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Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa

federally indicted mattoid wrote:

Exactly!

The rise in bigotry and ignorance IS one of the greatest threats to this country.

And it is primarily committed by liberals/Democrats/Communist/Socialist.....after Trump gets back into the White House and things begin to improve they will continue to lie and attack him no matter how much things improve in this country and in the world.

dwp66

Proud American Patriot wrote:

This is true. And they armed a good amount of them. We still have a civilian population that is heavily armed. Looks like a possible repeat of Nam but here. Gonna have to go guerilla. Should we start getting the punjis going or too soon?

Who is "they"?

EmilyD

dwp66 wrote:

My oh my, what a short memory you have. The last pillaging I saw after a lost election was the MAGA crowd, on Jan 6, 2021. Name a single time Democrats burned, looted, or anything else after losing an election.
I wait with bated breath.

The Summer of 2020 is a good start...and it was BEFORE an election...when OBAMA was president.....hmmmmm.....

Seattle, May - August 2020

Minneapolis - May 28

Houston - May 30

Detroit - May 30

Dallas - May 30

Washington DC - June 1

St. Louis - June 1

Phoenix - June 1

Los Angeles - June 1

New York City - June 3-10

Richmond - June 4

Boston - June 8

Atlanta - June 19

Portland - July 20-August 29

Chicago - August 10

Denver - august 24

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dwp66

padremike wrote:

Interesting that you actually found something in Slats response so compelling that required such accolades.

Most of us that - aren't religious zealots - like Slatten49.

The online people you like are ones that agree with everything you say, praise Jesus.

dwp66

padremike wrote:

OK, ass breath, we know the CIA is not under the DOJ and my comment was not inferred to mean they were. You can choose to read it as I intended or be the asshole you excell at being.

So far as the rest of your comments, like you they aren't worth addressing.

You are the epitome of a Christ like individual. Jesus talked just like you! Same hateful disgust towards others, just like him!

Your sanctimonious crap getting old.

EmilyD

dwp66 wrote:

You are the epitome of a Christ like individual. Jesus talked just like you! Same hateful disgust towards others, just like him!

Your sanctimonious crap getting old.

You are an admitted Atheist. Your words of hate don't surprise anyone. Someone of padre's nature is bound to frighten the likes of you.

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padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

dwp66 wrote:

"unquestionably"?? Where's the your proof? You haven't any, just your uninformed opinions.

Dunning Kruger talking. You don't know enough to even know how little you know.

Naturally being a dumbschit, you have no reason to be suspicious why all the charges against Trump just mysteriously were brought forth at the most opportune time to interfere with the 2024 election. I agree that you're not smart enough to assimilate this sort of data.

Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa

padremike wrote:

Naturally being a dumbschit, you have no reason to be suspicious why all the charges against Trump just mysteriously were brought forth at the most opportune time to interfere with the 2024 election. I agree that you're not smart enough to assimilate this sort of data.

EmilyD

straightUp wrote:

Why do you people do that? All these false accusat... (show quote)

You wrote a program that scans all the pages of a topic in 6 seconds?

Interesting....

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straightUp Loc: California

RandyBrian wrote:

Let me jump in with one. It's simple, so understanding it should be no problem for you.
My wife's and my day to day living budget in 2012 $2900/month. In 2016, at the end of Obama's term, it was $3000/month. In late 2020, after four years of Trump, it WAS STILL $3000/month. NO CHANGE. By late 2021 it had gone up to #$3150/month, and today it is $3300/per month.
Follow all that?

Yes, but I'm going to stop your right there because your personal budget is far more influenced by your own personal decisions than anything a president does. I mean, why is it that in 2012, your budget was only $2900.00 and mine was $8600.00? I'm going to guess it's because my income was higher which allowed me to commit to more financial obligations. I would credit my higher salary to decisions *I* made as well as my commitments to greater financial obligations.

Try to stick with things like the consumer price index which takes all your personal decisions out of the equation.

