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Apr 10, 2024 15:03:10   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
I don't know either - I turn you out for the fool that you are every single time.


Well, at one time they WERE legitimate agencies, until under Biden's administration, when they were released from following the Constitution.
And whether or not they are directly under the DOJ is immaterial. The ARE directly under Biden, and they ALL are part and parcel of the unelected bureaucracy that is working in conjunction with the Democrats to keep a monstrous, unsupervised deep state in control of what happens, and NOT Congress under the appropriate Constitutional limits.

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Apr 10, 2024 15:06:40   #
EmilyD
 
RandyBrian wrote:
One correction. TDS was invented to describe a certain type of behavior among anti-Trump fanatics.
Those who enthusiastically embraced the Russian Collusion Delusion by ignoring all the evidence that was not true. Those who kept repeating long debunked falsehoods about Trump. Those who did and still do claim that Trump is racist despite enormous evidence that he is not. Those who took every little misspeak and demanded that Trump was racist, hated women, was corrupt, was bribing judges, etc, and was openly admitting it.
That's what TDS actually is. It has very little to do with Trump, but illustrates fully the liberal attitude.
One correction. TDS was invented to describe a ce... (show quote)

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I think it is amusing that they use the acronym "MAGA" as if it is an insult to us! I actually like it when they refer to us as "MAGA's"! It is a reminder that America is a great country and Trump wants to keep it that way! (And how much he will be doing it again starting next January 20!!)

I just might make the trip to DC for his inauguration this time!!

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Apr 10, 2024 15:10:41   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Well stated.

It's a shame that so many people completely loose their ability to be rational when it comes to politics because that's what allows TDS to happen. I have a friend that was getting so upset with me the other day because I didn't agree with his assertion that our population is declining, which is apparently a big deal among conservatives. I tried to explain that it's the growth rate that is declining, not the actual population. I even used analogies like how slowing down from 60 mph to 15 mph doesn't mean forward progress has stopped. In the end his daughter looked it up and shoved her phone in my face. "See, the population IS declining! You are WRONG!" I told her to look again and I asked her if the data was showing the population or the growth rate. Turns out it was the growth rate.

The problem is that they were SO committed to their side that they never really paid enough attention to the facts to realize they were wrong. It was far more urgent for them to immediately argue with the liberal in the room.
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There are people like that on both sides.
It is more important to them to be agreeing with their side than to be right. I have seen much the same from most of our liberal friends, especially on OPP. In your case, you are trying to use the anecdotal case of your friend and daughter and jumping to the illogical and false statement that this is a trend among conservatives. My personal experience is that it is liberals who choose a side, then look for ONLY validating evidence and ignore everything else.

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Apr 10, 2024 15:11:46   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
TJKMO wrote:
If you are going to be so UNCHRISTIAN as to call someone an โ€œASDHOLEโ€ (sic),
you should make an effort to review your work before posting.
And it is not โ€œ NIP PICKING ASSHOLEโ€, is it?


You stupid twit. Are you not smart enough to know that was an intentional setup for that jackass to bite on?

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Apr 10, 2024 15:12:55   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
straightUp wrote:
Nah, that side-stepping isn't working, Sparky.

One more chance... Can you explain - in your own words - how one single thing Trump did has helped the American middle-class in any significant way. It's a very simple question. Can you do it or not?


Yes one thing: The price of Regular Gas went from $2.25 in 2016 to over $4.00 in 2020 and this caused the prices of everything else to increase. DO YOU UNERSTAN THIS???



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Apr 10, 2024 15:15:38   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
EmilyD wrote:
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I think it is amusing that they use the acronym "MAGA" as if it is an insult to us! I actually like it when they refer to us as "MAGA's"! It is a reminder that America is a great country and Trump wants to keep it that way! (And how much he will be doing it again starting next January 20!!)

I just might make the trip to DC for his inauguration this time!!

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i AM PROUD TO WEAR MY RED maga HAT AND MY maga SHIRT and I get lotza complements but on them not on my looks

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Apr 10, 2024 15:28:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
Well, there's the literal interpretation, which I went with and there's the forgiving interpretation, where I could say... "Well, what he MEANT to say is..."

But that get's back to my point. If you struggle so much with language, how do you expect me to believe that you actually understand this complex world?


I do struggle to both read and write. Its called Macular degeneration, not uncommon amongst someone 83 years old and the print on my android is too bloody small.

But I do enjoy an arrogant bastard like you, one who thinks he's at the top of his game and has it all together. Personally I think you're a dumbshit who only thinks he's smart. What you have demonstrably shown is a total lack of common sense and wisdom and that truth alone, puts you amongst the dumbest of the dumb and leading the pack of the most ignorant. Finally, it's fitting that you're also a fool. Yet I do approve of your use of free will. It speaks exactly to what you are. Pax.

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Apr 10, 2024 15:28:49   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Why do you people do that? All these false accusations and baseless assumptions about people just because you don't like their view. Mattoid has not actually stated that he supports the killing of Trump. Not once. I wrote a program to scan ALL the pages of a topic in about 6 seconds and I use it to scan for things people say and not ONE person stated they want to see Trump killed.

