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And so, Roe became law of the land.. thank the GOP
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Apr 13, 2024 17:42:01   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Pulled from Quora.....




In 1973, a majority Republican-appointed Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade. Here is the simple conservative position they took: abortions can be medically necessary, and Americans have a Constitutional right to privacy assumed by the 4th amendment and 14th amendment. Since the procedure can be medically necessary, and since the government has no business prying into medical decisions, the state cannot pass a law barring or limiting that procedure. Now in 1973, the Republicans on the Supreme Court still believed in limited government, so that decision made sense.

When Republicans started trying to con Christians into supporting them by paying lip service to family values, they came out in opposition to their own court’s ruling and suddenly bemoaned the deaths of all the babies. Understand that before Roe v Wade and before the infiltration of the church by the Republican Party, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying in part, “we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother”. Now that same organization would call that same statement liberal nonsense.

So here’s what I discovered about people who are pro-choice. They aren’t as a rule in favor of abortion being used as a casual method of birth control. They do want to keep the government out of private healthcare decisions, and they do value the needs and rights of the expectant mother as paramount. In 2000, Al Gore insisted that the Democratic National Convention adopt the position that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” with emphasis on the word rare.

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Apr 13, 2024 17:53:26   #
Lily
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora.....

In 1973, a majority Republican-appointed Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade. Here is the simple conservative position they took: abortions can be medically necessary, and Americans have a Constitutional right to privacy assumed by the 4th amendment and 14th amendment. Since the procedure can be medically necessary, and since the government has no business prying into medical decisions, the state cannot pass a law barring or limiting that procedure. Now in 1973, the Republicans on the Supreme Court still believed in limited government, so that decision made sense.

When Republicans started trying to con Christians into supporting them by paying lip service to family values, they came out in opposition to their own court’s ruling and suddenly bemoaned the deaths of all the babies. Understand that before Roe v Wade and before the infiltration of the church by the Republican Party, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying in part, “we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother”. Now that same organization would call that same statement liberal nonsense.

So here’s what I discovered about people who are pro-choice. They aren’t as a rule in favor of abortion being used as a casual method of birth control. They do want to keep the government out of private healthcare decisions, and they do value the needs and rights of the expectant mother as paramount. In 2000, Al Gore insisted that the Democratic National Convention adopt the position that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” with emphasis on the word rare.
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If you consider over 980,000 in one year rare, you are beyond any definition.

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Apr 13, 2024 18:33:55   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora.....




In 1973, a majority Republican-appointed Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade. Here is the simple conservative position they took: abortions can be medically necessary, and Americans have a Constitutional right to privacy assumed by the 4th amendment and 14th amendment. Since the procedure can be medically necessary, and since the government has no business prying into medical decisions, the state cannot pass a law barring or limiting that procedure. Now in 1973, the Republicans on the Supreme Court still believed in limited government, so that decision made sense.

When Republicans started trying to con Christians into supporting them by paying lip service to family values, they came out in opposition to their own court’s ruling and suddenly bemoaned the deaths of all the babies. Understand that before Roe v Wade and before the infiltration of the church by the Republican Party, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying in part, “we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother”. Now that same organization would call that same statement liberal nonsense.

So here’s what I discovered about people who are pro-choice. They aren’t as a rule in favor of abortion being used as a casual method of birth control. They do want to keep the government out of private healthcare decisions, and they do value the needs and rights of the expectant mother as paramount. In 2000, Al Gore insisted that the Democratic National Convention adopt the position that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” with emphasis on the word rare.
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Put any spin you want on it Perm... Pro-choice = Pro-death!

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Apr 13, 2024 18:43:26   #
Lily
 
Parky60 wrote:
Put any spin you want on it Perm... Pro-choice = Pro-death!


Pro-choice = infantcide.

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Apr 13, 2024 18:48:49   #
guzzimaestro
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora.....




In 1973, a majority Republican-appointed Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade. Here is the simple conservative position they took: abortions can be medically necessary, and Americans have a Constitutional right to privacy assumed by the 4th amendment and 14th amendment. Since the procedure can be medically necessary, and since the government has no business prying into medical decisions, the state cannot pass a law barring or limiting that procedure. Now in 1973, the Republicans on the Supreme Court still believed in limited government, so that decision made sense.

