eagleye13 Loc: Fl

That is not true for everyonem sUp.

Bidens' money trail to Russia, China, and Ukraine exposed
https://youtu.be/YGcKDTqhGM0

Here’s a short list of Biden’s magnificent accomplishments.
▪ a collapsing stock market,
▪ government overreach and expansion,
▪ out of control national debt and increased government spending,
▪ politically weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA,
▪ the diluting of our educational standards and educational system,
▪ crippling the American energy industry,
▪ stifling small businesses and business in general,
▪ increasing prices of goods and essentials outpacing wage increases for the middle class,
▪ continued tax increases across the board,
▪ the ongoing fight to limit or deny our Constitutional rights,
▪ increased crime and reduced penalties for said crimes,
▪ a nation without borders,
▪ ignoring our national immigration laws and rewarding the violators,
▪ government (Ds and Rs) ignoring and violating their oath of office to protect our citizens and this nation,
▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support wars that are not in our national interest,
▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support enemy nations,
▪ officials violating their oath of office by aiding and abetting our self professed enemies by handing them billons of dollars of hi-tech weapons and military equipment making them one of the top fighting forces in the world,
▪ providing favors and information to long term national enemies in turn for self riches,
▪ a weakening and unprepared military, and
▪ government attacking, demonizing and penalizing American citizens for exercising their freedom of speech.


Bidens' money trail to Russia, China, and Ukraine exposed
https://youtu.be/YGcKDTqhGM0

straightUp Loc: California

I think it's a fair assessment, generally speaking.


*ALL* conspiracy theories claim to expose crimes and shenanigans.


So you gotta list of gripes, exaggerations and conspiracy theories... Now what? Ya gonna do a dance too?


Yeah, you posted that already. ;)

Consider what witless was mentioning earlier... He was talking about a focus on policy. He also brought up the executive orders. What better way to start? I agree with him that if we are discussing potential presidents we should be focused on their policies. Although judging by your list, I suspect you might be concerned about bigger things than presidential races. If this is about ideology for you, the presidential race will only be a distraction.

Check out the national register https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders. That'll give you a list of "magnificent accomplishments" by both of them and *THESE* accomplishments" actually have their signature on them.

pescado rojo

You should learn to check sources before you pontificate. Florida had a slightly higher per capita death rate from Covid than California.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm

Bear in mind that Florida also has a higher population of the most at risk group, 20% as opposed to 14%.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/elderly-population-by-state.html

Some of us do research while others post self-serving, misinformed opinions.

pescado rojo

Here is what US law, NOT James Comey, (who is several million dollars richer as a direct result of his relationship with Hillary Clinton,) has to say....
18 USC 798
32 CFR

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798

https://www.dcsa.mil/Portals/91/Documents/news/ISOO_Notice_2020-02.pdf?ver=2020-08-26-112753-390

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/5/1312.28

"Intent" has nothing to do with it.

Smedley_buzkill

I finally had some time to waste on answering your childish feces-fest. I believe you said

"I'm not you buzzy... I use a wide range of sources to triangulate. It's different from subscription loyalty. You should try it. As for development, it doesn't matter that it CAN take as little as 4 or 5 years, the average is over 10. And since most of the oil we have left is in reserves that require additional technologies, like fracking, the odds lean heavy on MORE than 10 years."

You certainly aren't me. You claim to "use a wide range of sources to triangulate," but you never bother to list them. I would say that is because they only exist in what passes for your brain.

Also from the febrile imagination of one straightUp:


"So if the federal government cancels the student debt, it's added to the deficit, then probably piled on the national debt and yes, the tax payers will have to pay for it. The bankers love that. They get all the money for free and the interest probably makes up for the 10% they needed in reserves.


"If the federal government can negotiate a debt cancellation with the Federal Reserve... I believe we could deflate the money supply and return value to each dollar. The bankers in the Fed would be the ones eating the debt, but that money was never earned. If they can snap their fingers and make $30,000 appear out of thin air. They can snap their fingers and make $30,000 disappear and nothing earned will have been lost."

