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Apr 11, 2024 09:01:35   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
dwp66 wrote:
Really? How the heck do you know. I have never said on this forum that I am, so you are blowing smoke. So, naturally, I expect you to search my older posts to find one where I declared myself an Atheist! Good luck!

I grew up in Texas, in the Church of Christ, more conservative than the Southern Baptists, and you know nothing other than the fact that I rejected the teachings of that church. Doesn't mean I don't believe in a higher power - just not the one that I was taught as a kid. I no longer take the Bible literally. So what? That makes you superior?

Padre is, IMO, a sanctimonious, hateful, and bigoted individual who is nothing like the Christian ideal that Jesus preached. I know enough about Christianity to see that in a heartbeat, and IMO he gives Christianity a bad name. And you, Emily, are always here to defend him. No surprise whatsoever that you would chime in here.

And which of my words on this post express "hate"? I made an IMO observation, nothing hateful about it. The true "hater" here is the one you incessantly defend. He hates on others all the time. Jesus would surely be proud of him, don't you think? What say you, Emily?
Really? How the heck do you know. I have never sa... (show quote)


FYI- I have adopted the practice of St. Paul inasmuch as to Jews I become a Jew, to Greeks I am Greeks and to assholes I become an asshole. I am especially an asshole to Leftist who actively promote murdering babies, promoting sexual perversions, who have destroyed traditional marriage and the nuclear family. In short, people like you who destroy traditional American morals, values, faith, family, and love of country. These are sacred things and they do indeed cause me to be sanctimonious over you because endorsing and protecting them makes me to be morally superior. Live with it today because you will bloody well die with it tomorrow. Your own free will choice.

I intentionally use salty language because I know people like you need a shiny object to attack knowing I'm a retired priest but mostly because it's my personality to use it especially towards those I disdain. I don't care that profanity is said to be the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully. Sometimes telling someone they're a dumb evil son of a bitch gets the point across more than telling them they're a bigoted, spigoted, over-percolated prig.

These is another difference between us. I know what a horrible man and great sinner I am. Every day I must seek help and forgiveness from Christ and you don't. How's that working out for you? One thing in your favor. You made an honest choice in rejecting Christ and Christianity for the cultural Marxist Democrat Party. One cannot be a supporter of both.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:05:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
dwp66 wrote:


Oh, you just cannot help but be yourself, Padre! Exactly the response I expected!


I am delighted I met your expectations. Your rejection of Truth is the only response I ever expect from you.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:11:29   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
EmilyD wrote:
Oops, you’re right…I got my riots mixed up…was thinking of the Ferguson riots…thanks.


You are often confused about things called FACTS.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:11:30   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
dwp66 wrote:

Padre is, IMO, a sanctimonious, hateful, and bigoted individual who is nothing like the Christian ideal that Jesus preached. I know enough about Christianity to see that in a heartbeat, and IMO he gives Christianity a bad name.

That's been my observation too. He calls himself Padre and makes all these claims to righteousness but his underlying messages are always loaded with bigotry and hate. He seems to fit the archetype for theocratic politics where people exploit religion to gain political advantage - the very basis for manifestations such as the Christian Nationalists and the Islamic Resistance, which is really the same thing, just a different part of the world and a different stage of development.

If anyone wants to see where the Christian Nationalist movement will go if they are allowed to breach our secular government, they need to look no further than Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS. These are all right-wing, conservative, theocratic movements filled with people like Padre.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:13:05   #
TJKMO Loc: Bicycle Heaven
 
padremike wrote:
I am delighted I met your expectations. Your rejection of Truth is the only response I ever expect from you.


And vitriol is what we expect from you….Padre.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:35:35   #
EmilyD
 
dwp66 wrote:
Really? How the heck do you know. I have never said on this forum that I am, so you are blowing smoke. So, naturally, I expect you to search my older posts to find one where I declared myself an Atheist! Good luck!

I grew up in Texas, in the Church of Christ, more conservative than the Southern Baptists, and you know nothing other than the fact that I rejected the teachings of that church. Doesn't mean I don't believe in a higher power - just not the one that I was taught as a kid. I no longer take the Bible literally. So what? That makes you superior?

Padre is, IMO, a sanctimonious, hateful, and bigoted individual who is nothing like the Christian ideal that Jesus preached. I know enough about Christianity to see that in a heartbeat, and IMO he gives Christianity a bad name. And you, Emily, are always here to defend him. No surprise whatsoever that you would chime in here.

