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Apr 24, 2024 12:39:25   #
martsiva
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Which part of the Bible do you want to follow? The Ten Commandments? Or the two Jesus gave us? The rules laid down in Genesis 21-25? Or those in the Sermon on the Mount?
I know my preference. DWJWD


Tell us what 2 did Jesus gave us??

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Apr 24, 2024 13:14:58   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
Can Trump or any of you Trump-worshiping Christians compare to Jimmy or Rosalynn?




I suggest that PeterS help make America Great Again by leaving.

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Apr 24, 2024 13:26:37   #
Proud American Patriot
 
son of witless wrote:
I am impressed. My challenges, meager as they are do not get accepted in the main by you good folks on the Left. Your honesty is appreciated. It's like when I am forced to admit to having senior moments just like President Biden, but then I do not have millions of lives in my hands.

Oh speaking of Joe's senior moments, did you hear, did you hear the latest ? This is just too good to not repeat. The writers on SNL can't write stuff like this.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-mocked-admitting-cant-trusted-latest-gaffe-agreed-joe

" "I don’t know why we’re surprised by Trump. How many times does he have to prove we can't be trusted?" Biden said. "
I am impressed. My challenges, meager as they are ... (show quote)


The first truth he ever told.

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Apr 24, 2024 13:54:13   #
martsiva
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Why Jimmy Carter Owes the Iranian People an Apology

by Lisa Daftari
Jul 18, 2023

Much of the Western world has celebrated the post presidency life of Jimmy Carter.

Whether framing homes for Habitat for Humanity, selectively crusading for human rights, or teaching Sunday school in Plains, Ga., Carter has tried for four decades to overcome the bitter setbacks that culminated in the disappointment of his one-term presidency.

Now 98, the former president announced in February that he would enter end-of-life care at home without seeking additional medical intervention. He's reportedly in good spirits, eating ice cream and visiting with friends.

It seems an enviable end to a long life. Still, there's one thing the 39th president needs to do to rectify his legacy from his time in office.

Carter owes the people of Iran an apology.

Carter's critics always point to his handling of the Iran hostage crisis as the most glaring flaw in his time in office. During the course of that 444-day nightmare, a student mob held 52 U.S. diplomats and civilians hostage, and no amount of negotiation—or attempted military action—could get them released. Thankfully, that sad chapter finally ended on Jan. 20, 1980, the day President Ronald Reagan took the oath of office at the U.S. Capitol.

But Carter's true transgression—the original sin that has complicated and shaped U.S. policy in the Middle East ever since—preceded that. Carter's gravest mistake was his disastrous undermining and lack of support for the legitimate ruler of Iran, Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, who was waging a valiant battle against leukemia as the revolution unfolded in his country.

To be fair, Carter had plenty of assistance in his geopolitical blunder. His State Department seemed to effectively encourage the growing protests against the shah's reign, which came to a head when Sec. of State Cyrus Vance announced that the shah would leave on "vacation" for an indefinite period. But the final responsibility lies with Carter, who saw fundamentalist sharks circling an ailing shah and helped engineer the rise of his disastrous successor by putting his trust in the exiled, soon-to-be leader of the Islamic Republic, Khomeini, and throwing the shah, a decades-long U.S. ally, under the bus.

When the administration announced Carter would meet with European heads of state in January 1979, the shah rightly understood that his departure from power was main item on the agenda. Eleven days later, out of options, he fled his own country. At that point, the fundamentalist takeover was all but inevitable.

Of course, now we know the rest of the story. In 2016, the BBC obtained documents detailing how the "Carter administration paved the way" for Khomeini's return to Iran from exile. Carter administration officials familiar with the BBC report have not challenged its authenticity. Supporting the toppling of shah was an historic blunder, one with reverberations that are still felt throughout Iran and the rest of the Middle East to this day.

By indulging the impulse to remove the shah and putting his confidence behind an outspoken cleric over a proven friend of the U.S., Carter consigned Iran to a brutal, fundamentalist, oppressive regime that has systematically annihilated the Persian culture, its economy, and the human dignity of its people ever since.


(And today, that brutal fundamentalist has ramped up Iran's goal of exterminating the Jews and wiping Israel off the map.)

For more than four decades, the Iranian people have attempted to tell their story to the world. It is the story of a proud civilization, successor to the great Persian Empire, that fell prey to America's partisan political machine and as a result, has fallen backward in time.

