How to royally PO a liberal and send them packing (Page 7): At the very least becoming a moderate, but for real happiness develop into a Conservative.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

eden wrote:

Ahhh...a MORAL disease. And what is the nostrum?

At the very least becoming a moderate, but for real happiness develop into a Conservative.

eden

Old_Gringo wrote:

eden, while I wouldn't classify Liberalism as a 'psychiatric mental disease' I would call Progressive(ism) a 'moral disease'.

I would be interested to know your definition of Liberal, Progressive, Conservative and Libertarian. (If you don't mind...) It seems everybody I talk to has a different definition.

Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth

"I like that about conservatives, the evidence does not faze them, they are not bothered by the facts at all! Bill Clinton

eden

Old_Gringo wrote:

At the very least becoming a moderate, but for real happiness develop into a Conservative.

Ah ...then we are on the same sheet of music. Not precisely simpatico but close enough.

rumitoid

eden wrote:

Ah ...then we are on the same sheet of music. Not precisely simpatico but close enough.

The voice of Reason you offer appears conditional (and judgmental). Well, at least there appears a certain bent. But I think you need a few days to determine who is just a mouthpiece of Hate and who is simply passionate for this country. Thus far, you have confused this point.

eden

rumitoid wrote:

The voice of Reason you offer appears conditional (and judgmental). Well, at least there appears a certain bent. But I think you need a few days to determine who is just a mouthpiece of Hate and who is simply passionate for this country. Thus far, you have confused this point.

I am sorry if you are confused. I offer reason as an antidote to unreason. It is not my place to judge although I occasionally wield it in the service of making a point. Don't bother looking for a bent and don't succumb to the compulsive desire to assign me to some category of your tribal politics. It is not complicated, I am very boring and wishy washy. A lay political scientist. That means that I just report the science with a singular disinterest in ideology.
As for the mouthpieces of hate....there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Stay tuned.

..oh and keep posting.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

If we are to survive. We can only survive if we have cooperation with others. Being liberal means cooperating with others. If we don't care for our fellow man & he don't care for us we will not survive as a livable world.

A liberal shows some care for others.

A conservative cares only for him self & his kind.
He has & wants to keep what he has & to get more. The others be dammed.

astrolite

Floyd Brown wrote:

If we are to survive. We can only survive if we have cooperation with others. Being liberal means cooperating with others. If we don't care for our fellow man & he don't care for us we will not survive as a livable world.

A liberal shows some care for others.

A conservative cares only for him self & his kind.
He has & wants to keep what he has & to get more. The others be dammed.

A liberal ONLY CLAIMS he has care for others! That too is a lie. Basicly liberals think the truth is whatever they say at the time, they are perfectly capable of denying that they said anything even some minutes later! When challenged with proof, the liberal gets violent, claiming the challenger is a liar, and insulting the challenger! The liberal actually believes whatever he lies about, and interestingly, believes that he didn't make any changes! And will probably deny insulting the challenger! That is why liberalism is a mental illness! Debating with liberals is impossible! Sort of like debating with a rock? Same intelligence and knowledge!

alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa

Floyd Brown wrote:

If we are to survive. We can only survive if we have cooperation with others. Being liberal means cooperating with others. If we don't care for our fellow man & he don't care for us we will not survive as a livable world.

A liberal shows some care for others.

A conservative cares only for him self & his kind.
He has & wants to keep what he has & to get more. The others be dammed.

going by your definition there are no liberals in the obozo admin.

scottyb

eden wrote:

I am sorry if you are confused. I offer reason as ... (show quote)

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PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Floyd Brown wrote:

If we are to survive. We can only survive if we have cooperation with others. Being liberal means cooperating with others. If we don't care for our fellow man & he don't care for us we will not survive as a livable world.

A liberal shows some care for others.

A conservative cares only for him self & his kind.
He has & wants to keep what he has & to get more. The others be dammed.

The care a Liberal shows for others is that which he can derive by hook or crook from others in order to redistribute some of it while retaining most for himself.

A Liberal only wants to be given that which the Conservative has worked for, but doesn't want to dirty his hands by achieving it on his own.

astrolite

Old_Gringo wrote:

The care a Liberal shows for others is that which he can derive by hook or crook from others in order to redistribute some of it while retaining most for himself.

A Liberal only wants to be given that which the Conservative has worked for, but doesn't want to dirty his hands by achieving it on his own.

I like your definition.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Old_Gringo wrote:

The care a Liberal shows for others is that which he can derive by hook or crook from others in order to redistribute some of it while retaining most for himself.

A Liberal only wants to be given that which the Conservative has worked for, but doesn't want to dirty his hands by achieving it on his own.

Just where is all the wealth & just what seems to be their political leaning? The system rewards money better than it rewards human effort. Why do I pay higher taxes on the money I earn by labor than I do on money my money makes?

Molly

Eden.. I sit somewhere in the middle and I have seen this back and forth go back and forth right there with you. I just wish people would stop acting based on politics and start acting for what is best for the people they represent within the confines of what can get done.

eden

Molly wrote:

Eden.. I sit somewhere in the middle and I have seen this back and forth go back and forth right there with you. I just wish people would stop acting based on politics and start acting for what is best for the people they represent within the confines of what can get done.

Both sides are stuck with their respective talking points and absurd need to demonize the other. That is the nature of tribal politics. Hundreds of thousands of years have gone by since we roamed the grassy veldts but we still have this need to cluster in groups and fight for dominance and resources.