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Apr 22, 2024 19:34:45   #
Knightlady
 
EmilyD wrote:
Unless it's laced with Fentanyl, Heroin or some other substance that makes it more addictive!! And believe me, that stuff is circulating all over the US with drug cartels running their businesses right at the border!

Kids and young adults don't care where they get their pot. And when someone shows up at their school - usually at games where there is a lot of activity - and sell their stuff under the bleaches and in dark parking lots - the kids aren't going to ask any questions, believe me, they don't think like that...because they are too young, which is why the drug pushers go to school functions where there aren't many adults around.

You should talk to law enforcement about what they are seeing at schools around the country....and especially the ones that are near the border before you try to push drugs on a public forum. Pot isn't as "innocent" as you are making it out to be.

https://www.claudiablackcenter.com/fentanyl-laced-marijuana-on-the-rise/
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Most citizens agree totally about the cartels bringing drugs in from the border. That's why the border needs to be Shut Down Now!!

Yeah, yeah, yeah....the Republicans are at fault for not approving the current offer but just remember HR2 wasn't even discussed. The House passed that. Why do we Have to take Schumers bill that does nothing. The Dems Knew it wouldn't pass but they got to say to the voters that they trying but those evil Repubs are blocking it.

You are correct. We should have some form of security in schools these days which is sad beyond words. One thing that is a major factor in all this drug dealers in schools is that they and customers grew up in a household without a father. Besides discipline and masculine influence but, without a father, you wouldn't have a mother either.

I'm not sure who is pushing drugs on anyone

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Apr 22, 2024 19:50:27   #
EmilyD
 
Knightlady wrote:
Most citizens agree totally about the cartels bringing drugs in from the border. That's why the border needs to be Shut Down Now!!

Yeah, yeah, yeah....the Republicans are at fault for not approving the current offer but just remember HR2 wasn't even discussed. The House passed that it. Why do we Have to take Schumers bill that does nothing. The Dems Knew it wouldn't pass but they got to say to the voters that they trying but those evil Repubs are blocking it.

You are correct. We should have some form of security in schools these days which is sad beyond words. One thing that is a major factor in all this drug dealers in schools is that they and customers grew up in a household without a father. Besides discipline and masculine influence but, without a father, you wouldn't have a mother either.

I'm not sure who is pushing drugs on anyone
Most citizens agree totally about the cartels brin... (show quote)

People who say it is “better” than alcohol and cigarette smoking….and “not bad for people’s health and the only bad thing about it is that it is taxed now are talking it up.

Marijuana is a drug that is still considered a controlled substance by the federal government, for one thing…another is that there is little research done on long term use…aka addiction. And it has always been considered a gateway drug for as long as I can remember. There is more THC in today’s pot than before, not less. All the negatives about pot are magnified now.

People should think twice before they talk up drug use on a public forum. It’s not the right place for that.
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Apr 22, 2024 20:06:28   #
Knightlady
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Not the pot. Thank you for what your mom admitted. Pot has it's good points.


She didn't admit it, she asked MOHD if he could get her some of his medical marijuana.

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Apr 22, 2024 20:19:45   #
Knightlady
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
EmilyD, these dispensaries are not big pharma. They are, in Rhode Island, locally owned and the state regulates the purity of the product. Big pharma probably doesn't like these dispensaries because it cuts into their profits. From what I hear, the 20% tax is waived for veterans and medical patients with prescriptions from Doctors.


Here, he automatically gets a 10% discount.

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Apr 22, 2024 20:44:00   #
Knightlady
 
EmilyD wrote:
People who say it is “better” than alcohol and cigarette smoking….and “not bad for people’s health and the only bad thing about it is that it is taxed now are talking it up.

Marijuana is a drug that is still considered a controlled substance by the federal government, for one thing…another is that there is little research done on long term use…aka addiction. And it has always been considered a gateway drug for as long as I can remember. There is more THC in today’s pot than before, not less. All the negatives about pot are magnified now.

People should think twice before they talk up drug use on a public forum. It’s not the right place for that.
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Why not? It's a public issue. I agree with most everything else except the encompassing statement it's been considered a gateway drug for a long time. I just wanted to say I agree with you on that but also it is a gateway for Some, not most.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:29:16   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
EmilyD wrote:
Unless it's laced with Fentanyl, Heroin or some other substance that makes it more addictive!! And believe me, that stuff is circulating all over the US with drug cartels running their businesses right at the border!

Well, I'm sure that's not what Liberal Lily had in mind. lol... But if you want to turn this into a battle against Fentanyl and heroin, then be my guest.

EmilyD wrote:

Kids and young adults don't care where they get their pot. And when someone shows up at their school - usually at games where there is a lot of activity - and sell their stuff under the bleaches and in dark parking lots - the kids aren't going to ask any questions, believe me, they don't think like that...because they are too young, which is why the drug pushers go to school functions where there aren't many adults around.

You should talk to law enforcement about what they are seeing at schools around the country....and especially the ones that are near the border before you try to push drugs on a public forum. Pot isn't as "innocent" as you are making it out to be.
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Look, no one here is "pushing" pot in the faces of children under bleachers so get off your high horse. There is a wide world of mature adults who DO care about what they smoke and where it comes from. You need to get a grip.

