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Dec 28, 2014 22:01:25   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
For the most part people do not change. In case you did not know or remember, here is a character insight from history.

IN CASE YOU FORGOT !!!!


You can pass this along, or you can wait until she is president.

Is there any wonder why there is a controversy surrounding Ben Benghazi ?



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Dec 28, 2014 22:05:49   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
RETW wrote:
For the most part people do not change. In case you did not know or remember, here is a character insight from history.

IN CASE YO FORGOT !!!!

As a 27 year old staff attorney for the House Judiciary Committee during the Watergate Investigation, Hillary Rodham was fired by her supervisor, lifelong Democrat Jerry Zeifman.
When asked why she was fired, Zeifman said in an interview, because she was a liar, She was an unethical lawyer, she conspired to violate the Constitution, The rules of the house, the rules of the committee, and the rules of
confidentiality.

You can pass this along, or you can wait until she is president.
For the most part people do not change. In case yo... (show quote)


Facts do not matter to libs; they vote on emotion and feelings. Hillary is as big a con as Obama , Reid, Pelosi and yes, probably some RINOS too. That is exactly why we need a non-political man with honesty and character like Carson. Anything less, we are done for as a country.

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Dec 28, 2014 22:39:42   #
Kevyn
 
RETW wrote:
For the most part people do not change. In case you did not know or remember, here is a character insight from history.

IN CASE YO FORGOT !!!!


You can pass this along, or you can wait until she is president.
Here is a link to evidence that not only is the story untrue but the nut job rights favorite dope fiend Rush Limbaugh lied about the whole thing on one of his three hour daily propaganda fests, it is likely this is why such a bullshit story would get traction. http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/04/04/limbaugh-repeats-assertion-by-watergate-committ/143117

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Dec 28, 2014 23:02:21   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to evidence that not only is the story untrue but the nut job rights favorite dope fiend Rush Limbaugh lied about the whole thing on one of his three hour daily propaganda fests, it is likely this is why such a bullshit story would get traction. http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/04/04/limbaugh-repeats-assertion-by-watergate-committ/143117


The story is true and has been proven over and over again,stop lying you little fairy no one is buying it.

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Dec 28, 2014 23:17:21   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
[quote=Kevyn]Here is a link to evidence that not only is the story untrue but the nut job rights favorite dope fiend Rush Limbaugh lied about the whole thing on one of his three hour daily propaganda fests, it is likely this is why such a bullshit story would get traction. http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/04/04/limbaugh-repeats-assertion-by-watergate-committ/143117[/quote



xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You are an idiot! Why do you even bother?

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/02/25/hillary-fired-lies-unethical-behavior-congressional-job-former-boss


RETW

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Dec 29, 2014 00:56:47   #
Al-ien
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to evidence that not only is the story untrue but the nut job rights favorite dope fiend Rush Limbaugh lied about the whole thing on one of his three hour daily propaganda fests, it is likely this is why such a bullshit story would get traction. http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/04/04/limbaugh-repeats-assertion-by-watergate-committ/143117



Kevyn, as always you're horseshit, Read and weep.

COUNSEL CONFIRMS HILLARY'S 'FRAUDULENT' WATERGATE BRIEF
Clinton was fired for allegedly colluding with Kennedys to protect JFK legacy
Published: 04/07/2008 at 2:25 PM


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Hillary Clinton, with chief counsel John Doar (left), bringing impeachment charges against President Nixon before the House Judiciary Committee in 1974
Details of Hillary Clinton’s firing from the House Judiciary Committee staff for unethical behavior as she helped prepare articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon have been confirmed by the panel’s chief Republican counsel.

Franklin Polk backed up major claims by Jerry Zeifman, the general counsel and chief of staff
of the House Judiciary Committee who supervised Clinton’s work on the Watergate investigation in 1974, reported columnist Dan Calabrese in a column republished by WND.



Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, called Clinton a “liar” and “an unethical, dishonest lawyer.”

He contends Clinton was collaborating with allies of the Kennedys to block revelation of Kennedy-administration activities that made Watergate “look like a day at the beach.”

Her brief, Zeifman said, was so fraudulent and ridiculous, she would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

Polk confirmed Clinton wrote a brief arguing Nixon should not be granted legal counsel due to a lack of precedent. But Clinton deliberately ignored the then-recent case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who was allowed to have a lawyer during the impeachment attempt against him in 1970.