RandyBrian wrote:

That does not include utilities or our rare eating out. That is rent, grocery store food, medicine (only a few small changes there), gasoline, and occasional small purchases.
Rationalize or justify it any way your choose, but THAT is the bottom line for me and MOST Americans. For over a decade, little to no inflation. Then along came Biden.

Look, I understand the pain of inflation and I get that it's a frustration for a lot of Americans today, including myself but just blindly throwing the blame at the president isn't going to help you. If anything, it will keep you from understanding what the actual problem is.

First of all, prices NEVER remain flat for decades at a time. If you're a grown adult, you should know that.

Secondly, the economy in the first year of any presidency is ALWAYS influenced by the previous president. Trump took office in 2017... Guess who signed the 2017 budget? Obama did. Biden took office in 2021. Guess who signed the 2021 budget? Trump did.

That being said, your numbers are actually working against your argument because you stated that between 2012 and 2016 your personal budget went up by $100. That was under Obama's budget. Then you state that your personal budget went up again, between 2020 and 2021, by $150... ($50 more than before) and THAT was under Trump's budget. THEN you say it went up by ANOTHER $150 between 2021 and 2024, which was under Biden but where under Trump, it only took one year to go up by $150, it took three years to go up by that much under Biden. So clearly, Trump is your worst bet.

Now, like I said using your personal budget does well to illustrate your bottom line and that's what should really matter to us as middle-class workers but it doesn't give us a clear read on presidential influence.

That being said, there are a LOT of things that influence the cost of living that has NOTHING to do with who is sitting in the White House. The pandemic for instance had a massive influence on the economy that eclipses the influence of a president entirely and that isn't just limited to depressions created by a pandemic but the inevitable inflation that comes recovery.

You said that the cost of living was flat until Biden came along. Well, Biden came along in 2021 and like I said, Trump signed the budget for 2021 and trust me I would LOVE to blame Trump for that spike but I know that despite Trump signing the budget for "the year that Biden came along", the pandemic was a far greater influence. This is also why I don't blame Trump for the economic shut down in 2020. By contrast, you are chomping at the bit to blame Biden.

RandyBrian wrote:

ALL Biden has done is make our bottom line go UP and UP. increases in wages does not hold a candle to the inflation rate on virtually EVERYTHING.

Hate to tell you this (not really) but you're flat wrong. Here's a chart showing us the Consumer Price Index over all the years in question...

As you can see, almost ALL of the increase in the CPI actually occurred during the years that Trump's budget was in operation... 2020 and 2021. It actually peaked at the end of that year. Biden's budget took over in 2022 and what do we see? A decline in the CPI.

So the FACT is... Under Trump's policies inflation went up. Under Biden's policies inflation started to come down. But this is how Trump leverages the ignorance of his base, by letting you remain ignorant about the federal budget while stirring up emotions about the hated "Brandon".

RandyBrian wrote:

Obama did a pretty good job controlling inflation. Trump did better. Biden CAUSED massive inflation through incompetence, deliberate attacks on our economy, and apparently through helping our enemies.

Well now that I've exposed that little detail about the federal budget, we can see that inflation actually happened under Trump's influence, not Biden and yes, the data shows that Trump was in fact the worst out of all three. But again, I cite the pandemic as a far greater influence, so Trump get a pass on this one. Even though I think the pandemic itself would have had less influence if Obama or Biden was in charge when it happened.

RandyBrian wrote:

Want another one? Sure.

Another one? I was asking someone to provide ONE thing that Trump DID to help the middle-class American. So far that hasn't happened. Instead, you reverted to attacks on Biden. Ranting about how Biden did this or that is not showing me what Trump did to help us.

RandyBrian wrote:

Trump provided a secure border for the first time in 40 years or more. THAT puts Trump WAY beyond anything any other party did, including the Republicans, but way WAY past anything the Dems reven attempted to fake. doing.