As for the kids getting bad weed off the street. That's another issue and I agree it's one we need to concern ourselves with. We probably don't agree on the best approach but I think legalizing it so it can be supplied through legitimate commerce is a step in the right direction. Legitimate commerce can be regulated and monitored by agencies like the USDA so that clean products on the market will draw customers away from the black market, which has always been a more effective way to solve the problem than law enforcement could ever be.

Did law enforcement win the war against the bootlegger-gangs during prohibition? No. They did not. Ending prohibition did.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:35:49   #
Turtle keeper
 
Knightlady wrote:
Why not? It's a public issue. I agree with most everything else except the encompassing statement it's been considered a gateway drug for a long time. I just wanted to say I agree with you on that but also it is a gateway for Some, not most.


I know more pot smokers that went on to abuse hard drugs. Than I do those that just smoked pot and nothing else.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:44:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Knightlady wrote:
Why not? It's a public issue. I agree with most everything else except the encompassing statement it's been considered a gateway drug for a long time. I just wanted to say I agree with you on that but also it is a gateway for Some, not most.

I don't think it's a gateway drug at all. Some people are simply more drawn to hard drugs than others and it's typical for them to discover weed first because weed is so commonplace.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:47:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
I know more pot smokers that went on to abuse hard drugs. Than I do those that just smoked pot and nothing else.

Other way around for me. Maybe you're hanging out with the wrong kind of people.

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Apr 22, 2024 22:51:07   #
Turtle keeper
 
straightUp wrote:
Other way around for me. Maybe you're hanging out with the wrong kind of people.

I’m not sure of that but again I do hang around OPP. Hummmmm

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Apr 22, 2024 23:08:33   #
son of witless
 
Mogon wrote:
Wow! That was one hell of a crazy ride!!!
Hope you are well now!!


Not that much of a crazy ride. In truth I have lead an extremely boring life, I think. Looking back, my childhood was pretty messed up so I intentionally played it safe. Part of the reason for calling myself son of witless. I did not have the extreme highs and lows that those who lead interesting lives get to experience. I didn't win the lottery, didn't get cancer, didn't get the trophy wife. My kids and grandkids are healthy. That is all I care about.

As far as my health now, I am in good shape for the shape I'm in. I don't know yet about my liver, but I am down 10 lbs. My cholesterol is at the lowest it has ever been. Starving yourself works. Tomorrow my Doctor should not yell at me, I hope.

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Apr 22, 2024 23:36:13   #
Knightlady
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
I know more pot smokers that went on to abuse hard drugs. Than I do those that just smoked pot and nothing else.


I'm just the opposite but am well aware that it can lead to harder drugs. That goes without saying.

But I could say coffee is an addictive stimulate, the more you drink the higher the tolerance, so you drink more and more but then you can't get that jolt anymore. You hear about speed. You find some and get that jolt back and the cycle continues until you're a meth head addict living on the streets.
All from that morning cup of coffee

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Apr 22, 2024 23:49:00   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
EmilyD wrote:
People who say it is “better” than alcohol and cigarette smoking….and “not bad for people’s health and the only bad thing about it is that it is taxed now are talking it up.

Better at what? I never said that weed is "better" than alcohol or tobacco for anything. I said it's not as destructive... meaning "not as bad" for your health or the wellbeing of others. And BTW, "not AS bad" isn't the same thing as "not bad".

I think it all comes down to how people use it. Just like anything else. There will always be a detriment to inhaling smoke and there could be some long term effects from the THC although studies so far are inconclusive on what those effects are. But on the counter-balance, there are some pluses too. I know several people who use it to help them sleep which could actually be improving their health more than the other way around.

I've also seen people smoke it specifically to get stoned out of their minds. But that's a problem they have before they even spark up.

EmilyD wrote:

Marijuana is a drug that is still considered a controlled substance by the federal government, for one thing…

"Marijuana" lol

EmilyD wrote:

another is that there is little research done on long term use…aka addiction.

Yeah, you know why? Because it's been illegal for so long. But controlled experiments aside, there ARE millions of pot-smokers out there. Millions that have smoked it for 60+ years and are fine. And millions more have smoked it then stopped without much effort because it's NOT that addictive.

EmilyD wrote:

And it has always been considered a gateway drug for as long as I can remember.

That doesn't mean those making that assumption are right. There was a time when everyone thought the world was flat too... for as long as they could remember.

EmilyD wrote:

There is more THC in today’s pot than before, not less.

So when Nixon figured he could wage a war on drugs using law enforcement at the border to cut off the traffic from Mexico, Americans started to grow their own, eventually making cannabis the biggest cash crop in America and along the way they figured out how to increase the potency.

EmilyD wrote:

All the negatives about pot are magnified now.

Are you patting yourself on your back for a job well done?

EmilyD wrote:

People should think twice before they talk up drug use on a public forum. It’s not the right place for that.
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Why is this not the right place for it? Controlled substances are public issues.

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Apr 22, 2024 23:49:37   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
I’m not sure of that but again I do hang around OPP. Hummmmm

LOL

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Apr 23, 2024 00:25:46   #
Knightlady
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't think it's a gateway drug at all. Some people are simply more drawn to hard drugs than others and it's typical for them to discover weed first because weed is so commonplace.


That's kinda what I was trying to say with the emphasis on Some, but you said it much better. Thank you

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