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Apr 18, 2024 18:21:46   #
martsiva
 
publican wrote:
Stop with your sophistry. You say "I ... would never presume to ... tell someone they are going to Hell." And then you say "I can only instruct someone that unrepentant sinful behavior will take them there because sin can never enter into heaven". You fail to see that these two statements are virtually the same.

And calling anyone an "ignorant, arrogant, easily triggered turd" is not very Christlike. If you really are a "priest" as you claim, what church do you represent? Is it the Church of the Holy Apostates?
Stop with your sophistry. You say "I ... wou... (show quote)


No they are not 'virtually the same'!! Apparently 'instruct someone' went right over your head!! Speaking of apostates, I`m surprised you didn`t yell your usual mantra 'I COME TO BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH'!!

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Apr 18, 2024 18:22:26   #
publican
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Not really. It was totally worthless.


So we can assume you did not get any toxic jabs. Do us all a favor. Stay locked in your house, or cell, or cardboard box, or whatever you live in. We don't need another infectious agent wandering around in public.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:22:44   #
EmilyD
 
publican wrote:
To repeat what I said to "Big Kahuna": There was a crisis which demanded an immediate response. Perhaps the resulting vaccine was not perfect, but it was a darn sight better than nothing at all.

It's killing people! And it's still being pushed at drug stores everywhere!!! In the past, if something killed just a few people it was taken off the market immediately! Not this drug... If I'd had the shot I sure would be wondering WHY that is?!! WHY are they still vaccinating people when they know it might kill them??

But go ahead and trust them. If you've got the M-RNA spike protein in you, you have no choice anyway...

https://howbad.info/
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Apr 18, 2024 18:24:05   #
publican
 
martsiva wrote:
No they are not 'virtually the same'!! Apparently 'instruct someone' went right over your head!! Speaking of apostates, I`m surprised you didn`t yell your usual mantra 'I COME TO BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH'!!


Pay attention, Martsy. "I COME TO BEAR WITNESS TO THE TRUTH" is not my mantra. It belongs to someone else.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:26:25   #
publican
 
EmilyD wrote:
It's killing people! And it's still being pushed at drug stores everywhere!!! In the past, if something killed just a few people it was taken off the market immediately! Not this drug... If I'd had the shot I sure would be wondering WHY that is?!! WHY are they still vaccinating people when they know it might kill them??

But go ahead and trust them. If you've got the M-RNA spike protein in you, you have no choice anyway...

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Any medicine has a risk. The hard question is the risk worth the benefit? How many people died from covid because they were not vaccinated? How many people died as the result of being vaccinated?

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Apr 18, 2024 18:30:39   #
EmilyD
 
publican wrote:
So we can assume you did not get any toxic jabs. Do us all a favor. Stay locked in your house, or cell, or cardboard box, or whatever you live in. We don't need another infectious agent wandering around in public.

There are at least a hundred million people in America who are not vaxxed....if you're so afraid of that...YOU should be the one hiding! Find yourself a bubble to put over your head so you can be protected - We can call you "Bubblehead". Perfect!!
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Apr 18, 2024 18:38:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
More facts:
There were no listed risks at the time
Might have been beneficial and worth risks to older compromised people
Isolation and lockdowns actually exacerbated the problems.
Definitely proven younger people have no need of this experimental drug, could have harmful side affects and the government still pushes the “vaccine” for young people. The politicians are owned by big pharma.
Follow the money.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:40:19   #
publican
 
JFlorio wrote:
More facts:
There were no listed risks at the time
Might have been beneficial and worth risks to older compromised people
Isolation and lockdowns actually exacerbated the problems.
Definitely proven younger people have no need of this experimental drug, could have harmful side affects and the government still pushes the “vaccine” for young people. The politicians are owned by big pharma.
Follow the money.


If you want to believe these falsehoods, be my guest. I am only thankful that ignoramuses like you have no power in the USA.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:40:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
publican wrote:
The question of abortion is fundamentally a religious question, that is, it is a question of belief. Consequently there can be no rational resolution.

Your fear of the Covid vaccine is based on nothing but ignorance. Do you even know how vaccines, and this one in particular, work? Are you old enough to remember the introduction of the polio vaccine? Have you ever had any vaccine shots? If so, has your immune system been compromised?

I have no love for big pharma, but I do know how science works and you, plainly, don't.
The question of abortion is fundamentally a religi... (show quote)


If Abortion is only a question of religion, does that mean that people who possess no religious beliefs can do anything they want? Until I was 33 abortion in America was a felony. One also did not need to have abortion tied to religion to know it was wrong. America possessed morals and values back then. The amoral or consciously immoral agenda of the Left, the Marxist Left, ushered in the intentional destruction of Traditional American morals, values, faith, the nuclear family and love and respect of Country. OPP is a microcosm of America today. It is glaringly apparent and undeniable Truth, observable on this forum, that Democrats are a magnet for atheist, nihlist & moral relativist and look what the bloody hell you've collectively done to America or are you just as blind as you are ignorant? You have no concept, no understanding what you have wrought, what you have done, what you destroyed.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:40:44   #
EmilyD
 
publican wrote:
Any medicine has a risk. The hard question is the risk worth the benefit? How many people died from covid because they were not vaccinated? How many people died as the result of being vaccinated?