Wonderful idea. I wonder why they haven't used that solution for income tax?


I believe this statement also belongs to you...

"OK, wiseguy - here's why I think your trip about sources is BS. You use sources as a crutch, because you're not smart enough, or too lazy (I don't know which) to actually have this conversation with me using your own brain power. So you search for headlines that YOU think will provide smart answers to my challenges. I can tell because you don't actually make the slightest reference to the content... You don't summarize or explain anything about the article. When I use sources it's to provide a reference to what I am basing my argument on. You don't provide an argument. The ONLY thing you provide is a link to a headline that *seems* relevant.

Don't it personally, it's what I tell everyone that does that."

I use sources as a tool to provide proof of your lies and misinformed opinion. Doubtless you, with your ersatz omniscience, simply make shit up and call it fact, because you aren't smart enough to do the research. My answers to your "challenges" are documented fact; I can understand why someone with your tenuous acquaintance with veracity might consider your maunderings "challenges." Unfortunately, that reality does not extend past your own opinion. You obviously can't understand explanations, so why would I summarize for you? Are you too stupid, lazy or inept to summarize something for yourself when you have to read the entire thing?

I really don't know why I am wasting my time on an immature, self-centered, puerile and bigoted bozo, but don't take it personally, it's what I tell everyone that does that, except I remember to type "take."

straightUp Loc: California

I wasn't pontificating. I was going by a different dataset.
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/

From here I was taking the total population of each state and dividing it by the number of Covid-related deaths for that state. That's the basic method for getting a per capita estimate.

Total Covid-related deaths in California was 102,356 according to that report. Total population in California is 39 million. So 39,000,000 / 102,356 = 1 death per 381 people (per capita)

Total Covid-related deaths in Florida was 89,075 according to that report. Total population in Florida is 22.24 million. So, 22,240,000 / 89,075 = 1 death per 250 people (per capita)

I may have exaggerated slightly when I said "twice as much"... I'll own that. A more accurate assessment is that the Covid death rate per capita in California is only 66% of what it was in Florida.

Regarding the CDC report... Those numbers are processed further to extrapolate more specific conclusions, such as being adjusted for age. The report is also limited to data from 2020 and 2021. 2022 is excluded. AND there is this disclaimer at the bottom of the report...

"Although adjusted for differences in age-distribution and population size, rankings by state do not take into account other state specific population characteristics that may affect the level of mortality."

Not that it matters in the end because my point still stands, even with your data... California is a better job of protecting its people.


I don't see how that matters... If you have more at-risk people, all the reason to be more cautious. It seems that your answer is "well, they were at more risk anyway so that's our excuse".


It looks like I DID do research. And you are the one scanning for numbers that suit your opinions better without considering the context.

son of witless

Biden's worst early executive orders.

https://thepostmillennial.com/bidens-top-10-worst-executive-orders/

1) What ever you think about abortion in the US, we should not be giving money to groups pushing abortion in other countries.

2) Cancelling the Keystone Pipeline over Global Fracking Warming. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

3) We don't need critical race theory brain washing our school children.

4) Fake girls get to beat up real girls in girls sports.

5) Fake girls get to be GI Joes.

6) Minimum wage. Masks have proven to be a failure.

7) A bone to Tony Fauuci.

8) I can't prove it, but perhaps this is all of these anti Israel protesters are in America and causing trouble.

9) No problemo here. This is obviously part of Joe's bungling of immigration policy.

10) A continuation of number 9's stupidity.

straightUp Loc: California

I thought you were going to dispute my point. But I guess your attempts to insult me is the best you can do. As for listing sources... I often do when citing specifics. Not so much when stating things that I think are obvious. I've known that leases take on average of around 10 years to develop for long time now. I can't even remember the specific sources from where I got that information. It was probably back when Bush was in office.

