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Aug 21, 2013 12:20:39   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wrecking everyone's health care and having the IRS in charge of making sure you have healthcare and what type you must carry, even though the CBO says 30 million will be without health care. Getting the troops out of Iraq without a plan put forward by the military has resulted in a failed state and thousands of deaths. Telling the enemy when we are leaving Afghanistan but keeping troops there with no plan has resulted in many more American deaths than under the old policies. Putting millions back to work part-time because of His policies and millions more on food stamps. Making Obama President for life is not good enough for him. He is a tyrant and would prefer the moniker King. Putting you back on your meds. PRICELESS! for
blocklanes wrote:
The job that Obama has done so far would make him a president for life if they changed the rules.

Getting Healthcare for everyone was a stroke of genius.
Getting the troops out of Iraq was masterful.
Bringing the troops from Afghanistan was brilliant.
Putting millions back to work was stupendous.

What do you think?

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Aug 21, 2013 12:54:40   #
eqabellera
 
DocSavage wrote:
Pride. No, A great feeling of Accomplishment yes. I wanted to avoid anything personal, but so many are so naive in their understanding and their own interpretation of the word, as it is written. My time is measured in months. Because my AOD has advanced so rapidly, I'm in great pain daily, but ask nothing for myself. My task is to take what time I have and preach the Gospel. My talent is being able to quote verse applicable to the situation. You know nothing of Pride or would never use that word, And once again, to appease you, I won't mention what Chapter and Verse this is from but will tell you, by judging, don't you ever touch God's anointed, the Pastor that Prophesy's the Word of our Lord is Blessed, and your sin for that attack is one of Blasphemy, Blasphemy to the Pastor, the Church, and to God.
My calling is mostly dedicated to shut-ins as myself, and before you come to know a person you state a judgment of your own perception from what I say, write , and quote, then you should get down on your knees and pray to Christ for forgiveness. I've never judged anyone in this lifetime, yet as the bible says there will be others as yourself, that will sin, and partake in sinful things, and be as an Obstacle, and a Stumbling Block to the Christian way of life, and to say to a Pastor what you have is not only Ludicrous, but ridiculous. Many callings to the Lord is to use their gifts of prophesy, and many is prophesying constantly. Does it not make sense that a Pastor will try to find a relevant Chapter in the Bible, to quote God's word in respect to a certain situation. I've no more time to waste what precious time I have with you or Eqabellera. I have too much work ahead for my shut-in ministry.
I just pray that in Our Lords eyes he forgives you.
N'Christ Jesus
Amen
Pride. No, A great feeling of Accomplishment yes. ... (show quote)



Doc or Pastor, sorry I really don't know how to call you. First, I'm sorry that you are having difficult issues with your health. I hope you get better soon. Also, I want to commend you for your breath of knowledge about the bible and your capacity and talent with such photographic memory.
Since you mentioned me in your last discourse, I am compelled to respond. My initial comments was entirely about what I perceived as a hateful post of yours. You may argue that it wasn't but that was my perception. Besides, it surprised me that a Pastor is getting in the fray of the political discourse especially in this period of great political divide and invoking Jesus Christ in the process. While you are entitled to your own political opinion, I am of the belief and opinion that it should be kept apart from your clerical ministry. Again, that is only an opinion based on the separation of Church and State. In our parish, whenever our minister or deacon talks about politics expressing strong opinions in their homily, I do not walk out. I do however, make it a point to approach them after the service and tell them that their homily was great but it did not belong in the pulpit.
As to what Ms. Alicia posted, I also wholeheartedly agree. In your response to me previously, you began by reciting your military service and the burden you went through, just like others who did not have that honor and privelege do not deserve as much respect given to service persons. Understandably, you are proud of your service both in the military and in your ministry and we are too, but you don't have to rub it in to make a point. That is what I understood where she is coming from. There is a difference between you and her about the concept of pride, yet you accused her of knowing nothing about pride.
You may no longer have anything to do with me, alicia and likely anyone who disagree with you but we want you to know that we are praying for you. We hope God will give you MORE time to continue with your ministry for the shut-ins. Peace be with you. --- eqa

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Aug 21, 2013 13:10:35   #
Sapper Loc: Texas
 
National Healthcare as it reads now is an economic death nell.

We still have troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

And millions back to work is a falacy.

Pffft Try again!

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Aug 21, 2013 13:10:42   #
eqabellera
 
72BADGER wrote:
blocklanes;
I think your material is sarcastically hilarious. I wish you the best as a stand up comedian. Shoot, I bet you could get a job writing for Leno. At the very least with some more great jokes like that one you could win "Last Comic Standing".
Ha ha, you are a riot.


And why is it that you are the only one laughing? blocklanes didn't even mention getting OBL as skillfull.

