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Dec 3, 2014 16:50:20   #
grumbledog
 
DennisDee wrote:
Oh really?

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, December 21, 2002: “This is a crisis.” Unemployment rate at that time: 6.0 percent.

The New York Daily News, 11/2/2003: “The good news that economic growth leaped from June through September runs smack up against the miserable realities of a 6.1% U.S. unemployment rate and a state jobless rate of 8.8%. Until those figures drop, there is no cause for celebration in the streets. Count reviving the national economy as one mission that President Bush hasn’t accomplished.”

November 2006: “Pelosi was not to be outdone, however, firing back at the president who she claimed had “the worst jobs record since the Great Depression,” in spite of Friday’s news that the October jobless rate fell to 4.4 percent, the lowest it has been in more than five years.”


Obama did nothing. The Bush TARP Program stabilized Wall Street. Obama then passed a wasteful stimulus and Obamacare.
Oh really? br br House Minority Leader Nancy Pelo... (show quote)


When GWB left office unemployment was 7.8 last month 5.8
GWB on implemented half of the TERP program Obama did the balance.

The housing market is back, Auto industry having best years in decades. more people working. The fact that people can now get health insurance is not a bad thing

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Dec 3, 2014 16:52:31   #
grumbledog
 
DennisDee wrote:
They will do plenty. Obama will VETO all the bills. Which will prove we need a GOP President


Why so the Koch bros and corporations can get more tax breaks.

Yes he will veto any bill that going to hurt the American people.

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Dec 3, 2014 16:54:03   #
KHH1
 
Alicia wrote:
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I definitely disagree. President Obama will gain the status he rightly deserves for all that he's accomplished. The shame will be placed rightfully on the biased TPREPS who accomplished nothing during the Obama Administration - AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD!!! In addition to accomplishing nothing for this nation, they did everything possible to destroy anything that held PRESIDENT OBAMA'S signature. BUT they certainly wasted the time for which they were paid a salary to represent their constituencies an obligation they did not honor.

50 chances to get rid of one law? What good might they have done for this country had they not wasted the time spent on Obamacare. For years the health system needed work but had they accomplished anything for the good? Not a thing!

Do you really think they can accomplish any good now? They've become so used to doing nothing besides attacking our President, they've forgotten how to work in the other direction.
I do not look forward to it, but I expect to see the outrage you righties (thus far) will disclose when you see what the Koch moneyed influence has planned for this country. Just remember this - "The good old days were NOT what you'd like to believe they were. What comes to your mind now has been purely propaganda.
****************** br I definitely disagree. Pres... (show quote)


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Dec 3, 2014 16:54:24   #
grumbledog
 
parob2005 wrote:
Grumble dog. Obummer has done nothing for this country but sank it lower than whale shit at the bottom of the sea.Better go back to smoking wacky weed asshole!


Why don't you list the things his done to hurt the country

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Dec 3, 2014 16:56:57   #
KHH1
 
Neal wrote:
Oh Alicia - you're trying to talk sense to these dullards again. They don't see it, they don't understand it, and even worse, they're so filled with lying right wing propaganda, there's little hope they'll ever see the light.


**You are sooo much smarter than me....I really believed they possessed sensibilities one could appeal to...but when the only rebuttal someone can offer is to call you a fag/spook/chimp/muslim...that should tell one something about their audience they are trying to communicate with.

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Dec 3, 2014 16:57:05   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
grumbledog wrote:
Why don't you list the things his done to hurt the country


Everything he has done,there is your list.

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Dec 3, 2014 17:01:42   #
VladimirPee
 
Bush initiated TARP. Obama followed him. Bush also began the Auto Bailouts.

Obama jobs suck. Low pay and part time.

Insuring a few million people by Screwing the Vast Majority of Americans is why ACA is unpopular and Democrats lost.

Huffington last year. A Left Wing source

75 Percent Of Jobs Created This Year Were Part-Time Due To Weak Economy, Obamacare Concerns
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html


grumbledog wrote:
When GWB left office unemployment was 7.8 last month 5.8
GWB on implemented half of the TERP program Obama did the balance.

The housing market is back, Auto industry having best years in decades. more people working. The fact that people can now get health insurance is not a bad thing

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Dec 3, 2014 17:03:41   #
VladimirPee
 
KHH
Or pulls the race card as you do so often.



KHH1 wrote:
**You are sooo much smarter than me....I really believed they possessed sensibilities one could appeal to...but when the only rebuttal someone can offer is to call you a fag/spook/chimp/muslim...that should tell one something about their audience they are trying to communicate with.

