This was reply to lone ghost post but the mechanics of posting and separating from original post still not always clear to me as new user!!,
well written lone ghost but living through watergate also your para on
Nixon and conclusion he left office because Democrats were in the majority - we're they even? Is false or misleading memory that should be refuted even if you don't want to listen, as indicated in your last para.
He actually did commit high crimes, a long list actually, and even acknowledged he did saying they weren't illegal because he was President. Ford pardoned him and doomed his place in history and office because he was a simple and honest man and respected the office and also the man. Nixon was an enigma, he did some incredible things but his innate hubris on the one hand and inferiority complex and suspicion that everyone was against him on the other, doomed him, he could have been a better than Humphrey Bogart in the conspiracy movie whose name escapes me (but I remember it all started with the strawberries haha) without even acting!
The point, in an otherwise well written attempt to summarize history you do it and yourself a disservice by glossing over what Nixon did...if that is your memory that Nixon was only impeached because of democrats it is rewriting actual history and should justifiably be refuted.
So much hyperbole that is silly these days as in Obama's of fences far worse than Nixon, of course not, to your credit you don't trot out that crap, but Libya while a judgement call no worse than other such Presidential actions under War Powers Act.
Don Overton wrote:
You really are a nut case. Or more like a racist idiot
Dumbass right wing crazies.
Stupid ass left wing pendejos.
katz
Loc: washington
kvdon wrote:
Snowbear you show your age and intolerance and foolishness. He is not Obummer, have some respect for the office even if you don't like the man, he is not a kid or did you mean boy! Obama is obviously a lot smarter than you he may from your or others (who actually have a brain) viewpoints made mistakes, all Presidents do again from one's viewpoints. It's obvious you and others would impeach him or worse for just breathing and having the impertinence of twice running for and winning the highest office in the land...even if a usually thankless task especially with folks like you. So get over it show some respect and post what it is you disagree with, not useless drivel!
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He is Obummer, he manages to screw up everything he touches. Jobs, economy, dept, Mid East crisis, lower income, unemployment, food stamps increase, increase in part time jobs. Shall I go in. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
Lone Ghost wrote:
"There are two ways of looking at this, the fact that the only three impeached presidents in US history were democrats..."
Nixon was a democrat? Hmmm.
adennya wrote:
Lone Ghost wrote:
"There are two ways of looking at this, the fact that the only three impeached presidents in US history were democrats..."
Nixon was a democrat? Hmmm.
Nixon was a Republican, and he resigned while the House was in the process of bringing Articles of Impeachment. The resignation was accepted in lieu of bringing the Articles. It was, however, a Democratic House. The two who actually had Articles brought against them were Andrew Johnson, and Bill Clinton.
you said Nixon was impeached by the democrats. not true. Nixon resigned knowing he would be impeached, so he resigned. and Nixon was a republican not democrat
Katz, obummer is a America hater and he done all those dirty deeds on purpose He knows what he's doing and it is all by design to destroy this country
freedom isnt free wrote:
you said Nixon was impeached by the democrats. not true. Nixon resigned knowing he would be impeached, so he resigned. and Nixon was a republican not democrat
I thought I just said that. Were you replying to me?
Just think about this : They are not Obama's enemies !
lone_ghost wrote:
Not really, in 1941 Franklin D Roosevelt passed through congress the "lend/lease Act which allowed America to provide weapons to any country they felt were under oppression from Nazi Germany. Since then almost every war time president in American history has utilized this in order to provide arms and aid to what only has to be classified as a population that the president deems oppressed by an overwhelming force that violates the doctrine or determinate concerning human rights. (in layman's terms, any act of genocide or the intentional killing of non-combatants. Civilians). So according to the law Obama has not committed treason.
Politicians exploit the grey area that exists between what the law actually says, and what they can interoperate (and convince the public) it to mean. Obama, and every president has a dedicated staff that does nothing more than legally cover their ass.
The power to impeach lies entirely within the House of Representatives. They investigate, charge, and pursue the impeachment process. The Senate is responsible for actually removing the president from office (they can however override the house with a majority vote) keeping the president in office.
In the history of the United States only three out of 43 presidents have ever faced impeachment,
Andrew Johnson- Succeeded Abraham Lincoln after his assassination in 1865. A democrat. He was impeached for his policies towards a re-unification of north and south following the civil war. He was considered a sympathizer. However the senate lacked one vote needed to remove him from office. He was later accredited for bringing the country back together as one entity. He is considered a hero by many.
Richard Nixon- The only president actually removed from office through the impeachment process. A Democrat. the official reason he was removed from office was failing to comply with house subpoenas. He refused to provide the requested documents for a congressional investigation. (sound familiar) Obama has done this many times. Yet he is still in office. Before all of the democrats get on their high horse, Nixon was impeached by democrats, not republicans. Gerald Ford pardoned him of all crimes shortly after his inauguration in 1974.
Bill Clinton- A Democrat. We all love Bill "I can not recall that Clinton" He also refused to provide congress with information, lied under oath during congressional hearings, and basically made every thing that was bad someone else's doing. (sound familiar?)
There are two ways of looking at this, the fact that the only three impeached presidents in US history were democrats could be seen as republican or conservative propaganda that led to their downfall. Which of course would be a liberal way of thinking. Some one else is always to blame, can not possibly be us because we are always right. Just believe everything we say and you will see that it is true.
Nixon was impeached by democrats, Clinton was saved by republicans from impeachment. True history from a person who lived through both situations. How exactly do you refute the memory of someone who actually lived through a situation, and convince them that they are wrong about what happened. That's right, you do not. You convince their children that they are mistaken, old age and all.
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Correction(s)
Richard Nixon was a Republican.
Richard Nixon was NOT impeached. He resigned before any impeachment was filed.
Can you imagine a democrat even being in trouble for the same things today? It was a tempest in a teapot by Obama standards.
no, I was referring to lone goast
Don Overton wrote:
You really are a nut case. Or more like a racist idiot
Dumbass right wing crazies.
Don your response was wrong! Faith is right, the race card has been plated to the point that everybody is afraid of being called a racist. Personally, I'm sick of it! This president is a failure and more! He is a criminal according to the constitution of the United States of America!!!!
faithistheword wrote:
Correction(s)
Richard Nixon was a Republican.
Richard Nixon was NOT impeached. He resigned before any impeachment was filed.
Can you imagine a democrat even being in trouble for the same things today? It was a tempest in a teapot by Obama standards.
Sorry Lone Ghost but again, that last statement is nonsense, if someone from any party was proved to have ordered break-ins, payoffs, set up slush funds, subverted investigations etc. they would be indicted so saying can you imagine a democrat being in trouble and that Nixon's crimes, yes they were crimes, are a tempest in a teapot by Obama standards, no crimes only make believe scandals, its hyperbolic utter nonsense that diminishes the other intelligent comments you make on this and other subjects.
So suck it up, show some limited objectivity and back off the nonsense statements, its why many people don't take conservatives seriously.
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