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Aug 21, 2013 13:25:48   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
eqabellera wrote:
Doc or Pastor, sorry I really don't know how to call you. First, I'm sorry that you are having difficult issues with your health. I hope you get better soon. Also, I want to commend you for your breath of knowledge about the bible and your capacity and talent with such photographic memory.
Since you mentioned me in your last discourse, I am compelled to respond. My initial comments was entirely about what I perceived as a hateful post of yours. You may argue that it wasn't but that was my perception. Besides, it surprised me that a Pastor is getting in the fray of the political discourse especially in this period of great political divide and invoking Jesus Christ in the process. While you are entitled to your own political opinion, I am of the belief and opinion that it should be kept apart from your clerical ministry. Again, that is only an opinion based on the separation of Church and State. In our parish, whenever our minister or deacon talks about politics expressing strong opinions in their homily, I do not walk out. I do however, make it a point to approach them after the service and tell them that their homily was great but it did not belong in the pulpit.
As to what Ms. Alicia posted, I also wholeheartedly agree. In your response to me previously, you began by reciting your military service and the burden you went through, just like others who did not have that honor and privelege do not deserve as much respect given to service persons. Understandably, you are proud of your service both in the military and in your ministry and we are too, but you don't have to rub it in to make a point. That is what I understood where she is coming from. There is a difference between you and her about the concept of pride, yet you accused her of knowing nothing about pride.
You may no longer have anything to do with me, alicia and likely anyone who disagree with you but we want you to know that we are praying for you. We hope God will give you MORE time to continue with your ministry for the shut-ins. Peace be with you. --- eqa
Doc or Pastor, sorry I really don't know how to ca... (show quote)


you have to know that the reason this country is going to hell is because god has been shut out of everything

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Aug 21, 2013 13:47:16   #
eqabellera
 
alex wrote:
you have to know that the reason this country is going to hell is because god has been shut out of everything


There's where you are wrong and we have a difference of opinion...the country is by NO MEANS going to hell Brother. Otherwise, other peoples will not be wanting to come here. The last time I heard is, it is still the GREATEST country in the world and I am proud of it. Let us keep it that way by "disagreeing without being disagreeable".

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Aug 21, 2013 13:54:56   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Man, especially greedy man is responsible for all the mess that has been created, not only in this country but in the world. Religion offers a cop-out for those who don't wish to take responsibility for their own actions. Often expressed is, "It is God's will." Both God and Satan exist in every man. We have free will to choose which way we desire to go. Thinking, "The Devil made me do it" is also a cop-out.

Just look at what man has done to this world! He hunts for greed until an animal species is wiped out (fur coats, whale oil, etc.). The pagans had the right idea of taking only what one needs to sustain life. They appreciated the gifts this universe offers and did not need to have ALL OF IT that exists.

The bible has many good examples but they are all allegory which means they can interpreted to fit any situation. Jesus, a very wise man and an adept primarily preached, "Love, Understanding and Acceptance." Outside of that, all is greed and false pride -- and, of course greed.

In my youth the church consisted of a place to worship (if one desired), a place for the minister, priest, etc. to live. When churches need buildings and offices, they are no longer places of worship. Religion today is a business where those in charge are only concerned with donations in order to keep their businesses going.

I am not against beliefs but I definitely am against churches. All the various sects and beliefs only result in separation. "My belief and God is better than yours and is the only true belief and god."

Remember the initial teachings of Love Acceptance and Understanding (of differences). Respect for differences also goes along with the other three.

I have no desire to change anyone's beliefs over to my own BUT I allow myself the same privilege of having my own beliefs.

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Aug 21, 2013 13:59:42   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Alicia wrote:
Man, especially greedy man is responsible for all the mess that has been created, not only in this country but in the world. Religion offers a cop-out for those who don't wish to take responsibility for their own actions. Often expressed is, "It is God's will." Both God and Satan exist in every man. We have free will to choose which way we desire to go. Thinking, "The Devil made me do it" is also a cop-out.

Just look at what man has done to this world! He hunts for greed until an animal species is wiped out (fur coats, whale oil, etc.). The pagans had the right idea of taking only what one needs to sustain life. They appreciated the gifts this universe offers and did not need to have ALL OF IT that exists.

The bible has many good examples but they are all allegory which means they can interpreted to fit any situation. Jesus, a very wise man and an adept primarily preached, "Love, Understanding and Acceptance." Outside of that, all is greed and false pride -- and, of course greed.

In my youth the church consisted of a place to worship (if one desired), a place for the minister, priest, etc. to live. When churches need buildings and offices, they are no longer places of worship. Religion today is a business where those in charge are only concerned with donations in order to keep their businesses going.

I am not against beliefs but I definitely am against churches. All the various sects and beliefs only result in separation. "My belief and God is better than yours and is the only true belief and god."

Remember the initial teachings of Love Acceptance and Understanding (of differences). Respect for differences also goes along with the other three.

I have no desire to change anyone's beliefs over to my own BUT I allow myself the same privilege of having my own beliefs.
Man, especially greedy man is responsible for all ... (show quote)


Do you see someone challenging you to change your beliefs, and are you saying you don't challenge others to change theirs?

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Aug 21, 2013 14:11:19   #
DeePools Loc: America's Heartland
 
Alicia wrote:
Man, especially greedy man is responsible for all the mess that has been created, not only in this country but in the world. Religion offers a cop-out for those who don't wish to take responsibility for their own actions. Often expressed is, "It is God's will." Both God and Satan exist in every man. We have free will to choose which way we desire to go. Thinking, "The Devil made me do it" is also a cop-out.