Moreover, Zeifman claims Clinton bolstered her fraudulent brief by removing all of the Douglas files from public access and storing them at her office, enabling her to argue as if the case never existed.

Polk confirmed the Clinton memo ignored the Douglas case, but he could not confirm or dispel the claim that Hillary removed the files.

Looking back on the case amid Clinton’s fierce battle with Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, Calabrese sees a picture emerging “of a very ambitious young lawyer who was eager to please her political patrons, and was willing to mislead and undermine established committee staff and senior committee members in order to do so.”

The columnist, editor in chief of the North Star Writers Group, noted Zeifman has been “trying to tell his story for many years, and the mainstream media have ignored him.”


Zeifman said Clinton, then 27, was hired to work on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who also was Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick case.

When the Watergate probe concluded, Zeifman said, he fired Clinton from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation. She was one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career, Calabrese pointed out.


Jerry Zeifman
Zeifman told the columnist he fired Clinton because she was a liar.

“She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer,” Zeifman said. “She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Zeifman said Clinton collaborated with several individuals, including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum, who later became counsel in the Clinton White House. Their aim, he said, was the seemingly implausible scheme to deny Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

The Kennedy allies, Zeifman said, feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by the president’s counsel. Hunt, according to Zeifman, had evidence of nefarious activities by President John F. Kennedy’s administration, including purportedly using the mafia to attempt to assassinate Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Polk regarded Clinton’s memo as dishonest because it tried to pretend the Douglas precedent didn’t exist. But, unlike Zeifman, he considered it more stupid than sinister.

“Hillary should have mentioned [the Douglas case] and then tried to argue whether that was a change of policy or not instead of just ignoring it and taking the precedent out of the opinion,” Polk told Calabrese.

But Zeifman argues that if Clinton, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, House Judiciary members also would have been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.

Polk recalls Zeifman told him at the time he believed Clinton’s primary role was to alert Marshall if the investigation was taking a turn against the Kennedys’ liking.

“Jerry used to give the chapter and verse as to how Hillary was the mole into the committee works as to how things were going,” Polk said.

Polk remembered some Democrat committee members, as well as nearly all the Republicans, were upset at the attempt to deny counsel to Nixon.

Zeifman said top Democrats, including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, believed Nixon clearly had the right to counsel.

“Of course the Republicans went nuts,” Polk said. “But so did some of the Democrats – some of the most liberal Democrats. It was more like these guys – Doar and company – were trying to manage the members of Congress, and it was like, ‘Who’s in charge here?’ If you want to convict a president, you want to give him all the rights possible. If you’re going to give him a trial, for him to say, ‘My rights were denied,’ – it was a stupid effort by people who were just politically tone deaf. So this was a big deal to people in the proceedings on the committee, no question about it.”


Bill and Hillary Clinton on their wedding day in 1975
Polk said Zeifman rightfully “went nuts,” as well, but “my reaction wasn’t so much that it was underhanded as it was just stupid.”

Calabrese concludes: “Disingenuously arguing a position? Vanishing documents? Selling out members of her own party to advance a personal agenda? Classic Hillary. Neither my first column on the subject nor this one were designed to show that Hillary is dishonest. I don’t really think that’s in dispute. Rather, they were designed to show that she has been this way for a very long time – a fact worth considering for anyone contemplating voting for her for president of the United States.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/04/60962/#PhHfCU3heT0HxGgr.99

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Dec 29, 2014 03:45:20   #
funguy1949
 
Kevyn wrote:
Here is a link to evidence that not only is the story untrue but the nut job rights favorite dope fiend Rush Limbaugh lied about the whole thing on one of his three hour daily propaganda fests, it is likely this is why such a bullshit story would get traction. http://mediamatters.org/research/2008/04/04/limbaugh-repeats-assertion-by-watergate-committ/143117


:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: LYING PIECE OF CRAP

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Dec 29, 2014 03:48:01   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
RETW wrote:
For the most part people do not change. In case you did not know or remember, here is a character insight from history.

IN CASE YOU FORGOT !!!!


You can pass this along, or you can wait until she is president.