You're original post implies that Trump's critics want him killed. It would appear that is all your own fantasy. Is this your attempt to demonize them or maybe a feeble attempt to make Trump out to be some great threat to our culture?

Let me help you out here, Lily... None of us are all that worried about Trump. Trump is a moron. What we are worried about is the rise in bigotry and ignorance that Trump is tapping into because it leaves us open to future politicians that might actually be smart enough to leverage that and turn our country into the kind of fascist tyranny that no one really wants.

So if you can drop your idolization of Trump for just one moment you MIGHT give yourself a chance to put credit where credit is due. Trump doesn't scare us. YOU people do. Because if there is one lesson that Trump has taught us, it's that if Adolph Hitler ran for president in 2024, you would very likely vote for him.
Why do you people do that? All these false accusat... (show quote)


Sorry straight up, but that is EXACTLY what we think about YOU! If at the Democrat convention the DNC announces that Biden and Harris is out and they are instead running clones of Hitler and Mussolini, created and well trained in secret by a hidden DNC laboratory,....just TRUST us! I have zero doubt that the majority of Democrats would vote for them. After all, Biden has already started you guys on the fascist and anti-Constitutional path.path. And former Judge Bryers has written a clear pathway to side stepping the Constitution based on current attitudes of the people living in the USA (note that it is NOT limited to citizens.).

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Apr 10, 2024 15:39:58   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
TJKMO wrote:
I think calling people โ€œASS BREATHโ€ as you do, is not a way to get people to align with you.


You don't think so, TJ? Well, I can only speak for myself, but as a 51 year committed and always active Christian, teacher, youth worker, Bible study leader, missions director, Deacon, camp leader, church bus driver, church security team member, sound board operator, and frequent jack of all trades, including substitute preacher, I have only one thing to say about Padremike's comment.......
some times you can only call a spade a spade or a puff of bad smelling writing a bad smelling writing. Anything else would be a lie, and I do not tell lies. Neither does, I suspect, Padremike.
You have been proven to do so regularly.

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Apr 10, 2024 15:45:42   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
TJKMO wrote:
If you are going to be so UNCHRISTIAN as to call someone an โ€œASDHOLEโ€ (sic),
you should make an effort to review your work before posting.
And it is not โ€œ NIP PICKING ASSHOLEโ€, is it?


EVERYONE on OPP could do better at reviewing before posting. Often emotions run high. Shall all the rest of us start nit-picking YOUR posts? You are far from perfect, in spite of being a self proclaimed profit of Jesus Christ.

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Apr 10, 2024 16:01:37   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
padremike wrote:
I do struggle to both read and write. Its called Macular degeneration, not uncommon amongst someone 83 years old and the print on my android is too bloody small.

But I do enjoy an arrogant bastard like you, one who thinks he's at the top of his game and has it all together. Personally I think you're a dumbshit who only thinks he's smart. What you have demonstrably shown is a total lack of common sense and wisdom and that truth alone, puts you amongst the dumbest of the dumb and leading the pack of the most ignorant. Finally, it's fitting that you're also a fool. Yet I do approve of your use of free will. It speaks exactly to what you are. Pax.
I do struggle to both read and write. Its called ... (show quote)



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Apr 10, 2024 16:01:55   #
Mogon
 
EmilyD wrote:
๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

I think it is amusing that they use the acronym "MAGA" as if it is an insult to us! I actually like it when they refer to us as "MAGA's"! It is a reminder that America is a great country and Trump wants to keep it that way! (And how much he will be doing it again starting next January 20!!)

I just might make the trip to DC for his inauguration this time!!

...


As will I !

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Apr 10, 2024 16:08:18   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
RandyBrian wrote:
One correction. TDS was invented to describe a certain type of behavior among anti-Trump fanatics.
Those who enthusiastically embraced the Russian Collusion Delusion by ignoring all the evidence that was not true.

So... what you're saying here is that if evidence is not true (in which case it wouldn't be evidence) it would be delusional to ignore it. That is literally what you just wrote.

RandyBrian wrote:

Those who kept repeating long debunked falsehoods about Trump.

Such as what?

RandyBrian wrote:

Those who did and still do claim that Trump is racist despite enormous evidence that he is not.

LOL - wow... First of all, PR stunts like pardoning a few black people for crimes committed isn't ENORMOUS evidence that he isn't racist. Secondly, whether or not Trump is racist or not, people are picking up on his dog whistles. We KNOW he isn't going to come out and say "Hi, I'm a racist!" But we have noticed a very obvious hesitancy to condemn the racist actions of others, such as at Charlottesville.

We also noticed his personal relationships with racists like David Duke who was the Grand Wizard of the Knights of the KKK. Trump even invited him to Mar a Lago. Any president in his right mind would have distanced himself from someone like David Duke, but Trump finds a way to excuse it.