When Republicans started trying to con Christians into supporting them by paying lip service to family values, they came out in opposition to their own court’s ruling and suddenly bemoaned the deaths of all the babies. Understand that before Roe v Wade and before the infiltration of the church by the Republican Party, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying in part, “we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother”. Now that same organization would call that same statement liberal nonsense.

So here’s what I discovered about people who are pro-choice. They aren’t as a rule in favor of abortion being used as a casual method of birth control. They do want to keep the government out of private healthcare decisions, and they do value the needs and rights of the expectant mother as paramount. In 2000, Al Gore insisted that the Democratic National Convention adopt the position that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” with emphasis on the word rare.
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It's not the law of the land. It reverted back to the states. Go back and re read.

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Apr 13, 2024 20:12:16   #
Ricktloml
 
Lily wrote:
If you consider over 980,000 in one year rare, you are beyond any definition.

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Apr 13, 2024 20:28:54   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
Pulled from Quora.....

In 1973, a majority Republican-appointed Supreme Court decided Roe v. Wade. Here is the simple conservative position they took: abortions can be medically necessary, and Americans have a Constitutional right to privacy assumed by the 4th amendment and 14th amendment. Since the procedure can be medically necessary, and since the government has no business prying into medical decisions, the state cannot pass a law barring or limiting that procedure. Now in 1973, the Republicans on the Supreme Court still believed in limited government, so that decision made sense.

When Republicans started trying to con Christians into supporting them by paying lip service to family values, they came out in opposition to their own court’s ruling and suddenly bemoaned the deaths of all the babies. Understand that before Roe v Wade and before the infiltration of the church by the Republican Party, the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution saying in part, “we call upon Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother”. Now that same organization would call that same statement liberal nonsense.

So here’s what I discovered about people who are pro-choice. They aren’t as a rule in favor of abortion being used as a casual method of birth control. They do want to keep the government out of private healthcare decisions, and they do value the needs and rights of the expectant mother as paramount. In 2000, Al Gore insisted that the Democratic National Convention adopt the position that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare” with emphasis on the word rare.
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As with everything prediction Al Gore has ever uttered he was, yet again, wrong!

The numbers are astronomical. Rare is nowhere in evidence. Democrats always move the goal posts!

Previous Governor of Virginia refusing to sign a bill to provide medical care for babies living through a botched abortion is your idea of safe. Safe for whom?

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Apr 13, 2024 20:29:50   #
Ricktloml
 
Lily wrote:
Pro-choice = infantcide.


Bingo! Leftists/Democrat-Communists (D-Cs) LUST after power/control. And what illustrates power/control like the power to decide who lives/dies...granted these are innocent/defenseless/helpless babies, but cowards like Leftists/D-Cs really don't like any fighting back (even if it's only a 6lb-12lb baby...and they know they can easily butcher the baby)...so, poisoning them/ripping them limb/limb...much more their style...and then insisting that they're morally superior.

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Apr 13, 2024 20:41:52   #
Ricktloml
 
AuntiE wrote:
As with everything prediction Al Gore has ever uttered he was, yet again, wrong!

The numbers are astronomical. Rare is nowhere in evidence. Democrats always move the goal posts!

Previous Governor of Virginia refusing to sign a bill to provide medical care for babies living through a botched abortion is your idea of safe. Safe for whom?


Do you remember when the Democrat-Communist NY State Legislators gave a standing ovation to passing regulations allowing an abortion up until the time the BABY was coming down the birth canal? Democrat-Communists/American-Left...there is something that they just LOVE about the power to murder innocent babies. It seems to thrill them...they cannot get enough

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Apr 13, 2024 20:49:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Bingo! Leftists/Democrat-Communists (D-Cs) LUST after power/control. And what illustrates power/control like the power to decide who lives/dies...granted these are innocent/defenseless/helpless babies, but cowards like Leftists/D-Cs really don't like any fighting back (even if it's only a 6lb-12lb baby...and they know they can easily butcher the baby)...so, poisoning them/ripping them limb/limb...much more their style...and then insisting that they're morally superior.


rick, this is not about babies.. It is about cells not yet made into anything... less than a heavy period...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/pregnancy-weeks-abortion-tissue

This article is more than 1 year old
What a pregnancy actually looks like before 10 weeks – in pictures
This article is more than 1 year old
In 13 US states, abortion is banned even in the earliest stages of pregnancy. But we rarely see what such tissue really looks like


large amount of whitish material in petri dish
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Nine weeks of pregnancy. Photograph: MYA Network
This image shows the gestational sac of a nine-week pregnancy. This is everything that would be removed during an abortion and includes the nascent embryo, which is not easily discernible to the naked eye. Showing this tissue can be a relief to patients. “Often people don’t speak to anyone about getting an abortion. They make a very quiet, private decision because they’re afraid to see people’s reactions. And then I do this simple procedure that’s a few minutes longer than a Pap test. For those who choose to look at the tissue, you can literally feel the tension come down. People have been on this emotional roller coaster. And they’re like, ‘You’re kidding. This is all that was?’” says Fleischman.