Is there any wonder why there is a controversy surrounding Ben Benghazi ?


Al-ien wrote:
Kevyn, as always you're horseshit, Read and weep.

COUNSEL CONFIRMS HILLARY'S 'FRAUDULENT' WATERGATE BRIEF
Clinton was fired for allegedly colluding with Kennedys to protect JFK legacy
Published: 04/07/2008 at 2:25 PM


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Hillary Clinton, with chief counsel John Doar (left), bringing impeachment charges against President Nixon before the House Judiciary Committee in 1974
Details of Hillary Clinton’s firing from the House Judiciary Committee staff for unethical behavior as she helped prepare articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon have been confirmed by the panel’s chief Republican counsel.

Franklin Polk backed up major claims by Jerry Zeifman, the general counsel and chief of staff
of the House Judiciary Committee who supervised Clinton’s work on the Watergate investigation in 1974, reported columnist Dan Calabrese in a column republished by WND.



Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, called Clinton a “liar” and “an unethical, dishonest lawyer.”

He contends Clinton was collaborating with allies of the Kennedys to block revelation of Kennedy-administration activities that made Watergate “look like a day at the beach.”

Her brief, Zeifman said, was so fraudulent and ridiculous, she would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

Polk confirmed Clinton wrote a brief arguing Nixon should not be granted legal counsel due to a lack of precedent. But Clinton deliberately ignored the then-recent case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who was allowed to have a lawyer during the impeachment attempt against him in 1970.

Moreover, Zeifman claims Clinton bolstered her fraudulent brief by removing all of the Douglas files from public access and storing them at her office, enabling her to argue as if the case never existed.

Polk confirmed the Clinton memo ignored the Douglas case, but he could not confirm or dispel the claim that Hillary removed the files.

Looking back on the case amid Clinton’s fierce battle with Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, Calabrese sees a picture emerging “of a very ambitious young lawyer who was eager to please her political patrons, and was willing to mislead and undermine established committee staff and senior committee members in order to do so.”

The columnist, editor in chief of the North Star Writers Group, noted Zeifman has been “trying to tell his story for many years, and the mainstream media have ignored him.”


Zeifman said Clinton, then 27, was hired to work on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who also was Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick case.

When the Watergate probe concluded, Zeifman said, he fired Clinton from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation. She was one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career, Calabrese pointed out.


Jerry Zeifman
Zeifman told the columnist he fired Clinton because she was a liar.

“She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer,” Zeifman said. “She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Zeifman said Clinton collaborated with several individuals, including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum, who later became counsel in the Clinton White House. Their aim, he said, was the seemingly implausible scheme to deny Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

The Kennedy allies, Zeifman said, feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by the president’s counsel. Hunt, according to Zeifman, had evidence of nefarious activities by President John F. Kennedy’s administration, including purportedly using the mafia to attempt to assassinate Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Polk regarded Clinton’s memo as dishonest because it tried to pretend the Douglas precedent didn’t exist. But, unlike Zeifman, he considered it more stupid than sinister.

“Hillary should have mentioned [the Douglas case] and then tried to argue whether that was a change of policy or not instead of just ignoring it and taking the precedent out of the opinion,” Polk told Calabrese.

But Zeifman argues that if Clinton, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, House Judiciary members also would have been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.

Polk recalls Zeifman told him at the time he believed Clinton’s primary role was to alert Marshall if the investigation was taking a turn against the Kennedys’ liking.

“Jerry used to give the chapter and verse as to how Hillary was the mole into the committee works as to how things were going,” Polk said.

Polk remembered some Democrat committee members, as well as nearly all the Republicans, were upset at the attempt to deny counsel to Nixon.

Zeifman said top Democrats, including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, believed Nixon clearly had the right to counsel.

“Of course the Republicans went nuts,” Polk said. “But so did some of the Democrats – some of the most liberal Democrats. It was more like these guys – Doar and company – were trying to manage the members of Congress, and it was like, ‘Who’s in charge here?’ If you want to convict a president, you want to give him all the rights possible. If you’re going to give him a trial, for him to say, ‘My rights were denied,’ – it was a stupid effort by people who were just politically tone deaf. So this was a big deal to people in the proceedings on the committee, no question about it.”