And which of my words on this post express "hate"? I made an IMO observation, nothing hateful about it. The true "hater" here is the one you incessantly defend. He hates on others all the time. Jesus would surely be proud of him, don't you think? What say you, Emily?
Really? How the heck do you know. I have never sa... (show quote)


You don't have to use the word "Atheist" to display that you are one. Your own words tell us that very clearly....and the things you support tell everyone that as well. You "no longer take the Bible literally" is just one example of your Atheism! Or should I call it your Apostasy...it's both, really. And yes, I defend people I care about...and padre and his wife are two of them. They have been repeatedly attacked because of what padre has done all his life!

And I stand by my theory that padre and several others who are faithful and have been so all their lives threaten the very fabric of your being to the point you are frightened of them and what they stand for. Which is why you feel the need to attack him.

And as far as you being just as hateful as anyone else on this forum, tell me - do you think these comments are hateful, dwp666??

"Padre is, IMO, a sanctimonious, hateful, and bigoted individual who is nothing like the Christian ideal that Jesus preached..."

"Jesus talked just like you! Same hateful disgust towards others, just like him! ...Your sanctimonious crap getting old."

"She is 𝒏𝒐𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒍𝒊𝒌𝒆 the examples I gave in my post, but I won't call you "stupid" - ad hominin remarks are the last refuge of those with no better arguments.

There's a lot more...those are some of your hateful words from just yesterday.

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Apr 11, 2024 09:48:48   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
padremike wrote:
FYI- I have adopted the practice of St. Paul inasmuch as to Jews I become a Jew, to Greeks I am Greeks and to assholes I become an asshole. I am especially an asshole to Leftist who actively promote murdering babies, promoting sexual perversions, who have destroyed traditional marriage and the nuclear family.

Hamas has the same list of grievances... they oppose abortion and all sexual expressions outside the "God-given" rules of marriage. You'd fit right in.

padremike wrote:

In short, people like you who destroy traditional American morals, values, faith, family, and love of country. These are sacred things and they do indeed cause me to be sanctimonious over you because endorsing and protecting them makes me to be morally superior.

Again, the same EXACT declarations heard by Islamic extremists. They are the so-called champions of traditional morals and defenders of what is righteous and what is sacred and it's their love for their country that inspires them to replace liberal policies and western influence with moral tradition. Iran's theocracy even has a moral police force.

padremike wrote:

Live with it today because you will bloody well die with it tomorrow. Your own free will choice.

Your opposition to a woman's right to choose makes your talk of free will and free choice cheap to say the least.

padremike wrote:

I intentionally use salty language because I know people like you need a shiny object to attack knowing I'm a retired priest but mostly because it's my personality to use it especially towards those I disdain.

You're not a retired priest... Don't you know lying is a sin?

padremike wrote:

I don't care that profanity is said to be the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully. Sometimes telling someone they're a dumb evil son of a bitch gets the point across more than telling them they're a bigoted, spigoted, over-percolated prig.

Well then... you're a dumb evil son of a bitch. Are you getting the point?

padremike wrote:

These is another difference between us. I know what a horrible man and great sinner I am.

You said it.

padremike wrote:

Every day I must seek help and forgiveness from Christ and you don't. How's that working out for you?

For most secularists it's working out just fine. We have morals based on very simple rules, like treating others with respect. Some of us get these morals from a wide range of religious guides, including the Bible, the Koran and the Tanakh. Some of us get them from our parents, or from teachers in public schools or our peers growing up and some of us can simply figure it out.

We don't all need to be corralled by religious doctrines and the ONLY reason for the Original Sin is to scare people into submission.

padremike wrote:

One thing in your favor. You made an honest choice in rejecting Christ and Christianity for the cultural Marxist Democrat Party. One cannot be a supporter of both.

The only thing I know about a Marxist Democratic party is that it's a delusion suffered by idiots who have no clue what Marxism is. But I do know plenty of real Christians that vote Democratic.

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Apr 11, 2024 10:05:58   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
EmilyD wrote:
You don't have to use the word "Atheist" to display that you are one. Your own words tell us that very clearly....and the things you support tell everyone that as well. You "no longer take the Bible literally" is just one example of your Atheism! Or should I call it your Apostasy...it's both, really.

No it's not, really. Atheism is a rejection of God. You don't have to take the Bible literally to believe there is a God. That's just what some uptight religious assholes say in their attempt to own God.

EmilyD wrote:

And yes, I defend people I care about...and padre and his wife are two of them. They have been repeatedly attacked because of what padre has done all his life!

I don't know what he did all his life. You might know him better than me. But on these anonymous sites, there is only our projections. And what he projects is arrogance, intolerance and hatred so his projection is going to get bashed.