Oh my God!

How many people NEED to die before you agree it is toxic? I know of five people who have died directly from it - two of whom are relatives of mine.

Are you going to educate yourself about this, or continue to hide behind the propaganda you are listening to or reading? The doctors who are mentioned in the link below are highly credentialed doctors and researchers. Some of them were pro-vaccine all their adult lives, and were part of the research efforts of the vaccines that have been successful in the past.

And here's the thing, publican.....It is those doctors and researchers who are telling everyone that this is NOT a vaccine, and to STOP taking it....and above all else, do NOT give it to children!

https://howbad.info/

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Apr 18, 2024 18:43:04   #
publican
 
EmilyD wrote:
Oh my God!

How many people NEED to die before you agree it is toxic? I know of five people who have died directly from it - two of whom are relatives of mine.

Are you going to educate yourself about this, or continue to hide behind the propaganda you are listening to or reading? The doctors who are mentioned in the link below are highly credentialed doctors and researchers. Some of them were pro-vaccine all their adult lives, and were part of the research efforts of the vaccines that have been successful in the past.

And here's the thing, publican.....It is those doctors and researchers who are telling everyone that this is NOT a vaccine, and to STOP taking it....and above all else, do NOT give it to children!

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https://howbad.info/
Oh my God! br br How many people NEED to die bef... (show quote)


Emily, I am sorry for your losses, but how do you KNOW that they were killed by the vaccine? Just because they were vaccinated and then died is not proof.

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Apr 18, 2024 18:46:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
They have no respect for life period.
padremike wrote:
If Abortion is only a question of religion, does that mean that people who possess no religious beliefs can do anything they want? Until I was 33 abortion in America was a felony. One also did not need to have abortion tied to religion to know it was wrong. America possessed morals and values back then. The amoral or consciously immoral agenda of the Left, the Marxist Left, ushered in the intentional destruction of Traditional American morals, values, faith, the nuclear family and love and respect of Country. OPP is a microcosm of America today. It is glaringly apparent and undeniable Truth, observable on this forum, that Democrats are a magnet for atheist, nihlist & moral relativist and look what the bloody hell you've collectively done to America or are you just as blind as you are ignorant? You have no concept, no understanding what you have wrought, what you have done, what you destroyed.
If Abortion is only a question of religion, does t... (show quote)

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Apr 18, 2024 18:52:36   #
EmilyD
 
publican wrote:
Emily, I am sorry for your losses, but how do you KNOW that they were killed by the vaccine? Just because they were vaccinated and then died is not proof.


Because it says so on their death certificates. They were autopsied. They never had Covid and did not test positive for it at the autopsies. My brother-in-law died of blood clots in his brain. My brother died of heart swelling. Both death certificates say "due to complications resulting from vaccine injury from Covid-19 injection" The other three who were not relatives were autopsied, too.

One of the main things wrong with the counting of things is that the majority of people who die from what could easily be the vaccine, were not counted among the vaxxed deaths because they were not autopsied. And hospitals are currently not allowing autopsies except in certain murder cases and other dire circumstances. (I wonder who gave them that directive?!)

One clue, though, is the insurance actuaries and funeral homes (and grave diggers). They are noticing excess deaths that cannot just be written off for some other reason. Way more - like 30% more!

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Apr 18, 2024 18:55:38   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I have a friend who’s a doctor at the V.A.
He said they were told to put cause of death, Covid on every death certificate during the pandemic. He’s above reproach and the most honest person I know.

EmilyD wrote:
Because it says so on their death certificates. They were autopsied. They never had Covid and did not test positive for it at the autopsies. The other three who were not relatives were autopsied, too.

One of the main things wrong with the counting of things is that the majority of people who die from what could easily be the vaccine, were not counted among the vaxxed deaths because they were not autopsied. And hospitals are currently not allowing autopsies except in certain murder cases and other dire circumstances. (I wonder who gave them that directive?!)

One clue, though, is the insurance actuaries and funeral homes (and grave diggers). They are noticing excess deaths that cannot just be written off for some other reason. Way more - like 30% more!

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Because it says so on their death certificates. Th... (show quote)

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Apr 18, 2024 18:59:53   #
EmilyD
 
JFlorio wrote:
I have a friend who’s a doctor at the V.A.
He said they were told to put cause of death, Covid on every death certificate during the pandemic. He’s above reproach and the most honest person I know.


Wow! So people thought their family members died of Covid when they really might not have? Wow!

I remember hearing that a guy who died in a motorcycle accident was listed as a Covid death....his mother made them change it.

We will never know the real numbers...either from Covid OR the fake vaccine...amazing, isn't it?

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