Also, just to point out your hypocrisy... you didn't list a source when you said a lease can take as little as 4 to 5 years to develop. Not that it mattered because even then, Biden's policies haven't been around for 4 to 5 years so clearly, his policy would STILL not have prevented a new lease from producing oil today or three years ago when you twits were first blaming inflation on Biden's energy policy.


How would that apply to income tax? The Federal Reserve is the ONLY entity that can print money and it has nothing to do with income tax. Tax is not debt anyway.


Well, keep it up... One of these days it might actually work. As for my comment, I was generalizing, based on the behavior of many members here on OPP, not just you. That is why I told you not to take it personally.


"ersatz omniscience"... awesome.

So, making stuff up and calling it fact just isn't my thing, man. Maybe you're referring to my theories. Easy to point them out because I will always use the correct context and use phrases like "I think", "I would suspect", "I wouldn't be surprised:, or even something like "very high probability". Those are theories and yes, I make a lot of it up.

See now, if you can sit down maybe have some tea... we can have theoretical discussions but it's hard to do when you keep jumping to yer guns.


yeah... I can feel your anger building up as I read your response. I hope you're ok. So many old geezers here, I worry a conversation is going to give them a heart attack.

padremike says I make him sweat.

Look, I don't know why you got so upset with my challenge... I don't even remember what you're referring to but I do challenge what people say, and when their response is to throw URLs at you... that's being lazy... OR incapable. You can get all snippy and insulting if you like, it doesn't bother me. But it doesn't change what I said either.

straightUp Loc: California

I think there is a difference in our perspective that we both need to recognize. You often use phrases like "pushing abortion", as if the liberal laws or the money are being used to force or sell abortion. If that were the case, I would agree with you. But I don't think that is the case, I think the liberal laws and money are being used to defend women from other legislators that are funneling money into efforts to ban abortion. So I stand on the side of liberty as in personal and medical options not taken away by prohibitive laws.

As for this being funded by US tax-dollars for the benefit of women outside the U.S. I dunno, I think there's a national interest issue there if that's actually what the EO is stupilating.

I'm noticing that none of these 10 "executive orders" have numbers... and their titles don't match anything either... So I'll not respond to the others in the list, there's just too much ambiguity.

I'm looking at the national register that records the actual orders. Can we start there?

PeterS

1)If Trump is elected do you think he will be content with only 4 years?

2)If Trump isn't elected then he will claim fraud as he did last time and this time when he tells his people to come to Washington wanna bet that he tells them to come with their guns?

So tell me, how we lose no matter who is elected? Biden still believes in Democracy something Trump proved he didn't when he claimed fraud in the last election well before the first vote was even cast...

Rose42

Though I won’t vote for trump its not because of the left’s narratives. I don’t buy into them.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

D8d you stand on liberty when it comes to the covid jab

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

straightUp Loc: California

Yes, I did. As far as I was concerned, if people want to believe conspiracy theorists instead of doctors that's their own business. I got the jab and it was 100% voluntary. No one forced me.

I also wore a mask in public spaces in case I was carrying the virus because I didn't want to spread it, especially when vaccines weren't available to children. After I felt that everyone had a chance to vaccinate, I stopped wearing a mask because if I spread the virus to someone who was too stupid to vaccinate, that's their problem.

There's a lot of morons out there that thought people were wearing masks to protect themselves but they bigger reason is to protect others. So, I wasn't surprised to find that the most selfish and ignorant Americans were the ones refusing to wear masks.

I will say this though... The rampant spread of stupidity during the pandemic was a declaration to the world that in the coming age of biological warfare, America will be among the weakest nations on Earth. With half the nation being so stupid we will not able to defend ourselves against a weaponized virus.

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

" Biden still believes in Democracy something Trump proved he didn't when he claimed fraud in the last election well before the first vote was even cast..." - PeterS
Damn you have a thick cranium, Petey.
Numb and pickled for sure.