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Sep 1, 2014 16:57:12   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-isis-catsimatidis-obama/2014/08/31/id/591887/?ns_mail_uid=35953315&ns_mail_job=1584023_09012014&s=al&dkt_nbr=tk33f5ok

And so they have. Causing wanton death and destruction every where the go. Life means nothing to these beasts. This filth should be eradicated from the face of the earth in total.

Romney may not be the best campaigner.
But he dam sure was right on the mark in many respects.

If he does run again. I am going to give him some real consideration.

RETW
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

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Sep 1, 2014 17:07:56   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
RETW wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-isis-catsimatidis-obama/2014/08/31/id/591887/?ns_mail_uid=35953315&ns_mail_job=1584023_09012014&s=al&dkt_nbr=tk33f5ok

And so they have. Causing wanton death and destruction every where the go. Life means nothing to these beasts. This filth should be eradicated from the face of the earth in total.

Romney may not be the best campaigner.
But he dam sure was right on the mark in many respects.

If he does run again. I am going to give him some real consideration.

RETW
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-isis-catsi... (show quote)

RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a down in the dirt campaigner. Had the election been fair and square he would have won. The democrats used every dirty tactic possible to include the IRS debacle to get an undeserved win and America is paying the price for it. I hope there are enough sane people left out their to avoid a repeat performance. Had Romney won there most likely would not be any scandal involving the administration. ISIS would not have taken root as he would have negotiated a Status of Forces agreement. Bush left the door wide open on that one but Obama was not interested because it did not fit his agenda. Romney is correct, that Obama bears the brunt of the blame for what has happened to IRAQ and the ensuing ISIS fiasco. Obama/Biden were up front ready to take full credit for success in Iraq and it was to be a crowing achievement for the administration. Now that it has gone to hell because of their ineptness its all Bush's fault. That is pure unadulterated weakness on the part of the president and his shady administration. Good Luck America !!!

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Sep 1, 2014 17:51:24   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
What anyone expect Obama was and is a community Organizer and nothing more.


Ricko wrote:
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a down in the dirt campaigner. Had the election been fair and square he would have won. The democrats used every dirty tactic possible to include the IRS debacle to get an undeserved win and America is paying the price for it. I hope there are enough sane people left out their to avoid a repeat performance. Had Romney won there most likely would not be any scandal involving the administration. ISIS would not have taken root as he would have negotiated a Status of Forces agreement. Bush left the door wide open on that one but Obama was not interested because it did not fit his agenda. Romney is correct, that Obama bears the brunt of the blame for what has happened to IRAQ and the ensuing ISIS fiasco. Obama/Biden were up front ready to take full credit for success in Iraq and it was to be a crowing achievement for the administration. Now that it has gone to hell because of their ineptness its all Bush's fault. That is pure unadulterated weakness on the part of the president and his shady administration. Good Luck America !!!
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a dow... (show quote)

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Sep 1, 2014 18:36:29   #
faithistheword
 
Ricko wrote:
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a down in the dirt campaigner. Had the election been fair and square he would have won. The democrats used every dirty tactic possible to include the IRS debacle to get an undeserved win and America is paying the price for it. I hope there are enough sane people left out their to avoid a repeat performance. Had Romney won there most likely would not be any scandal involving the administration. ISIS would not have taken root as he would have negotiated a Status of Forces agreement. Bush left the door wide open on that one but Obama was not interested because it did not fit his agenda. Romney is correct, that Obama bears the brunt of the blame for what has happened to IRAQ and the ensuing ISIS fiasco. Obama/Biden were up front ready to take full credit for success in Iraq and it was to be a crowing achievement for the administration. Now that it has gone to hell because of their ineptness its all Bush's fault. That is pure unadulterated weakness on the part of the president and his shady administration. Good Luck America !!!
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a dow... (show quote)




I still say---"Pres. Bush won the Iraq war---barackhussein lost the peace". He did so willfully and on purpose--to further his agenda of bringing down The USA. How could so many people have been so blind? And still be defending him?

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Sep 1, 2014 23:40:42   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
RETW wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-isis-catsimatidis-obama/2014/08/31/id/591887/?ns_mail_uid=35953315&ns_mail_job=1584023_09012014&s=al&dkt_nbr=tk33f5ok

And so they have. Causing wanton death and destruction every where the go. Life means nothing to these beasts. This filth should be eradicated from the face of the earth in total.

