013 15:06:15   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
archie bunker wrote:
Ok 17 trillion in debt and 90 trillion I
n unfunded liabilitys. Who is going to pay these subsidies?


Who do you think?

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Sep 28, 2013 15:45:08   #
octive9
 
Some are saying that Obamacare will actually reduce the deficit. That remains to be seen.

However, don't forget the Bush started with a budget surplus, turned a half trillion debt into an 8 trillion dollar debt, and left with a trillion plus deficit. The deficit has been reduce at the fastest rate since the end of WWII and is down to about half a trillion.

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