Ironically, Carter blamed the shah of Iran for not meeting the progressive standards of the West. So, instead, he threw the Iranian people into the clutches of those who execute children, rape women, and throw innocent dancers, journalists, and bloggers behind bars merely for self-expression and free speech.

Where my mother received multiple academic scholarships to attend university in the 1970s, women are now considered to have half the value of a man in Iran's Sharia courts.

Flash forward to today, and the shameful harvest of Carter's abject failure to support the shah is more evident than ever before. As has been widely reported, Iran's brutal morality police arrested 22-year-old Mahsa Amini in September for the crime of not wearing her hijab in the approved manner. Despite a police coverup that claimed she died of a heart attack, eyewitnesses reported she'd been bludgeoned and battered. Her murder triggered a wave of #WomanLifeFreedom protests that continue to this day, eclipsing the protests of 2009, 2017, and 2019. Human rights groups report at least 522 protesters have been killed, including at least 70 minors. This time around, the Iranian people are united in their endeavor, which is regime change.

Like myself, many of the protesters were born after the Revolution and never lived under the shah's reign. Now, in the colorful and often rhyming political slogans shouted out on the streets, Iranians are fondly remembering the shah and even his father, chanting "Reza Shah, bless your soul." They're also asking the son of the shah, exiled Prince Reza Pahlavi, who currently lives outside Washington, D.C., to return to Iran as their potential leader.

More than two-thirds of Iran's 80-plus million people are under the age of 40. For these Iranians, as for myself, there is a second-generation nostalgia for the Iran they have learned about through their parents' stories. They know it wasn't perfect, but compared to life under the current regime, it was utopia.

With no end in sight for the malignant fundamentalist regime in Tehran, it is indeed the case that Iran and the world are owed a profound, heartfelt apology.

It should come from Jimmy Carter.

Lisa Daftari is director and founding editor of TheForeignDesk.com, an online platform offering news and analysis on stories around the globe. Fluent in Persian, Spanish, and English, her parents left Iran to flee fundamentalist persecution.
b Why Jimmy Carter Owes the Iranian People an Apo... (show quote)


I certainly have no love for the rulers in Iran and their oppressive rule but in reality they came to power because of the CIA and Kermit Roosevelt`s interference in Iran in the mid 50s against the true ruler of Iran Mohammed Mossadegh, who was democratically elected by the Iranian people, because he wanted to nationalize Iran`s resources for the Iranian people. By doing so he cut the hold British Petroleum had on Iran`s oil reserves so BP went crying to the US which brought about all the propaganda against Mossadegh to get him ousted so they could get in their puppet, the Shah. The Revolution came about because of him trying to Westernize Iran and his brutal use of his Savak against those who protested against these changes. I read about this years ago so I looked it up again and found it on History.com. There is also an article in the Guardian where CIA admits their role in the coup against Mossadegh for British Petroleum. Now tell me how different this is from what was used against duly elected Yanukovych in Ukraine because he was a friend of Moscow.

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Apr 24, 2024 13:58:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
martsiva wrote:
In other word you do NOT believe the word of God in the bible. We all know you are a fraud when you say you follow Jesus and support when He condemns and now you have just confirmed it. I would love to see your interpretation of Sodom and Gomorrah or Lot and his daughters since you deny the word of God.


Marti, how much do you really know or remember about what the Bible says from actually reading it?

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Apr 24, 2024 14:00:54   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
martsiva wrote:
Tell us what 2 did Jesus gave us??


You don't know?
Love God with all your heart , soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself

If you can remember and do only those two things you will never break another of the Ten handed down to Moses on Mt. Sinai.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:10:22   #
Rose42
 
NotMAGA wrote:
You don't know?
Love God with all your heart , soul and mind and love your neighbor as yourself

If you can remember and do only those two things you will never break another of the Ten handed down to Moses on Mt. Sinai.


No one who has ever lived has been capable of doing that except for Jesus.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:12:42   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Rose42 wrote:
No one who has ever lived has been capable of doing that except for Jesus.


He challenges us all to do it. We are supposed to try.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:22:32   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Whatever he did or didn't do as president, he has more than atoned for it with the rest of his life.


No he hasnt.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:26:22   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
WEBCO wrote:
No he hasnt.