Just look at what man has done to this world! He hunts for greed until an animal species is wiped out (fur coats, whale oil, etc.). The pagans had the right idea of taking only what one needs to sustain life. They appreciated the gifts this universe offers and did not need to have ALL OF IT that exists.

The bible has many good examples but they are all allegory which means they can interpreted to fit any situation. Jesus, a very wise man and an adept primarily preached, "Love, Understanding and Acceptance." Outside of that, all is greed and false pride -- and, of course greed.

In my youth the church consisted of a place to worship (if one desired), a place for the minister, priest, etc. to live. When churches need buildings and offices, they are no longer places of worship. Religion today is a business where those in charge are only concerned with donations in order to keep their businesses going.

I am not against beliefs but I definitely am against churches. All the various sects and beliefs only result in separation. "My belief and God is better than yours and is the only true belief and god."

Remember the initial teachings of Love Acceptance and Understanding (of differences). Respect for differences also goes along with the other three.

I have no desire to change anyone's beliefs over to my own BUT I allow myself the same privilege of having my own beliefs.
Man, especially greedy man is responsible for all ... (show quote)


Wonderfully stated Alicia!

I interpret the words in the Bible very different from the dogma spewed by those that claim religious authority. Jesus said it best "The Kingdom of God is Within"

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Aug 21, 2013 15:45:59   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
I truly have no desire to change peoples thinking. I do respect their differences.

I was quite amazed when I first came to the city I am presently living in, to discover that, upon exchanging first names with a neighbor, I was asked which church I attended. I've lived in a few cities and never experienced this before and found it quite shocking. Even before expressing the fact that I don't attend church, I was always invited to accompany them to THEIR church.

I have often expressed the truth that I carry my church in my heart. I always give thanks for the good that happens to me and find it impossible to remember the negative.

A neighbor once asked me if I did not need reinforcement of my beliefs. My response was, "I know what I believe and therefore, I do not require reinforcement." Perhaps by bringing someone new into their church is their form of reinforcement?

I must admit that some of my thoughts may change tomorrow, if I find something new that I have been introduced into, is worthwhile and educating. I'm always open to new philosophies but please do not attempt to convince me of religious dogma. I am a free thinker.

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Aug 21, 2013 15:57:48   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Alicia wrote:
I truly have no desire to change peoples thinking. I do respect their differences.

I was quite amazed when I first came to the city I am presently living in, to discover that, upon exchanging first names with a neighbor, I was asked which church I attended. I've lived in a few cities and never experienced this before and found it quite shocking. Even before expressing the fact that I don't attend church, I was always invited to accompany them to THEIR church.

I have often expressed the truth that I carry my church in my heart. I always give thanks for the good that happens to me and find it impossible to remember the negative.

A neighbor once asked me if I did not need reinforcement of my beliefs. My response was, "I know what I believe and therefore, I do not require reinforcement." Perhaps by bringing someone new into their church is their form of reinforcement?

I must admit that some of my thoughts may change tomorrow, if I find something new that I have been introduced into, is worthwhile and educating. I'm always open to new philosophies but please do not attempt to convince me of religious dogma. I am a free thinker.
I truly have no desire to change peoples thinking.... (show quote)


Drawing any conclusions from the acts of one neighbor in a new city would seem shallow at best.

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Aug 21, 2013 17:53:55   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Had it been just one neighbor I would have forgotten it. I constantly come across this type of person in this city. I am presently living in the bible belt. My fault because I didn't do my homework before relocating.

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Aug 21, 2013 18:45:04   #
bahmer
 
Alicia wrote:
Had it been just one neighbor I would have forgotten it. I constantly come across this type of person in this city. I am presently living in the bible belt. My fault because I didn't do my homework before relocating.


If you can find it in your heart this is just their friendly way of welcoming you to their neighborhood. In some parts of the country they may throw a block party or have you over to meet the neighborhood during a festivity say like Christmas or Thanksgiving. They are just trying to be friendly in their way and you shouldn't take offense at them.

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Aug 21, 2013 19:25:27   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Alicia wrote:
Had it been just one neighbor I would have forgotten it. I constantly come across this type of person in this city. I am presently living in the bible belt. My fault because I didn't do my homework before relocating.


Alicia your problem probably stems from your 'Progessiveism'. It seems to affect people of low tolerance to those that don't adhere to their Progressive hypothesis'. Your skin is too thin. You also don't want others to believe differently than you. Sorry.

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Aug 22, 2013 04:46:34   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
eqabellera wrote:
As stated in response to another post, if only he is eligible for a third term, I will vigorously campaign and vote for him again. Too bad conservatives see only the negatives as evidenced by Newt Gingrich recent statement to the GOP, "Stop being so negative and look at doing something positive".


Who let this kool-aid drinking taxpaying leeching moron in here?

Another TOOL to vote this country onto the road of collective serfdom.

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