Then there's all the endorsements that Trump gets from racist organizations.

We are also aware of his past history where in 1972 he and his father were prosecuted by the DOJ for discrimination against African Americans in their renting practices. He wasn't even running for office then, so you can't say it was a Democratic plan to "destroy" him.

There is also his appearance on the Howard Stern show in 2005 where he told Howard that in the next season of the Apprentice he was going to put a team of white people up against a team of black people, which actually shocked the shock-jock himself. BTW, the network wisely decided against it.

Then there is his idiot immigration comments like how we only want people from "nice countries like Denmark and Norway". One would have to be VERY oblivious to miss that dog whistle. Meanwhile, he has become infamous for describing immigrants at the southern border (who are mostly brown) as bad people.

So, before I make this response too long, I'm going to cut it here, even though it's only scratching the surface, and say this... No other president or candidate in living memory has done ANY of the things I just listed.

So let's just say, for the sake of argument, that Trump himself isn't racist... He is still, without a doubt, fostering relationships with racists and appealing to the racist voters out there. Maybe it because he knows that a huge part of his base is indeed racist.

Personally, I think it stands to reason that his history of Freudian slips, law suites, dog whistles and presidential actions, such as a banning ALL Muslims which the courts didn't allow, adds up to a deserved reputation as a racist.

RandyBrian wrote:

Those who took every little misspeak and demanded that Trump was racist, hated women, was corrupt, was bribing judges, etc, and was openly admitting it.

All those little "misspeaks" add up, Sparky. Especially when they include executive orders that the Supreme Court had to step in to stop.

RandyBrian wrote:

That's what TDS actually is.

TDS was never a legal or academic term. The ONLY context in which it was ever used was in political rants. So there's no rule that says it can't be expanded to include the idolization of Trump by his groupie followers.

RandyBrian wrote:

It has very little to do with Trump, but illustrates fully the liberal attitude.

Except for one problem... the liberal attitude is based on facts, as is continuously proven by investigations and court decisions. That is why "delusion" is far more applicable to the the Trump supporters who depend entirely on unproven conspiracy theories and the stomping of their feet.

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Apr 10, 2024 16:11:36   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
Nah, that side-stepping isn't working, Sparky.

One more chance... Can you explain - in your own words - how one single thing Trump did has helped the American middle-class in any significant way. It's a very simple question. Can you do it or not?


Let me jump in with one. It's simple, so understanding it should be no problem for you.
My wife's and my day to day living budget in 2012 $2900/month. In 2016, at the end of Obama's term, it was $3000/month. In late 2020, after four years of Trump, it WAS STILL $3000/month. NO CHANGE. By late 2021 it had gone up to #$3150/month, and today it is $3300/per month.
Follow all that?
2012 $2900.00
2016 $3000.00
2020 $3000.00
2021 $3150.00
2024 $3300.00
That does not include utilities or our rare eating out. That is rent, grocery store food, medicine (only a few small changes there), gasoline, and occasional small purchases.
Rationalize or justify it any way your choose, but THAT is the bottom line for me and MOST Americans. For over a decade, little to no inflation. Then along came Biden.
ALL Biden has done is make our bottom line go UP and UP. increases in wages does not hold a candle to the inflation rate on virtually EVERYTHING.
Obama did a pretty good job controlling inflation. Trump did better. Biden CAUSED massive inflation through incompetence, deliberate attacks on our economy, and apparently through helping our enemies.
Want another one? Sure. Trump provided a secure border for the first time in 40 years or more. THAT puts Trump WAY beyond anything any other party did, including the Republicans, but way WAY past anything the Dems reven attempted to fake. doing.

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Apr 10, 2024 16:15:01   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Let me jump in with one. It's simple, so understanding it should be no problem for you.
My wife's and my day to day living budget in 2012 $2900/month. In 2016, at the end of Obama's term, it was $3000/month. In late 2020, after four years of Trump, it WAS STILL $3000/month. NO CHANGE. By late 2021 it had gone up to #$3150/month, and today it is $3300/per month.
Follow all that?
2012 $2900.00
2016 $3000.00
2020 $3000.00
2021 $3150.00
2024 $3300.00
That does not include utilities or our rare eating out. That is rent, grocery store food, medicine (only a few small changes there), gasoline, and occasional small purchases.
Rationalize or justify it any way your choose, but THAT is the bottom line for me and MOST Americans. For over a decade, little to no inflation. Then along came Biden.
ALL Biden has done is make our bottom line go UP and UP. increases in wages does not hold a candle to the inflation rate on virtually EVERYTHING.
Obama did a pretty good job controlling inflation. Trump did better. Biden CAUSED massive inflation through incompetence, deliberate attacks on our economy, and apparently through helping our enemies.
Want another one? Sure. Trump provided a secure border for the first time in 40 years or more. THAT puts Trump WAY beyond anything any other party did, including the Republicans, but way WAY past anything the Dems reven attempted to fake. doing.
Let me jump in with one. It's simple, so understan... (show quote)



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