Ok, in my OPINION he has TRIED to atone.

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Apr 24, 2024 15:27:50   #
Unintended Consequences
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Just letting you know I reported this comment to admin as vicious lies about two people who certainly don't deserve it.



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Apr 24, 2024 15:34:42   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:


Seriously?

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Apr 24, 2024 15:55:28   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Can Trump or any of you Trump-worshiping Christians compare to Jimmy or Rosalynn?

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[I] Jimmy Carter is 3rd worst president of the United States. Second is Barack Obama, and 1st is Joe Biden. They were all Democrat Marxist.

Biden, Barack, and Jimmy Carter have not done any charitable donations.

Donald Trump who has done hundreds of millions of dollars.
Here are the following charities Donald Trump and his Foundation has donated. These are just few of them but there are hundreds more that are not listed here.

Partial List of grants reported by the Trump's Foundation Center. The following lists are incomplete.

The following were reported to the Foundation Center during the year 2006:

United Way of New York City – $250,000
Operation Smile – $117,000
Dana Farber Cancer Institute – $60,000
Police Athletic League of New York – $60,000
Intrepid Museum Foundation – $50,000
Visiting Nurse and Hospice Care – $25,000
Metropolitan Museum of Art – $15,000
The following grants were reported to the Foundation Center during the year 2007:

Police Athletic League of New York – $110,000
Fisher House Foundation of Maryland – $100,000
New York-Presbyterian Hospital – $100,000
Metropolitan Golf Association Foundation – $50,000
Dana Farber Cancer Institute – $25,000
Disabled Veterans LIFE Memorial Foundation of Florida – $25,000
Joe Torre Safe at Home Foundation of New York – $25,000
New York City Police Foundation – $25,000
Palm Beach Police Department of Florida – $25,000
The Palm Beach Post has listed some additional recipients, as "a few of the larger donations made by the foundation through the years":
Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan’s Purse – $135,000
Leukemia and Lymphoma Society – $50,000
Drumthwacket Foundation – $40,000
Citizens United Foundation – $100,000

Liberty Central Inc. – $10,000 in 2010
Citizens Against Government Waste – $10,000 in 2010
Billy Graham Evangelistic Association – $50,000 in 2012
American Conservative Union – $50,00 in 2013
Family Leader Foundation – $20,000 in 2013 and 2014
Citizens United Foundation – $100,000 in 2014
In 2010, the Trump Foundation made a $10,000 contribution to Jenny McCarthy's Generation Rescue, an organization that promotes vaccine hesitancy.

Partial List of grants reported by the Foundation Center
The foundation's annual IRS Form 990 filing would normally contain the full list of grants made by the foundation.[1][2][3] The following lists are incomplete.

The following were reported to the Foundation Center during the year 2006:[4]

United Way of New York City – $250,000
Operation Smile – $117,000
Dana Farber Cancer Institute – $60,000
Police Athletic League of New York – $60,000
Intrepid Museum Foundation – $50,000
Visiting Nurse and Hospice Care – $25,000
Metropolitan Museum of Art – $15,000
The following grants were reported to the Foundation Center during the year 2007:[5]

Police Athletic League of New York – $110,000
Fisher House Foundation of Maryland – $100,000
New York-Presbyterian Hospital – $100,000
Metropolitan Golf Association Foundation – $50,000
Dana Farber Cancer Institute – $25,000
Disabled Veterans LIFE Memorial Foundation of Florida – $25,000
Joe Torre Safe at Home Foundation of New York – $25,000
New York City Police Foundation – $25,000
Palm Beach Police Department of Florida – $25,000
The Palm Beach Post has listed some additional recipients, as "a few of the larger donations made by the foundation through the years":[6]

Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and Samaritan’s Purse – $135,000
Leukemia and Lymphoma Society – $50,000
Drumthwacket Foundation – $40,000
Citizens United Foundation – $100,000



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Apr 24, 2024 16:03:09   #
martsiva
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Marti, how much do you really know or remember about what the Bible says from actually reading it?


Nope - no deflecting from my challenge this time. YOU were the one who said there was lot to take apart in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot`s wife and daughters so tell us.

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Apr 24, 2024 16:09:05   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ok, in my OPINION he has TRIED to atone.


He was a good person, just a horrible president

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