bluejacket

you commented on the last half of the post how about he first half

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Just more liberal crapola. Wasn't worth commenting on.

rumitoid

Honestly, you believe that Bush got it worse than Obama during his presidency? Afterwards, maybe, with good cause, but during?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you for your comments. Your assessment of me is yours and I am gratified that it is not the consensus of my peers and friends. I assure you, I was not mocking your friend. I simply acknowledged his constraint. If you read your remarks and your supporters, you will find that those remarks are disrespectful and are not written as debate or even conversational in tone, rather they are harsh and written in such a way to produce hostilities. Often your remarks are laced with condemnation of ideas or thoughts that do not mirror your own and when the conversation comes around to Obama, you are very out spoken in his defense.

Regarding your comments on 911. The Federal Bureau of Investigation connected the hijackers to al-Qaeda. Starting in 1996 Osama bin Laden, stated in public proclamations (fatwas) and in interviews with journalists his common list of grievances which he cited as the reason for his declaration of war against the United States. In 1998 Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, (a leader of Egyptian Islamic Jihad), co-signed a fatwa (binding religious edict) in the name of the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders, declaring:

“The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies civilians and military – is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem) and the holy mosque (in Makka) from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty Allah, 'and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,' and 'fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah.”

If the slaughter of the people in the Twin Towers and those at the Pentagon is not evil, then I certainly need to know what you could call evil. The realization that there were babies killed during this attack, young children whose life had just started cut short by crazy men who were brainwashed into thinking that they would find favor with God for murder. Not only children, but all of the other senseless deaths in the name of Allah, is simply wrong in the minds of any thinking or rational being. Even animals do not kill for pleasure, so these creatures were beneath the animal kingdom. While speaking of evil teachings and hateful expressions, I believe there are parts of your religion which teaches hate, the murder of innocents, and disrespect for women. I would never find comfort nor could I ever respect those types of teachings. It is apparent that you are a Muslim and therefore know more about your teachings than I. I will not debate you on the ideologies of your religion vice those of Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion or philosophes centered on religion.

In regards to the video that I supplied and was hotly contested by your friend, I offered no judgment other than the words were out of Obama’s mouth. I am also in the process of obtaining the entire speeches where the excerpts were extracted. I am doing this due to the protest of your friend. I believe this to be fair and lacking in prejudgment and would present an unbiased way to judge Obama’s comments.

I do apologize for my misspelling of the word Muslim. I am truly sorry that this offended you, but it was a simple typographical error. Have you never made a mistake in typing? If not, then you are indeed special, a party of one who is without error.

bluejacket

avoidance and denial part of the makeup of a good conservative

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Oh yes I do! The LSM went after him with a vengeance! The liberals as well! If they had this forum at the time you would have seen it just as you now see for Obama. I lived through it, and wrote many letters to the editor of our local rag at the time.

bluejacket

how can it be liberal crapola , when they were hot topics in the conservative bubble,or more precisely the conservative echo chamber

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Respect is earned. It is not an automatic bestowment on an individual due to office. Respect for the Office of the United States Presidency is and has always been a punishable offence under the UCMJ which is applicable to the military. But, never been a punishable offence for civilians or for that matter documented in any books that I have available on laws both past and present. Although there is a teacher in North Carolina who hold the same views as you, I think with due diligence and research on your part as well as hers, you will find there are no basis for your claims. Throughout history the public condemnation of the president as well as other leaders including kings, queens, and dictators are well documented.

You claim to be “no hater.” I find your claim at this particular time contradictory to the many times you have expressed your dissatisfaction with people with whom you disagree. The remark also seems misplaced in your comment, as though it is an afterthought. Curious. You go on to say that there is no proof of Obama wrongdoing. I think that if you really research the actions of your beloved president, you may find that he is not as saintly as you want to believe. You demand proof and then dismiss any evidence that is presented. You seem to want to keep your mind as open as a virgin nun faced with the possibility of having intercourse. This was not intended to be offensive, but rather the best analogy I can bring to bear on your wish to defend a misguided, ineffectual, and unqualified (based on experience and his resume) man.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Well met, ginnyt

Florida Girl Loc: Alabama

Sorry to be so blunt today - I'm not feeling so great and my keyboard isn't either - it's acting up and the punctuation marks have rebelled or worn out. But gee your reasoning does seem thick-headed. The President has said this about himself openly and veiled in videos that have been circulating forever. It's not just American people looking for something negative on Obama or the Egyptians who are doing their best to warn us that are saying this. Wake up. I don't know what it will take to open your eyes that he is Muslim and supports the Muslim Brotherhood of which his half-brother is a member and Obama is feeding money to but my oh my you are really straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel on this issue. It also comes to mind what I learned in American history classes in high school (and with a handle like rumitoid you have to be similar to my age) there was often strong criticism of those in politics openly and without inhibition about politicians all the way up to and including the President of the United States. Contrary to being hung for saying something derogatory the politicians themselves often had duels in which the other participant was shot and killed. Compared to this our present day politics are rather mild wouldn't you say? That is if you don't count those people and reporters and whistleblowers that just plain ended up dead for delving into political secrets and planning to make them public. A study of Obama and his beliefs is right there in the open if you would pursue it. Sad that you don't know this but it isn't rocket science. We have an enemy in the highest office in our country and he has surrounded himself with like minded individuals. The only way out of this one is for God to deliver and bless the United States of America one more time. No offense but I just can't read this denial stuff anymore and not answer it.

Florida Girl Loc: Alabama

I don't know how you would even recognize a real conservative if you tripped over one. The only thing I can say is your sarcasm is predictable from your side of the issue. If only you people used your brain or could add two plus two. it would be worth a try for conversation. But you have such closed minds and refuse to see the nose right on your faces. Again I say hope you like your hope and change. By the way they don't give a darn for you and will turn on you as soon as your usefulness is over. How many people have tried to warn liberals and they are so hard headed they can't see it. Just like Dr. Phil says you'd just rather be right than look at the facts.. Really very little hope for you. When they are thru with you and your propaganda they will just run over you like they are doing the rest of us. You are not part of their elite group so don't cry when it happens - it was your decision to buy all that crap.

rumitoid

" But, never been a punishable offence for civilians or for that matter documented in any books that I have available on laws both past and present. Although there is a teacher in North Carolina who hold the same views as you, I think with due diligence and research on your part as well as hers, you will find there are no basis for your claims."

This link says differently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you and this is most interesting. Although I do not like wikipedia as the end all source of information, until I read all of the references I have no choice but to accept that I was wrong.

rumitoid

Usually wiki is a last resort but it is good to get other references. In this instance, it seemed sufficient.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

What a difference in your response when I agree with you. So nice and polite, so civil. Very different from when I disagree...... your personality interests me.