One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
What the Top Two Issues For Each Side Tell Us
Page <<first <prev 13 of 29 next> last>>
Apr 28, 2024 18:25:48   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Radiance3 wrote:
=============
No worries, I addressed that to StraightUp.


OK, he is thick skinned and has a quick mind... all is OK..

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:27:22   #
Radiance3
 
permafrost wrote:
OH Rad.. I know I said to never bother you again... but darn I just can't help it... Abortions tend to be pretty private matters and not blabbed about with guys in particular.. but I do know or did know 3 women who had an abortion. 2 of them told me, one told nearly everyone.. of the two, one is a very strong Republican and yet very much prochoice for all women.... so yes, republican women do have sex and some get preggers and some need to terminate.. it has always been that way and always will be..

OK.. now back to not bothering you.. sorry about it...
OH Rad.. I know I said to never bother you again.... (show quote)

================
Now you are lying to me!

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:29:28   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
straightUp wrote:
I haven't seen this claim before but it sounds like another red herring. First of all, about 90% of the dollars in circulation are digital (not printed). So all of a sudden we're talking about 8 out of every 100 dollars. Secondly, the average lifespan of a dollar bill is 6.6 years, with other denominations being pretty close to the same. So now your point has pretty lost all it potency, as all the printed money in circulation typically gets swapped out within the span of one president (serving two terms) anyway.

Right-wing media is a treasure chest of these little zingers designed to fool people like you.
I haven't seen this claim before but it sounds lik... (show quote)


A treasure chest of carefully crafted and deliberately skewed news bits.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:30:43   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
LindaK wrote:
More violence. Just what we need in these disruptive times. Wow.

it was a rare moment and it was only a half-serious warning. I kind of knew him, so I took the liberty. And it worked.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:31:18   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
My number one is UNITING THE COUNTRY


I'm partial to saving democracy.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:31:24   #
LindaK
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
Well, the illegals are wearing Biden shirts when entering our country.


Biden’s illegals are looking forward to how many more benefits/rights Biden will hand them until he’s out of power come 2025.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:32:11   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
A treasure chest of carefully crafted and deliberately skewed news bits.

yup

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:32:28   #
Cornflakes Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns for Biden supporters and the top two concerns for Trump supporters. The poll indicates that among strong Biden supporters, the top two issues are... Abortion and Uniting the Country.

Regardless of how you feel about abortion, the fact remains that this is a big concern for many. The second thing to note is that there is a very clear and feasible path for overriding the Supreme Court by passing a law through Congress that guarantees a woman's right to choose. Efforts are already underway to make this happen and Biden has resolved to support the effort.

Again... not arguing whether it's right or wrong, just pointing out that this change is within political reach. The plan already underway *IS* feasible, which is giving the Biden supporters a good reason to vote for him.

The second one, uniting the country, is something I would say is NOT within political reach. This may be a top concern for Biden supporters but whether or not Biden can actually do something about it, is in my opinion, doubtful. The divide is cultural and runs too deep. It may have metastasized into politics under Trump but he certainly didn't create it... Trump was leveraging the divide that was already there, which is something we've never seen a president do before. Trump was the first president to openly favor one half of the American people over the other half and I think avoiding another one-sided presidency is what drives this concern.

Moving over to the other side, the poll indicates that among Trump supporters, the top two issues are... Inflation and Competency.

Personally, I agree with the Trump supporters that inflation is the most pressing issue for most of us, but much like the cultural divide, I think inflation is something that no president can do much about. There are of course lot's of politically motivated theories and baseless accusations that push the narrative that Biden caused inflation, but an honest assessment of our post-pandemic economy, the free market and the banking system will tell us that inflation is being driven by forces that are almost entirely outside presidential control.

Finally, there is competency... a top concern for the first time ever. Perhaps this is because our choice in 2024 is between the two oldest presidential candidates in our history. But it's only a top concern for Trump supporters. Well, Biden *is* four years older, but for his supporters it's not a top concern. For them, Biden seems to have proven himself over the last three years to be fully competent with his decisions, despite his age, his geriatric walk and his stammering at the podium. Some of his supporters also know that he has assembled the youngest administration in history and that he actually listens to them.

On the Trump side, where the concern is elevated to the top notches, it's hard not to see it as a vindictive stab for the constant questioning of Trump's competency during his term. But there is also the fact that right-wing media obscures the very things that assures Biden supporters of their candidates competency, while honing in on his stammering and anything else that emphasizes his age.

I also want to point out that political moves rarely satisfy everyone. Any move a president makes will be strongly opposed by some and regardless of how competent the move might actually be, it's become normal for those in opposition to call it an incompetent move.

