publican

OK, padre, you got me. The question of abortion is a question of belief, which may or may not be part of a religion. Atheists too have beliefs. The belief relevant to abortion is: when does the soul become enter the body? Some say at the moment of conception, others say at the moment of birth, and there is, no doubt, a variety of other beliefs. Unless you are some kind of monstrous totalitarian, you had better allow for those whose beliefs differ from yours to live in peace. Your beliefs, regarding abortion, "morals and values" or anything else, are yours, but others may differ. If you can't accept that rock-bottom American principle, perhaps you would find a place like North Korea more congenial.

Rose42

They’re not falsehoods. Its amusing how you keep calling others ignorant

publican

Rosie, believe whatever fantasies rock your boat. I'll stick to the real world.

EmilyD

The monsters are not the ones who are trying to protect the innocent lives of babies who SHOULD NOT have to die! They are the ones doing the killing! The mothers giving permission and the abortionists torturing and killing the babies!!

If you are an Atheist, it is understandable why you don't value human life...and can justify throwing little pieces of baby into trash cans. They don't even get a funeral, poor little things. That's okay, God knows what's happened to his beautiful creations.

The soul is not something man can decide upon. When God gives a soul to a human being is God's thing, not ours. The body is what holds the soul....when the soul "gets there" does not matter - it is sacred because of that particular function! Our bodies are sacred vessels! I know you don't understand this, but people who have faith do. And there are a LOT of us here on Earth yet.

But what you SHOULD be doing, but are not, is advocating for birth control. I haven't heard you mention it once as a solution to at least some the abortion problem! It wouldn't stop it, because man has made a law preventing people from being prosecuted for this kind of murder, but it might cut down on the deaths!

Unless you are making millions off the abortion industry - because that's what it is, a billion dollar industry - you should not be pushing for these unnecessary deaths of millions (billions worldwide) of human beings!!

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Rose42

You’ll stick to your alternate reality and what you’re told to believe.

Your insistence on using nicknames for people reveals more than you think.

publican

Emily, I am no atheist, but I am also not an idiot.

publican

Rose42, nobody tells me what to believe. And while you are digesting that, tell me, what does my "insistence on using nicknames" reveal?

Proud American Patriot

BigK. Totally worthless trying to speak to OPP liberals.

publican

Calm down, dearie, you are making too many unfounded assumptions. For instance, I have said nothing about birth control because that question never came up. I am surprised, in fact, that you think it is OK, given your deeply religious nature.

publican

PAP, if you were truly a patriot, you would know that even people you disagree with are Americans with the same rights and worthy of the same respect as you. But, instead, you are crypto totalitarian who would like the USA to resemble North Korea, where everyone is kept in line and no disagreements are allowed.

EmilyD

I support birth control only because it is an alternative to the death of a baby. It's not a good thing, but at least it doesn't involve taking away a life by killing it in its mother's womb!

If abortion is a thing we have to have here on Earth, then my function will be to do whatever I can to make the deaths less....not more!

The birth control pill control does that without taking a life. And all the woman (or man!) has to do is take a pill!

You should watch an abortion. It might shed some light on why this is such a horrible thing. In fact, you really don't have a dog in this fight if you haven't watched an abortion. I had to in school, and it is a nightmare I will never forget.

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padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Holy moly, BK, I had no idea it was that severe. And to think part of the agreement was that these manufacturers could not be held culpable or liable. That one is on the Trump Administration although since Biden is taking credit for the vaccine well, just saying.

Proud American Patriot

Publican, you are a pseudo intellectual. I use that loosely. No one said you have less rights. That is your insecurity. It is just that you are stupid, blind, in denial and have no regard for the swift declining welfare of this country. I give respect where it is deserved. Americans fighting for Barak Obiden are not Americans, they are just stupid. Like your alleged arguments.

EmilyD

Trump is not a doctor or researcher...he knew nothing about this. So he appointed his VP to form a task force of people who were capable of handling a virus outbreak. Right from the start, the pharmaceutical companies made their disclaimer known so they wouldn't be "bothered" with people who were having problems and families of people who had died from their product.

When people started dying from it at first, it was easier to determine if they died from the vaccine, than from something else. Now since there are so many comorbidities possible, unless there's an autopsy done looking for the vaccine drugs, it's impossible to know if someone died from the vax drugs or from a complication from them .

The list of possible adverse reactions is NINE PAGES at the end of the Pfizer report where they were forced to publicize it when they tried to tell us we had to wait 75 years to learn what was in the jab! What Big Kahuna published above is just ONE of those pages!

Here's the full report - the 9 pages are at the end...the Appendix:

The list starts on page 30...

https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

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publican

Oh go suck an A. I am just as American as you are. And a lot less stupid. You hide behind your claim of "patriotism", but you are just another pathetic loser who needs a totalitarian leader to tell you what to do.