OK... FINALLY an example of what Trump actually did. Too bad it's wrong. So I guess I'll have to explain this one too.

Trump didn't actually "secure the border" until the pandemic hit. That's when we did what most other countries were doing at the time. We closed the border BECAUSE of the pandemic. That's what the provision in Title 42 was... a TEMPORARY shut down that was NEVER meant to be permanent. It was one of the two gifts that the pandemic gave Trump... an inevitable recovery and inflation that he could try to blame on Biden and an automatic shutdown of the border that he could pretend was his solution to "securing" it.

So it's not really anything Trump actually did. Congress had already created Title 42 and it was automatically enacted in response to the pandemic. All Trump did was pretend it was all him and of course no one believed him except for those who were ignorant about the details, which of course includes his base.

After the pandemic Title 42 was lifted (as it was always planned) and we were back to business as usual, with one small difference. There were a LOT more immigrants at the border. Part of that was the backlog of immigrants that piled up when Title 42 was enacted but by far the biggest reason is that people were (and still are) migrating out of Venezuela and the reason for that is pretty obvious to anyone who looks... Trump. Venezuela was already hurting economically because of some bad management but when Trump slapped sanctions on the country it collapsed entirely and now the people can't even find food.

So while Trump didn't do shit for us, he certainly did something for the Venezuelans... He destroyed their county and now the people of that country are knocking on our door. Most immigrants at the border are in fact from Venezuela and the numbers are breaking records.

The other thing I have to ask is this... What makes you think that shutting out the immigrants actually helps middle-class Americans? That was actually part of my question... to explain HOW the action taken actually helped the middle-class.

So... I still have yet to see ANYONE provide just ONE example of what Trump actually DID to help us.

straightUp Loc: California

EmilyD wrote:

You wrote a program that scans all the pages of a topic in 6 seconds?

Interesting....

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Yeah, it works really well. It puts the results in a single page that includes links to each individual post. I can share it if you're interested. Here's a snapshot of the results page.

BIRDMAN

EmilyD wrote:

It’s in the multiple billions…and that’s just for “the Biden years”. We will be paying for the chain migration and anchor babies of the relatives of these illegals for decades.
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Last I heard it’s roughly $465 billion a year

EmilyD

straightUp wrote:

Yeah, it works really well. It puts the results in a single page that includes links to each individual post. I can share it if you're interested. Here's a snapshot of the results page.

Huh....I wonder how one would look up the most articulate comment someone has ever made?

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dwp66

EmilyD wrote:

You are an admitted Atheist. Your words of hate don't surprise anyone. Someone of padre's nature is bound to frighten the likes of you.

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Really? How the heck do you know. I have never said on this forum that I am, so you are blowing smoke. So, naturally, I expect you to search my older posts to find one where I declared myself an Atheist! Good luck!

I grew up in Texas, in the Church of Christ, more conservative than the Southern Baptists, and you know nothing other than the fact that I rejected the teachings of that church. Doesn't mean I don't believe in a higher power - just not the one that I was taught as a kid. I no longer take the Bible literally. So what? That makes you superior?

Padre is, IMO, a sanctimonious, hateful, and bigoted individual who is nothing like the Christian ideal that Jesus preached. I know enough about Christianity to see that in a heartbeat, and IMO he gives Christianity a bad name. And you, Emily, are always here to defend him. No surprise whatsoever that you would chime in here.

And which of my words on this post express "hate"? I made an IMO observation, nothing hateful about it. The true "hater" here is the one you incessantly defend. He hates on others all the time. Jesus would surely be proud of him, don't you think? What say you, Emily?

dwp66

padremike wrote:

Naturally being a dumbschit, you have no reason to be suspicious why all the charges against Trump just mysteriously were brought forth at the most opportune time to interfere with the 2024 election. I agree that you're not smart enough to assimilate this sort of data.

Oh, you just cannot help but be yourself, Padre! Exactly the response I expected!