Bill and Hillary Clinton on their wedding day in 1975
Polk said Zeifman rightfully “went nuts,” as well, but “my reaction wasn’t so much that it was underhanded as it was just stupid.”

Calabrese concludes: “Disingenuously arguing a position? Vanishing documents? Selling out members of her own party to advance a personal agenda? Classic Hillary. Neither my first column on the subject nor this one were designed to show that Hillary is dishonest. I don’t really think that’s in dispute. Rather, they were designed to show that she has been this way for a very long time – a fact worth considering for anyone contemplating voting for her for president of the United States.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/04/60962/#PhHfCU3heT0HxGgr.99
Kevyn, as always you're horseshit, Read and weep. ... (show quote)


You guys should get your information from an unbiased source.

This is untrue that Hillary Clinton was fired for unethical conduct.

See Snopes article:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp

They found in conclusion, "However, one need only go back to the source of the rumor and Zeifman's own statement that he did not have the power to fire Hillary Clinton to discount that now common version of political lore: the evidence indicates that, whatever Zeifman may have thought of Clinton's behavior, she was let go from the Watergate committee because she was one of a number of people who were no longer needed as the investigation wound down (and Nixon's resignation made the issue moot), not because she was "fired" over ethical issues.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/zeifman.asp#tr75LhEb6xdq7F86.99

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Dec 29, 2014 03:49:25   #
funguy1949
 
funguy1949 wrote:
:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: LYING PIECE OF CRAP


Hillery's track record is nothing but failures though & though,If
liberals vote for something that is crap as she is then I stand on my diffenition of what a real libertard is DEAF/DUM/BLIND

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Dec 29, 2014 05:19:06   #
Billie S Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Al-ien wrote:
Kevyn, as always you're horseshit, Read and weep.

COUNSEL CONFIRMS HILLARY'S 'FRAUDULENT' WATERGATE BRIEF
Clinton was fired for allegedly colluding with Kennedys to protect JFK legacy
Published: 04/07/2008 at 2:25 PM


Text smaller
Text bigger
4.3K

Hillary Clinton, with chief counsel John Doar (left), bringing impeachment charges against President Nixon before the House Judiciary Committee in 1974
Details of Hillary Clinton’s firing from the House Judiciary Committee staff for unethical behavior as she helped prepare articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon have been confirmed by the panel’s chief Republican counsel.

Franklin Polk backed up major claims by Jerry Zeifman, the general counsel and chief of staff
of the House Judiciary Committee who supervised Clinton’s work on the Watergate investigation in 1974, reported columnist Dan Calabrese in a column republished by WND.



Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, called Clinton a “liar” and “an unethical, dishonest lawyer.”

He contends Clinton was collaborating with allies of the Kennedys to block revelation of Kennedy-administration activities that made Watergate “look like a day at the beach.”

Her brief, Zeifman said, was so fraudulent and ridiculous, she would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.

Polk confirmed Clinton wrote a brief arguing Nixon should not be granted legal counsel due to a lack of precedent. But Clinton deliberately ignored the then-recent case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who was allowed to have a lawyer during the impeachment attempt against him in 1970.

Moreover, Zeifman claims Clinton bolstered her fraudulent brief by removing all of the Douglas files from public access and storing them at her office, enabling her to argue as if the case never existed.

Polk confirmed the Clinton memo ignored the Douglas case, but he could not confirm or dispel the claim that Hillary removed the files.

Looking back on the case amid Clinton’s fierce battle with Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, Calabrese sees a picture emerging “of a very ambitious young lawyer who was eager to please her political patrons, and was willing to mislead and undermine established committee staff and senior committee members in order to do so.”

The columnist, editor in chief of the North Star Writers Group, noted Zeifman has been “trying to tell his story for many years, and the mainstream media have ignored him.”


Zeifman said Clinton, then 27, was hired to work on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who also was Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick case.

When the Watergate probe concluded, Zeifman said, he fired Clinton from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation. She was one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career, Calabrese pointed out.


Jerry Zeifman
Zeifman told the columnist he fired Clinton because she was a liar.

“She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer,” Zeifman said. “She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

Zeifman said Clinton collaborated with several individuals, including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel Bernard Nussbaum, who later became counsel in the Clinton White House. Their aim, he said, was the seemingly implausible scheme to deny Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.