Romney may not be the best campaigner.
But he dam sure was right on the mark in many respects.

If he does run again. I am going to give him some real consideration.

RETW
8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/romney-isis-catsi... (show quote)


I wonder, when was the last time a Republican agreed with ANYTHING a Democrat did? I can't recall, so this kind of thing is boring. The same is true for Democrat complaints about Republicans. It's all just so much noise pollution, but has no more consequence than that.

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Sep 2, 2014 09:27:57   #
OldSarge
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I wonder, when was the last time a Republican agreed with ANYTHING a Democrat did? I can't recall, so this kind of thing is boring. The same is true for Democrat complaints about Republicans. It's all just so much noise pollution, but has no more consequence than that.


This is a statement which cannot be refuted. However, it has no bearing on the subject at hand. Possibly one of the problems facing the American people is that we cannot, or do not , stay on subject when in a meaningful discussion

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Sep 2, 2014 13:59:29   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
OldSarge wrote:
This is a statement which cannot be refuted. However, it has no bearing on the subject at hand. Possibly one of the problems facing the American people is that we cannot, or do not , stay on subject when in a meaningful discussion


It was EXACTLY on topic. Listening to one sides description of the errors of their opponents is pointless. They don't have any motivation to be honest and factual, so.... What we NEED, are folk with enough integrity to at least admit that they MIGHT be wrong. Now THAT would be worth listening to.

What you described as America's problem is true, to an extent, but the REAL problem is allowing partisan interests to pick our subjects of discussion FOR us. That forces us to sift through any number of lies, misrepresentations, mis-directions and out right fabrications. There is always some kernel of truth to partisan statements, but trying to find it, amongst all the rhetoric and crap, is exhausting - and most people don't bother. So, we just pick a side and commence to fighting. Questioning one's own sides motivations and accuracy is not PC, so we don't do it. This behavior PRECLUDES discussion. It only invites agreement or disagreement, which is NOT discussion.

The truth is out there, but you'll not likely find it amongst the "talking heads" of the Democratic, or Republican party, or the media outlets that support them.

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Sep 2, 2014 14:47:16   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
Ricko wrote:
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a down in the dirt campaigner. Had the election been fair and square he would have won. The democrats used every dirty tactic possible to include the IRS debacle to get an undeserved win and America is paying the price for it. I hope there are enough sane people left out their to avoid a repeat performance. Had Romney won there most likely would not be any scandal involving the administration. ISIS would not have taken root as he would have negotiated a Status of Forces agreement. Bush left the door wide open on that one but Obama was not interested because it did not fit his agenda. Romney is correct, that Obama bears the brunt of the blame for what has happened to IRAQ and the ensuing ISIS fiasco. Obama/Biden were up front ready to take full credit for success in Iraq and it was to be a crowing achievement for the administration. Now that it has gone to hell because of their ineptness its all Bush's fault. That is pure unadulterated weakness on the part of the president and his shady administration. Good Luck America !!!
RETW-Romney is too much of a gentleman to be a dow... (show quote)



Well said. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 2, 2014 14:50:34   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
faithistheword wrote:
I still say---"Pres. Bush won the Iraq war---barackhussein lost the peace". He did so willfully and on purpose--to further his agenda of bringing down The USA. How could so many people have been so blind? And still be defending him?


That is the $ 64,000.oo question. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

RETW

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Sep 2, 2014 15:07:00   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I wonder, when was the last time a Republican agreed with ANYTHING a Democrat did? I can't recall, so this kind of thing is boring. The same is true for Democrat complaints about Republicans. It's all just so much noise pollution, but has no more consequence than that.


According to that logic, we should all go through up our hands and stay home? What the hell,
nothings going to get done anyway.


Is that what your saying?

Nothing could be further from the truth.
The last time I checked, the only game in town was ( Republican and
Democrat ). You may not like it, I may not like it. But this is the only play book there is.
Right or wrong, Its all we got.
I fully understand what you are saying. But that in no way, should suggest we wait for the right time to come along. That may never happen. Just a thought.

