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Apr 22, 2024 02:03:15   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Lily you have been pretty snarky to me all weekend.
But what I said, I meant. The Republican party seems to be, with some exceptions, people with not a lot of interest in history or knowing how the federal government works or what is in our founding documents including the Constitution.


I have to apologize. Though I don’t agree with your assessment, my name calling is completely wrong! I know better and should not have written what I did.

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Apr 22, 2024 06:32:43   #
Mogon
 
Airforceone wrote:
YOU ARE A VERY SICK AND PERVERTED PERSON. I HOPE NOBODY AGREES WITH YOUR CONVOLUTED WAY OF THINKING. BUT AMERICANS MUST PRAY FOR THE STUPID. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.

Answer this question how did the United States of America become the riches country in the world, the smartest country in the world and controls the largest military in the world. Was it because of your stupidity msybe think about that.


Rest assured that what Parky leaves in the toilet every morning is 10 times smarter than you.
Nothing you write is right!

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Apr 22, 2024 06:36:16   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Mogon wrote:
Rest assured that what Parky leaves in the toilet every morning is 10 times smarter than you.
Nothing you write is right!


There are pieces of rock in my yard smarter than he is or ever will be!

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Apr 22, 2024 06:38:50   #
Mogon
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I hope that other time comes soon. I would like to know who you think should rule and who should be allowed to vote. Are you suggesting civics quizzes must be passed in order to vote? A return to poll taxes or worse?


He said nothing of the sort!
IMHO, he was stated how we got here and that kids knowing about Hollywood more than history and lack of morals and religion is the country”s downfall.
I can’t believe that what your question was is all you got out of his post.
I guess you too are also the problem why this country is falling. You distort what you read to promote your party.
Unbelievable!!

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Apr 22, 2024 06:41:06   #
Mogon
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
I believe that rights carry concomitant responsibilities. The Founders knew this. Unfortunately, they assumed this knowledge would pass on down through the generations. It has not. I think a Civics quiz would be a very good thing to require for voting. Most people have no effing idea what they vote for. This ignorance affects far more than just them. The ignorance and apathy of many voters is appalling.


Maybe having a full time job should be required also.
People on welfare shouldn’t be able to vote for more money for doing nothing!

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Apr 22, 2024 06:50:21   #
Mogon
 
AuntiE wrote:
There are pieces of rock in my yard smarter than he is or ever will be!


No doubt!👍

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Apr 22, 2024 07:48:38   #
Big Kahuna
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If passing civics quizzes becomes a requirement to vote, with the present state of the Republican party it's likely there would be no worries about GOP control of Congress or WH for a long while. Dems would rule.


With dems ruling you now see what we are getting. Sexual perversion, open borders to all criminal illegals, high inflation, wars on all fronts, Anti-Americanism, loss of Constitutional rights, tyrrany, one party marxist rule, corruption in the extreme, a corrupted press, a corrupted government, a corrupt as hell FBI, CIA, IRS, Homeland Insecurity, a 2-tiered judicial system, the indictment of innocent individuals and a witch hunt against a forner president, stolen elections. pro-Hamas colleges, society destroying islamist who don't fit into American society, anti-Semites under every stone and a very confused Hollyweird, confused people who have no idea what gender they are. It only gets worse under dem rule. If our country truly wants freedom, the dem party must go away and soon.

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Apr 22, 2024 08:21:31   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Lily wrote:
I have to apologize. Though I don’t agree with your assessment, my name calling is completely wrong! I know better and should not have written what I did.


Apology accepted. ♥️ All better now. 😊

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Apr 22, 2024 08:59:21   #
Snoopy
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)


The United States Democracy is 250+ years old!

Snoopy

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Apr 22, 2024 09:06:01   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Snoopy wrote:
The United States Democracy is 250+ years old!

Snoopy


235 this year.

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Apr 22, 2024 12:13:53   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If passing civics quizzes becomes a requirement to vote, with the present state of the Republican party it's likely there would be no worries about GOP control of Congress or WH for a long while. Dems would rule.


It's been my experience that many Democrats seem to have no problem with incorporating large swatches of the Communist Manifesto into the US Constitution and pretending that they were always there.

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Apr 22, 2024 12:21:05   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
NotMAGA wrote:
235 this year.


Correct, it turns 236 on 21 June. We were never a Democracy. A Republic is a Democratic form of government, not a Democracy. There is a difference.

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Apr 22, 2024 12:27:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
AuntiE wrote:
I have an idea for the quiz. I, even know who will not pass.

One question. Show, in the US Constitution, the phrase separation of church and state. It would eliminate 90% of the Democrats vote.


I offered 50$ for the word Democracy.

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Apr 22, 2024 12:39:31   #
LindaK
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
With dems ruling you now see what we are getting. Sexual perversion, open borders to all criminal illegals, high inflation, wars on all fronts, Anti-Americanism, loss of Constitutional rights, tyrrany, one party marxist rule, corruption in the extreme, a corrupted press, a corrupted government, a corrupt as hell FBI, CIA, IRS, Homeland Insecurity, a 2-tiered judicial system, the indictment of innocent individuals and a witch hunt against a forner president, stolen elections. pro-Hamas colleges, society destroying islamist who don't fit into American society, anti-Semites under every stone and a very confused Hollyweird, confused people who have no idea what gender they are. It only gets worse under dem rule. If our country truly wants freedom, the dem party must go away and soon.
With dems ruling you now see what we are getting. ... (show quote)





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Apr 22, 2024 12:40:52   #
LindaK
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
Correct, it turns 236 on 21 June. We were never a Democracy. A Republic is a Democratic form of government, not a Democracy. There is a difference.



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