The Kennedy allies, Zeifman said, feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by the president’s counsel. Hunt, according to Zeifman, had evidence of nefarious activities by President John F. Kennedy’s administration, including purportedly using the mafia to attempt to assassinate Cuban dictator Fidel Castro.

Polk regarded Clinton’s memo as dishonest because it tried to pretend the Douglas precedent didn’t exist. But, unlike Zeifman, he considered it more stupid than sinister.

“Hillary should have mentioned [the Douglas case] and then tried to argue whether that was a change of policy or not instead of just ignoring it and taking the precedent out of the opinion,” Polk told Calabrese.

But Zeifman argues that if Clinton, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, House Judiciary members also would have been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.

Polk recalls Zeifman told him at the time he believed Clinton’s primary role was to alert Marshall if the investigation was taking a turn against the Kennedys’ liking.

“Jerry used to give the chapter and verse as to how Hillary was the mole into the committee works as to how things were going,” Polk said.

Polk remembered some Democrat committee members, as well as nearly all the Republicans, were upset at the attempt to deny counsel to Nixon.

Zeifman said top Democrats, including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, believed Nixon clearly had the right to counsel.

“Of course the Republicans went nuts,” Polk said. “But so did some of the Democrats – some of the most liberal Democrats. It was more like these guys – Doar and company – were trying to manage the members of Congress, and it was like, ‘Who’s in charge here?’ If you want to convict a president, you want to give him all the rights possible. If you’re going to give him a trial, for him to say, ‘My rights were denied,’ – it was a stupid effort by people who were just politically tone deaf. So this was a big deal to people in the proceedings on the committee, no question about it.”


Bill and Hillary Clinton on their wedding day in 1975
Polk said Zeifman rightfully “went nuts,” as well, but “my reaction wasn’t so much that it was underhanded as it was just stupid.”

Calabrese concludes: “Disingenuously arguing a position? Vanishing documents? Selling out members of her own party to advance a personal agenda? Classic Hillary. Neither my first column on the subject nor this one were designed to show that Hillary is dishonest. I don’t really think that’s in dispute. Rather, they were designed to show that she has been this way for a very long time – a fact worth considering for anyone contemplating voting for her for president of the United States.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2008/04/60962/#PhHfCU3heT0HxGgr.99
Kevyn, as always you're horseshit, Read and weep. ... (show quote)


And here is an article that "WND Misleads on Zeifman's Hillary-Bashing, Ignores His Conflicting Firing Claims"

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/index.blog/1803714/wnd-misleads-on-zeifmans-hillarybashing-ignores-his-conflicting-firing-claims/

Read the whole article but the last paragraph is, "Indeed, none of Zeifman's major attacks on Hillary have been independently corroborated. And Zeifman's flip-flop about whether he fired Hillary would seem to make him an unreliable witness.

While the Clinton and Democrat haters are very strident as evident of all the opinion articles on just this one claim, there seems to be few facts being provided. What I find strange is they make much over this and overlook the fact that President Nixon
was forced to resign or be impeached for his criminal acts.

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Dec 29, 2014 06:00:26   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
RETW wrote:
For the most part people do not change. In case you did not know or remember, here is a character insight from history.

IN CASE YOU FORGOT !!!!


You can pass this along, or you can wait until she is president.

Is there any wonder why there is a controversy surrounding Ben Benghazi ?

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Dec 29, 2014 06:05:24   #
shipfitter Loc: Wisconsin, for now
 
Hows that view with Your Empty Head , UP your LIB/DEM A$$ !!! ??? Kinda Shitty I bet . But then again , ALL you LIB/DEMS have a Shitty view of the Truth .

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Dec 29, 2014 06:06:10   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
shipfitter wrote:
Hows that view with Your Empty Head , UP your LIB/DEM A$$ !!! ??? Kinda Shitty I bet . But then again , ALL you LIB/DEMS have a Shitty view of the Truth .


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Dec 29, 2014 06:56:50   #
111
 
Give more rope!

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Dec 29, 2014 07:28:36   #
MajorAhrens Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
Clinton, Bill or Hill are chameleons. They change to suit their surroundings. Has anyone noticed how narcissistic Democrats are? I guess that's one of the qualifications one has to have to be allowed on the Democrat team.

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