EmilyD wrote:

And I stand by my theory that padre and several others who are faithful and have been so all their lives threaten the very fabric of your being to the point you are frightened of them and what they stand for. Which is why you feel the need to attack him.

Not the very fabric of our being, the fabric of our secular society which we will continue to defend from false prophets and theocratic fanatics like Padre.

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Apr 11, 2024 11:05:14   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
That's been my observation too. He calls himself Padre and makes all these claims to righteousness but his underlying messages are always loaded with bigotry and hate. He seems to fit the archetype for theocratic politics where people exploit religion to gain political advantage - the very basis for manifestations such as the Christian Nationalists and the Islamic Resistance, which is really the same thing, just a different part of the world and a different stage of development.

If anyone wants to see where the Christian Nationalist movement will go if they are allowed to breach our secular government, they need to look no further than Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS. These are all right-wing, conservative, theocratic movements filled with people like Padre.
That's been my observation too. He calls himself P... (show quote)


You are a much better icon exactly where our nation and people are going than I am. You're a disgusting Godless perverted bastard who believes Christian values and objective leads to a theocracy all because we object to the Godless perversions you promote. We had a very workable relationship between church and State until you jackasses force fed evil issues highly objectable to people of faith into politics and destroyed the balance.. You upset the balance not people of faith. You're the effing bigots. You're stupid and arrogant enough to believe we should sit passively, our hands folded meekly in prayer, while you promote wickedness and steal souls?

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Apr 11, 2024 11:07:32   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
padremike wrote:
You are a much better icon exactly where our nation and people are going than I am. You're a disgusting Godless perverted bastard who believes Christian values and objective leads to a theocracy all because we object to the Godless perversions you promote. We had a very workable relationship between church and State until you jackasses force fed evil issues highly objectable to people of faith into politics and destroyed the balance.. You upset the balance not people of faith. You're the effing bigots. You're stupid and arrogant enough to believe we should sit passively, our hands folded meekly in prayer, while you promote wickedness and steal souls?
You are a much better icon exactly where our natio... (show quote)



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Apr 11, 2024 11:14:20   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
The only thing I know about a Marxist Democratic party is that it's a delusion suffered by idiots who have no clue what Marxism is. But I do know plenty of real Christians that vote Democratic.


Everytime you open your mouth you give a great example of what a sick, demented, perverted bastard thinks. It's so easy to goad you assholes into exposing yourselves and you never fail to show us. Vanity, vanity, vanity.

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Apr 11, 2024 11:15:51   #
EmilyD
 
EmilyD wrote:
You don't have to use the word "Atheist" to display that you are one. Your own words tell us that very clearly....and the things you support tell everyone that as well. You "no longer take the Bible literally" is just one example of your Atheism! Or should I call it your Apostasy...it's both, really.

straightUp wrote:
No it's not, really. Atheism is a rejection of God. You don't have to take the Bible literally to believe there is a God. That's just what some uptight religious assholes say in their attempt to own God.

EmilyD wrote:
And yes, I defend people I care about...and padre and his wife are two of them. They have been repeatedly attacked because of what padre has done all his life!

straightUp wrote:
I don't know what he did all his life. You might know him better than me. But on these anonymous sites, there is only our projections. And what he projects is arrogance, intolerance and hatred so his projection is going to get bashed.

EmilyD wrote:
And I stand by my theory that padre and several others who are faithful and have been so all their lives threaten the very fabric of your being to the point you are frightened of them and what they stand for. Which is why you feel the need to attack him.

straightUp wrote:
Not the very fabric of our being, the fabric of our secular society which we will continue to defend from false prophets and theocratic fanatics like Padre.
You don't have to use the word "Atheist"... (show quote)


You are correct...Atheism is a rejection of God. And for Christians, the Bible is a life guide. It gives advice and sets an example. It contains the actions and words of Jesus. It is the history of Christianity and is a record of the prophets. It contains the stories of God and his will. It contains different types of writing such as religious songs (psalms) and prayers, as well as the four gospels. The Bible talks about disciples and shows how Christianity developed.

The Bible allows us Christians to access the foundations of our faith - it is an essential part of a Christian's daily life. The Book itself is not the revelation. It reveals the revelation....the revelation being Jesus Christ! We refer to the Bible as ‘the word of God’.

To us Christians, the Bible is Sacred, Holy and inspired by God. To reject it - to "not take it literally" - is to reject God. That's pretty much the definition of Atheism!