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Dec 3, 2014 17:08:15   #
grumbledog
 
Hemiman wrote:
Everything he has done,there is your list.


Let's see unemployment under 6%
Financial markets at all time highs
Housing market booming
Thousand ,perhaps millions owner able to keep their homes because of HARP
auto industry have best years in decades after almost collapsing.
Millions able to get health insurance for the 1st time
Ended or about to end 2 unfunded Wars
brought American troops home out of harms way

so there's my list where's yours

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Dec 3, 2014 17:15:10   #
grumbledog
 
DennisDee wrote:
Bush initiated TARP. Obama followed him. Bush also began the Auto Bailouts.

Obama jobs suck. Low pay and part time.

Insuring a few million people by Screwing the Vast Majority of Americans is why ACA is unpopular and Democrats lost.

Huffington last year. A Left Wing source

75 Percent Of Jobs Created This Year Were Part-Time Due To Weak Economy, Obamacare Concerns
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/21/part-time-job-creation_n_3788365.html


Actually you are only partially right.

TRAP was started under GWB finished under Obama
GWB did nothing to help Auto industry that's why Obama acted.

ACA helped more people then it hurt but no one is willing to admit that, just 2 thing kids could stay on parents plan until 25, and insurance companies can't turn you down (or charge outrageous rate for pre-existing condition)

and every month they give you a breakdown of where the jobs were created. You use an article from 2013 well if you can get good facts get old facts

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Dec 3, 2014 17:23:47   #
VladimirPee
 
Umm no

ACA let kids stay on until age 26 this causing Family Rates to increase. My company had to add 862 of these so called kids. All family plans increased in price

ACA also led to deductible increases for most Americans. Its a disaster and that is why it is unpopular.

2013 is a prime example of Obama jobs.

Bush announces $17.4 billion auto bailout
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16740.html




grumbledog wrote:
Actually you are only partially right.

TRAP was started under GWB finished under Obama
GWB did nothing to help Auto industry that's why Obama acted.

ACA helped more people then it hurt but no one is willing to admit that, just 2 thing kids could stay on parents plan until 25, and insurance companies can't turn you down (or charge outrageous rate for pre-existing condition)

and every month they give you a breakdown of where the jobs were created. You use an article from 2013 well if you can get good facts get old facts
Actually you are only partially right. br br TRAP... (show quote)

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Dec 3, 2014 17:26:50   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
grumbledog wrote:
Why don't you list the things his done to hurt the country


Here you go, but please understand this is only a partial list and there are only certain things here that actually hurt our country....the other stuff is mostly embarrassing and unbecoming of the POTUS.

&#9726;First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
&#9726;First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
&#9726;First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
&#9726;First President to violate the War Powers Act.
&#9726;First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
&#9726;First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
&#9726;First President to spend a trillion dollars on “shovel-ready” jobs when there was no such thing as “shovel-ready” jobs.
&#9726;First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
&#9726;First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
&#9726;First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
&#9726;First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
&#9726;First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
&#9726;First President to terminate America’s ability to put a man in space.
&#9726;First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
&#9726;First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
&#9726;First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
&#9726;First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
&#9726;First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
&#9726;First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
&#9726;First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
&#9726;First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
&#9726;First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
&#9726;First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
&#9726;First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
&#9726;First President to golf more than 150 separate times in his five years in office.
&#9726;First President to hide his birth, medical, educational and travel records.
&#9726;First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
&#9726;First President to go on multiple “global apology tours” and concurrent “insult our friends” tours.
&#9726;First President to go on over 17 lavish vacations, in addition to date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
&#9726;First President to have personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
&#9726;First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
&#9726;First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
&#9726;First President to repeat the Holy Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth
&#9726;First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
&#9726;First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences.”
&#9726;Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion. (Thank God he didn’t get away with THIS one.)

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Dec 3, 2014 17:28:38   #
KHH1
 
DennisDee wrote:
KHH
Or pulls the race card as you do so often.


*So i guess acknowledging what I was called is a "race card" move also, correct?

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Dec 3, 2014 17:31:59   #
VladimirPee
 
Now Now. If I attack my own you will call me an Uncle Tom or equivalent.


KHH1 wrote:
*So i guess acknowledging what I was called is a "race card" move also, correct?

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Dec 3, 2014 17:32:15   #
PRM2014
 
grumbledog, the reason for unempoloyment went down is people quit looking for work, droped out of the workforce.

Less people looking for work, are not counted as unempolyed.

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