Who are the communists in our government? (Page 9): Never heard of him old roy...

Lou Loc: Florida

oldroy wrote:

I never spell the name John Cary as you did because those troops spelled it Jon Carry and I picked up on that. Let me try one more time to allow you to see their sign.

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/funnypictures/ig/Funniest-Pictures-of-Decade/Help-Us-J...

Never heard of him old roy

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

alex wrote:

I just listened to col. Peters col Hunt on O'Rielly and they kind of gave me a big head, I have been telling my wife for weeks that we should let those sheet-heads kill each other we have Asaud on one side and Al Quaida on the other so stay out of it and they both said the same thing

I listened to only that part of O'Reilly and found old Bill against both of them.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Lou wrote:

Never heard of him old roy

Try clicking on that link and you can see those troops very much against Jon Carry.

rumitoid

Yankeeclipper, the government introduced was a marvel of political thought, borrowing from a rich array of sources but coming up with something never before imagined.
Here is an interesting history of the origins of democracy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/greekdemocracy_01.shtml

Here is an interesting read on scoialism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Socialism as defined today and grossly misunderstood by many on the Right was unknown to the Founding Fathers, yet things like funding public libraries are social programs.
Here is an article that may change your mind: http://www.jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2009/10/our-socialist-founding-fathers.php
And here is another that could have you re-think things: http://governmentlegalsolutions.blogspot.com/2012/02/founding-fathers-and-many-great.html
Good reading and enjoy.

stymie

rumitoid wrote:

Yankeeclipper, the government introduced was a mar... (show quote)

Rumi - I read your links and offered my thoughts on another post. It seems you drank the Kool-Aid . It's the one about the MSNBC girl hanging up.

AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi

Karzen wrote:

Having a high IQ is no substitute for common sense... (show quote)

Absolutely. When people working full time at Walmart qualify for food stamps and Medicaid because they earn so little, the taxpayers are giving welfare to the Walton heirs. Welfare at the top, and dog eat dog capitalism for everyone else. Walmart fights unions, fights increases in the minimum wage to keep its profits high.

AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi

oldroy wrote:

Try clicking on that link and you can see those troops very much against Jon Carry.

Who is Jon Carry?

rumitoid

stymie wrote:

Rumi - I read your links and offered my thoughts on another post. It seems you drank the Kool-Aid . It's the one about the MSNBC girl hanging up.

stymie, I offered a few articles for yankee clipper to read considering a different vantage point which I found interesting. This is not a surrender to Marxism or whatever drinking the koolaid means to you. You know that the Declaration of Independence was not for Blacks, women, Native Americans, or non-property holding whites, right? Yet the Founding Fathers had created the first bottom up government, one of we the people. Is it your suggestion that they would forsake those people in time of need or not welcome provisions to keep the elderly from being a burden on the people or the state?

As stated earlier, a great many hear confuse a welfare state, caring for the citizens in need with government programs, and socialism.

I will look for your response in that other thread.

carolyn

AnnMarie wrote:

Absolutely. When people working full time at Walmart qualify for food stamps and Medicaid because they earn so little, the taxpayers are giving welfare to the Walton heirs. Welfare at the top, and dog eat dog capitalism for everyone else. Walmart fights unions, fights increases in the minimum wage to keep its profits high.

Don't you think the influx of unions were what cause the gap to increase so greatly between what a person made and the cost of goods? When I worked in Lafayette, Indiana, we non-union members could depend on the goods in the stores increasing every time Alcoa Aluminum got a contract raise. We had to adjust our salary to meet these raises which eventually became quite an undertaking.

rumitoid

carolyn wrote:

Don't you think the influx of unions were what cause the gap to increase so greatly between what a person made and the cost of goods? When I worked in Lafayette, Indiana, we non-union members could depend on the goods in the stores increasing every time Alcoa Aluminum got a contract raise. We had to adjust our salary to meet these raises which eventually became quite an undertaking.

It would be good to see the history of labor in this country, what life was like at the hands of most industries. Many of the things we take as givens today in the workplace, 8 hour day and 40 hour week, job safety, benefits of any kind, are not thanks to the beneficence of the "job creaters" but unions.

vernon

Inyourface wrote:

Has anyone informed dear,Carolyn that this is the 21st century? This poor baby is still living in the anti communist,1950s. Hopefully her obviously,small circle of friends and family have yet to do the right thing and have this poor woman medicated or institutionalized.

in your face you are completely ignorant about communism.you just want someone to do the work and you get the benefits.it dosent work all you get is poverty except the leadership

vernon

Karzen wrote:

Having a high IQ is no substitute for common sense... (show quote)

you are completely screwed up.dont you realize the money has been redistribution is from the middles to the welfare class

72BADGER Loc: Texas

Triple A
(1)Attitude - Be Kind, gentile & persuasive.
(2)Argument - Cultivate your own opinion, don't regurgitate someone else's.
(3)Accuracy - Defend your opinion with multiply sources.
- Last, but not least, sthu. You said what you wanted to. Don't rehash it, don't get in a pissing match over it, that will only weaken your argument. When your initial comment fails, just let it go. It's not worth anymore of your time. "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". And my favorite, "ya can't fix stupid".
For 9 days I've been pulled back into this "very old" topic.
It has been a massive fail, A couple of you shouldn't have access to the Internet. One of you has serious attitude problems, at this stage of your life, if you can't refrain from name, calling even Therapy wouldn't help. Do the rest of us a favor and calm down. This page isn't going to fix anything, it only seems to cause anger and imagined violence. Show respect, please.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Lou wrote:

Never heard of him old roy

Lou, Ann Marie...the link oldroy gives you makes it clear that the troops spelled his name wrong on a banner full of misspellings to clarify his calling them "stupid" for serving in Iraq. Oldroy just chooses to use that spelling, J-O-H-N C-A-R-Y to magnify their/his opinion of John Kerry.

AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi

carolyn wrote:

Don't you think the influx of unions were what cause the gap to increase so greatly between what a person made and the cost of goods? When I worked in Lafayette, Indiana, we non-union members could depend on the goods in the stores increasing every time Alcoa Aluminum got a contract raise. We had to adjust our salary to meet these raises which eventually became quite an undertaking.

Well, today, the US is very productive, and that productivity shows up in dividends, in stock price but not in wages. Real wages, adjusted for inflation have stayed flat for the last 40 years. The decline of unions is one of the reasons why the workers have not shared in those productivity gains. Unions won benefits for their members-health insurance, workplace safety, 8 hour day, 5 day week that then spilled over into non-union jobs. Today with Walmart, "right to work for less" states, union busting such as we have in Wisconsin, the unions are less powerful and wages have stagnated. If you enjoy a weekend off, you can thank a union. The wide disparity between the well off and the middle class, indeed the shrinking of the middle class that is occuring today spells trouble down the road-the income disparity has not been this high since the great depression. When poor and middle class people cannot buy the stuff rich people make, you get a depression.