Padre has stated several times that he has been a Catholic (not Roman Catholic) Priest for most of his life. And he has described in detail what he went through to become that priest. Since you have developed a program that can search for things in seconds, you should be able to find what he's said about his life's journey in just a few seconds.

If you think padremike is a "false prophet" you are in a much darker place than I thought you were, which was already pretty dark...

I pity your soul, and where it is going to end up...

...

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Apr 11, 2024 11:21:32   #
Ready player 1
 
EmilyD wrote:
You wrote a program that scans all the pages of a topic in 6 seconds?

Interesting....

...


🤔 AI? Would explain allot.

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Apr 11, 2024 11:24:11   #
EmilyD
 
Ready player 1 wrote:
🤔 AI? Would explain allot.


Could AI tell you what someone's "most articulate" comment they've ever made on this forum is?

...



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Apr 11, 2024 11:28:20   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
straightUp wrote:
Brighter than you Perky. You just used up all those fancy words to tell me what I already know. All you have to do is read the chart - it actually says "annual change in inflation". If you look at the chart you will notice that the point at each year matches the year end figures that add up to your totals. But you're averaging those totals over each term which flattens out the spikes that you see in the chart due to the higher frequency of data points. It's like I'm looking at a high resolution monitor and you're on a low-resolution gameboy screen and you're telling me that MY view is inaccurate.

I will admit to one mistake... I said after 2022 the CPI went down. I meant to say the rate of change in the CPI went down, which means that for that the last two years inflation has been slowing down. And that's Biden grabbing the reins and saying whoa!

The other thing that seems to have flown right over your head is the point I made about the first year of any presidency. You're giving Biden credit for the inflation in 2021 when the budget for 2021 was signed by Trump. The year end figure for 2021 (rate of change) is 4.7% so add that to your 7.7% figure and that comes to 12.4%, but to be fair we should take the figure for 2017 out since that was under Obama's influence, that year end figure is 2.1% so now we're at 10.3% not 7.7%. Then we minus that 4.7% from Biden's total leaving us with 14.7%, not 19.4% All of a sudden, the difference doesn't seem so drastic.

BTW, the budget doesn't actually have THAT much impact on inflation but I'm using it symbolically to make a point... NO economic policy is enacted the minute a president takes office. Almost anything involving money has to go through Congress. Typically, it takes a year at least for a president's economic policies to be implemented.

This leads to my final point. Presidents (in fact, the government as a whole) has VERY little control over inflation anyway. The current inflation is the result of an economy normalizing itself after a near complete shut down. This is when demand suddenly comes back and in this case, it came back faster than the goods could be delivered which prompted players in the private sector to gouge prices. My guess is that this price gouging accounts for at least 80% of the inflation we've experienced.

So it's a bit ridiculous to keep blaming Biden for the inflation. The economic shut down that made inflation inevitable happened under Trump and it was mostly driven by greed in the private sector.

AND... blaming Biden for the inflation STILL isn't an example of something Trump did to help the American middle-class which is STILL something no one here has been able to provide.
Brighter than you Perky. You just used up all thos... (show quote)

That’s because your view IS inaccurate… it’s nothing but spinning the data to graph a trend that doesn’t exist except in your mind. What you have to do is get the actual CPI data from those time frames – https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/consumer-price-index-and-annual-percent-changes-from-1913-to-2008/ – to calculate how much inflation has increased (by the way dummy, inflation almost never goes down).

Now, I know that this may be difficult for someone of your mental caliber to grasp but look under January-2017, the beginning of Trump’s term, on the CPI chart at the website I provided – 242.839. Are you keeping up?

Next, look under January-2021, the end of Trump’s term, and you’ll see 261.582.

Now this is where things might get challenging for you so why don’t you program your fancy computer to calculate it for you so you can keep up…

Here’s the math… (261.582 / 242.839) – 1 = 7.72% total inflation for Trump’s term
7.72% / 48 months = 0.16% Average per month x 12 = 1.93% average inflation per year

Are you keeping up?

Now, let’s do it for Joe…

Look under January-2021, the beginning of Joe’s term – 261.852.

Next, look under March-2024, the latest date which data is available – 312.332.

Again, here’s the math… (312.332 / 261.852) – 1 = 19.3% total inflation for Joe’s term… SO FAR!

But I’ll be nice to Joe…

19.3% / 38 months = 0.51% Average per month x 12 = 6.10% average inflation per year

I think that I’ll stick with my low-resolution gameboy screen and you can keep your high-resolution monitor because YOUR view IS fuzzy.

And now it's back to ignoring you like I usually do because your nothing but a bloviating self-important a'hole who thinks he's so smart but does not have one iota of wisdom.

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