So what these four concerns tell us is that Biden supporters are more tuned into reality, with the only concern out of the four that can actually be affected by their supported candidate and the other concern being the only one out of the four that can be avoided by NOT voting for opposing candidate. The Trump supporters seem to be entirely driven by their dislike toward the opponent with one concern that neither of the candidates can fix (so why would it even be an election issue?) and one concern about the opposing candidates (competency) that strongly suggests the concern *should* be about the supporters themselves.
A recent NBC News Poll lists the top two concerns ... (show quote)


STUp; how many times did you have to get up from the keyboard, down another drink and laugh yourself silly whilst typing this parrot poop onto the thread and how come it makes even less of an impression with every one of your dingbat posts 🤪

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:33:34   #
LindaK
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I won't dignify "NBC" poll with a rebuttal. As for kneecapping the fossil fuel industry, Biden has leased fewer acres of land than any president in US history.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/federal-oil-leases-slow-to-a-trickle-under-biden-11662230816

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/20/climate/biden-drilling-federal-lands.html

As for "canceling" student debt... Not one dollar is canceled. Someone, namely the taxpayers, is going to pony up. There ain't no free lunch. The debt is not canceled, just shifted to people who didn't incur it in the first place.

Let us not forget that real wages have fallen under Biden. They have not kept up with price increases to the point where the average family of four makes less money, adjusted for inflation than under Trump. It reminds me of Obama's touting of 2013 employment numbers. He forgot to mention that over 70% of those jobs were part time.

https://www.investopedia.com/inflation-rate-by-year-7253832
I won't dignify "NBC" poll with a rebutt... (show quote)





Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:35:25   #
LindaK
 
okie don wrote:
~~~~~~~
Jim,
You probably know this but Saul Alinsky called himself a " Community Organizer" like Obama. Alinsky died in 1972 in California. He grew up in Chicago and reportedly hung out around Mafia type characters.
I just read a 51 page pamphlet written by David Horowitz in 2009. Obama was president in 2008.
A really interesting booklet on Alinsky and Obama.


Plus Hillary wrote her college thesis on old Saul.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:44:52   #
Justice101
 
permafrost wrote:
Do you think those 17 republican state truly expect a win, or they suck trumps hind tit???

The nancy try ended about a year ago.. nothing at all..


The "Nancy try" was what ended Idiot Joe's first attempt with the SCOTUS on his tail. He got trounced.
I bet that Idiot Joe will get trounced again on his second try to forgive debt and buy votes.
He is so fricken wasteful with his Unconstitutional bullsh*t.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:49:34   #
okie don
 
permafrost wrote:
???????? Rothschilds??????? OK, I must need more coffee..


You know Perm
The $34.4 TRILLION we have borrowed.
The yearly interest on this outstanding debt is enormous.
We abandoned a shit pot load of ar ament in Afghanistan.
No sweat,the taxpaying sheeple with pay the tab.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:52:14   #
okie don
 
We all thank China Joe for this.
Guess he's hired more IRS employees on the US payroll.
No sweat Perm, the US taxpayers will pay their salaries.
On and on it goes.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:58:47   #
Justice101
 
LindaK wrote:
Plus Hillary wrote her college thesis on old Saul.


May I add that Senator Robert Byrd, Exalted Cyclops of the KKK was Hillary's mentor.

Reply
Apr 28, 2024 18:58:50   #
LindaK
 
America 1 wrote:
The U.S. inflation rate jumped from 1.7% in 2017 under President Donald Trump to 14% in 2021 under President Joe Biden.
After a 30-year dormant period, inflation reemerged in 2021, becoming the biggest challenge of Joe Biden’s presidency.
Inflation has now dropped far below its 2022 peak, but many prices that went up have stayed up, and Americans are peeved about food, rent, and transportation costs that seem to be taking a permanently bigger bite out of their paychecks.

The scarring effects of inflation have fueled a kind of nostalgia regarding Donald Trump’s presidency, from 2017 to 2021.
In a recent NBC News poll, 40% of respondents said Trump’s presidency was better than expected, a higher portion saying so than when NBC asked the same question in 2018.
Voters consistently say they trust Trump more than Biden on the economy, a crucial deficit for Biden given that the two men are vying for the presidency once again this year.
The U.S. inflation rate jumped from 1.7% in 2017 u... (show quote)



Agree. Plus when the Trump haters began their attacks on the Trump economy during the time Fauci falsely represented himself as being ‘Mr science’ even a most outspoken Clinton adviser, said ‘it’s all about the economy, stupid’. Apparently he believes Biden really needs to pay attention to how much he’s spending.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 13 of 29 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.