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Apr 13, 2024 21:03:35   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
rick, this is not about babies.. It is about cells not yet made into anything... less than a heavy period...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/pregnancy-weeks-abortion-tissue

This article is more than 1 year old
What a pregnancy actually looks like before 10 weeks – in pictures
This article is more than 1 year old
In 13 US states, abortion is banned even in the earliest stages of pregnancy. But we rarely see what such tissue really looks like


large amount of whitish material in petri dish
View image in fullscreen
Nine weeks of pregnancy. Photograph: MYA Network
This image shows the gestational sac of a nine-week pregnancy. This is everything that would be removed during an abortion and includes the nascent embryo, which is not easily discernible to the naked eye. Showing this tissue can be a relief to patients. “Often people don’t speak to anyone about getting an abortion. They make a very quiet, private decision because they’re afraid to see people’s reactions. And then I do this simple procedure that’s a few minutes longer than a Pap test. For those who choose to look at the tissue, you can literally feel the tension come down. People have been on this emotional roller coaster. And they’re like, ‘You’re kidding. This is all that was?’” says Fleischman.
rick, this is not about babies.. It is about cell... (show quote)


So according to you and your ilk, a full term “fetus”, in the birth canal, is not a baby; therefore, it is perfectly alright to terminate the pregnancy. You are a heathen and would have fit well in Sodom and Gomorrah!

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Apr 13, 2024 22:17:59   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
permafrost wrote:
rick, this is not about babies.. It is about cells not yet made into anything... less than a heavy period...


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/18/pregnancy-weeks-abortion-tissue

This article is more than 1 year old
What a pregnancy actually looks like before 10 weeks – in pictures
This article is more than 1 year old
In 13 US states, abortion is banned even in the earliest stages of pregnancy. But we rarely see what such tissue really looks like


large amount of whitish material in petri dish
View image in fullscreen
Nine weeks of pregnancy. Photograph: MYA Network
This image shows the gestational sac of a nine-week pregnancy. This is everything that would be removed during an abortion and includes the nascent embryo, which is not easily discernible to the naked eye. Showing this tissue can be a relief to patients. “Often people don’t speak to anyone about getting an abortion. They make a very quiet, private decision because they’re afraid to see people’s reactions. And then I do this simple procedure that’s a few minutes longer than a Pap test. For those who choose to look at the tissue, you can literally feel the tension come down. People have been on this emotional roller coaster. And they’re like, ‘You’re kidding. This is all that was?’” says Fleischman.
rick, this is not about babies.. It is about cell... (show quote)


It is one thing to see a sick twisted mind. But it is even worse to watch them try to prove it day after day.

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Apr 13, 2024 22:36:33   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
It is one thing to see a sick twisted mind. But it is even worse to watch them try to prove it day after day.


One wonder if this was his position when his grandchildren were gestating.

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Apr 13, 2024 23:07:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
AuntiE wrote:
So according to you and your ilk, a full term “fetus”, in the birth canal, is not a baby; therefore, it is perfectly alright to terminate the pregnancy. You are a heathen and would have fit well in Sodom and Gomorrah!


Sad,,, my point was about fetus up to 9 weeks.. not full term.. while I will always believe in the breath of life as the bible says. the post I made or tryed to was sort of a rebuttal ... the right wingers always post bodies of full term, even still born babies and represent them as average abortions.. so I made my post with the intent of posting real photos of the remains of abortions... but the dang medical site photos would not allow copy so my effort was useless.. the link went weekly with photos of each week up to week 9 and a short paragraph of comments by the Docs along with them.. but with no photos, it is a failed effort and that is all ... nothing more..

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Apr 13, 2024 23:09:06   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
It is one thing to see a sick twisted mind. But it is even worse to watch them try to prove it day after day.


YOu truly need to update your shtick.. you keep using the same trash..

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