RETW 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

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Sep 2, 2014 18:14:26   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
RETW wrote:
According to that logic, we should all go through up our hands and stay home? What the hell,
nothings going to get done anyway.


Is that what your saying?

Nothing could be further from the truth.
The last time I checked, the only game in town was ( Republican and
Democrat ). You may not like it, I may not like it. But this is the only play book there is.
Right or wrong, Its all we got.
I fully understand what you are saying. But that in no way, should suggest we wait for the right time to come along. That may never happen. Just a thought.

RETW 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
According to that logic, we should all go through ... (show quote)


That's what I mean. Repubs and Dems ARE NOT the only game in town. They just want you to think so. Dems/Repubs count for 60% of the vote, but only 12% of the ELIGIBLE voters. That means that we're letting 36,000,000 people decide what is best for 300,000,000 people. So more people need to vote - and vote independent. THEN we'll see voting for people and ideas, instead of for party.

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Sep 2, 2014 21:47:42   #
RETW Loc: Washington
 
lpnmajor wrote:
That's what I mean. Repubs and Dems ARE NOT the only game in town. They just want you to think so. Dems/Repubs count for 60% of the vote, but only 12% of the ELIGIBLE voters. That means that we're letting 36,000,000 people decide what is best for 300,000,000 people. So more people need to vote - and vote independent. THEN we'll see voting for people and ideas, instead of for party.


You have said and I quote " That's what I mean. Repubs and Dems ARE NOT the only game in town. "

I don't, or fail to see how that is true. I do agreee the numbers you put forth are some what correct. I get that, also I agree with you. But, Should-a Would-a Could-a does not work. So setting all that aside, if they are not the only game in town, please tell me who is?

RETW :shock: :shock: 8-) 8-)

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Sep 2, 2014 23:49:53   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
RETW wrote:
You have said and I quote " That's what I mean. Repubs and Dems ARE NOT the only game in town. "

I don't, or fail to see how that is true. I do agreee the numbers you put forth are some what correct. I get that, also I agree with you. But, Should-a Would-a Could-a does not work. So setting all that aside, if they are not the only game in town, please tell me who is?

RETW :shock: :shock: 8-) 8-)


Anyone we want it to be. Subscribing to the idea that the ONLY persons elected are going to be either a dem or a repub, is exactly what they want. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Those two parties account for 98% of total campaign contributions and many people equate amount of money to electability. That is only true if we MAKE it true.

Many people believe that their vote doesn't count, unless they vote for the winner. That is ALSO crap. If every person who voted refused to vote for either a dem or a repub, there'd be another parties candidate elected. Sometimes, ONLY repubs and dems run and that's too bad, but there is usually another candidate available for Federal elections. If WE don't do the right thing, we can hardly expect anyone else to.

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Sep 3, 2014 15:49:58   #
OldSarge
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Anyone we want it to be. Subscribing to the idea that the ONLY persons elected are going to be either a dem or a repub, is exactly what they want. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Those two parties account for 98% of total campaign contributions and many people equate amount of money to electability. That is only true if we MAKE it true.

Many people believe that their vote doesn't count, unless they vote for the winner. That is ALSO crap. If every person who voted refused to vote for either a dem or a repub, there'd be another parties candidate elected. Sometimes, ONLY repubs and dems run and that's too bad, but there is usually another candidate available for Federal elections. If WE don't do the right thing, we can hardly expect anyone else to.
Anyone we want it to be. Subscribing to the idea t... (show quote)


We make too much of stated party affiliations. Politicos change coats to suit the times. Check party affiliations of elected legislators. How many have switched party affiliations while in office. Besides, how many truly represent the party's platform which they have embraced in order to win election. How many party planks have been supported during their term in office? Throughout history the true statesman has been noticeable by his absence. The world could use one now!!

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Sep 3, 2014 15:55:13   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
OldSarge wrote:
We make too much of stated party affiliations. Politicos change coats to suit the times. Check party affiliations of elected legislators. How many have switched party affiliations while in office. Besides, how many truly represent the party's platform which they have embraced in order to win election. How many party planks have been supported during their term in office? Throughout history the true statesman has been noticeable by his absence. The world could use one now!!


:thumbup:

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