Biden Slaps Bibi. Bibi Will Take and He Will Like It (Page 7): Because we are civilized and the muslims are savages bent on our destruction!

Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA

Skiladi wrote:

No one is talking about the Israeli hostages that Hamas is still holding and torturing. If they want a cease fire, release the hostages. Hamas does not care about their civilians so why should we?

Because we are civilized and the muslims are savages bent on our destruction!

Justice101

straightUp wrote:

This article starts off by saying "Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim."

So it's not video coverage of the event... It's video testimony of one person describing the event. Bear in mind that a lot of Israelis hate Palestinians with a passion so we have to expect some of them to turn a kidnapping spree into an orgy of rape and carnage. And a REAL journalist already knows that you can't rely on one source.

None of the photos in the article show any evidence of rape or mutilation. One is a photo of the woman who single-handedly made the case to the Israeli authorities based on her unproven story and some photos of mutilations. That's Dr Cochav Elkayam-Levy, who was actually awarded by the Israeli government for her "work" in presenting her story... which helped Israel gain popular support for the genocide.

It turns out that some her her photos were of Kurdish women after being attacked by ISIS and this is what lead Israeli journalists to investigate her claim further, realizing that there is a complete lack of data to support her claims.

From the moment the story broke, the Associated Press had noted that the story “did not specify the number of cases it had documented or identify any victims, even anonymously” and that its authors “declined to say whether they had spoken to victims,”

Ynet, the media outlet affiliated with Yedioth Ahronoth has also questioned the source noting that Elkayam-Levy has conned Jewish donors and channeled the money into her personal bank account. Elkayam-Levy has also appealed for $8 million to fund her “civil commission”.

Members of Congress turned to people who work with Israel and asked what this was about – did Israel create a commission?” The answer? No. Elkayam-Levy apparently just started calling herself the "civil commission" and the money was going to her personal accounts.

Israel’s Channel 13 has also questioned Elkayam-Levy’s credibility. The NYT has retracted everything they said based on her story and all the media networks are now distancing themselves from her.

Look, we just had a Congresswoman deliver a response to the State of the Union that included a story of a 12-year old girl being trafficked as part of her attack on Biden's immigration policy. it turned out the event occurred in Mexico when Bush was still the U.S. president and had NOTHING to do with Biden's policies.

We need to understand that isolated story-tellers in a world of hate can't be relied upon as indisputable evidence. If the rapes and beheadings were real, there would have been data. Even if the victims were killed, their families would have filed reports. The government agencies dealing with the bodies would have filed reports. The hospitals dealing with survivors would have filed reports. And yet, there are NO such reports.

I was going to dive into the other articles too, but this first one is sufficient enough to make my point.

This article starts off by saying "Video test... (show quote)

So, you didn't actually view the video evidence yourself, thus you continue to deny reality. You deny the validity of the forensic examinations as well. Your opinions are NOT facts.

Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA

pegw wrote:

I see Israel as needing weapons and support to continue their nefarious ways in Gaza
The trigger happy Israelis have been going too far for months. I see Biden finally coming around to that conclusion. President Biden isn't as week as the MAGA idiots think he is. We still haven't goven a foreign aid package to the Israelis

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You prove once again how ignorant you are about the world around you!
Israel is surrounded by muslims whose religion is the destruction of Israel and anyone who is not a member of their cult. Everyday is a challenge to their very survival.
Israel never asked for a handout, they asked to purchase items from their oldest ally, which the idiot in the Whitehouse has not done.
I imagine your hardened heart would soften were it one of your family or friends who was murdered, tortured, or raped by the vermin, hamas. Probably not because democrats are heartless!

Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA

Salvatore wrote:

liberalhunter,
I would love to see Netanyahu bitch slap Joe Biden! Then Netanyahu tells him, "you have ruined the United States and your not going to ruin Israel, mind your own business."

HOOAH !!!!!!!!!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Justice101 wrote:

So, you didn't actually view the video evidence yourself, thus you continue to deny reality. You deny the validity of the forensic examinations as well. Your opinions are NOT facts.

The truth doesn't fit the little Pri**'s agenda.

straightUp Loc: California

wilpharm wrote:

I guess what is happening at out southern border is Joes version of American & Christian Values???

What is happening at the southern border is that our underfunded immigration system is being overwhelmed by refugees from places like Venezuela, where the already troubled economy collapsed under Trump's sanctions. Where American and Christian values come in is where Biden is trying to save these refugees from the inhumanity they face as a result.

wilpharm wrote:

wwHow many are YOU feeding??

Ah, yes... Canned response #214... "Don't like immigrants? Tired of liberals saying we should help them? Try asking a liberal if he's helping any of them personally. That'll shut them up."

Seriously, the lamest response possible... That's like telling someone he has no right to support the war on terrorism unless he's personally killing terrorists with own gun.

As an individual, I don't have the capacity to save all the refugees anymore than I have the capacity to wage war on international terrorism with just me, my dog and my shotgun. As an individual, I don't have the power to give immigrants the official documents they need to get legitimate jobs and start paying taxes either.

Don't be stupid. The crisis at the border is a big problem that requires the action of a big government, especially since the big government is creating the problem to start with.

I will be more than happy to see my tax dollars being spent on upgrading our immigration system to increase its capacity, save these refugees from danger and despair and help them assimilate into our society.

straightUp Loc: California

Justice101 wrote:

So, you didn't actually view the video evidence yourself.

What video evidence? None of your links point to ANY video evidence of rape or mutilation. You're screaming that there's all this video evidence and yet you can't even point to one.

Try it... I dare you.

So far you've listed five articles none of which present any video evidence of what you are claiming. Yes, I read those articles, I just didn't feel the need to comment on them because it would be the same comment for ALL of them... there's no evidence! It's all 100% hearsay.

Seriously, I don't know why you folks think that the "truth" can be proven by a large number of baseless accusations but it doesn't work that way. One video that proves the rapes actually occurred when and where the story says it did is all you need. So find it.

Justice101 wrote:

thus you continue to deny reality.

What reality? The reality that you can't prove? The reality that so far NO ONE has been able to prove?

Justice101 wrote:

You deny the validity of the forensic examinations as well.

Forensic examinations have proven that people were maimed. Reviews of Israeli operations show that many people on October 7th were maimed by "friendly-fire". Israel uses American Hellfire air-to-surface missiles to target people which can result in bodies literally being blown apart.

It turns out the dead baby that was reported to have been dismembered by Hamas terrorists was actually a bag of body parts collected from the aftermath of an Israeli Hellfire attack.

The forensic reports that I've seen claiming evidence of rape, point to things like crushed pelvic bones, which is actually more likely to happen as a result of a missile attack than a rape.

Justice101 wrote:

Your opinions are NOT facts

You and several others here always resort to this response when you have no argument. You just throw up your hands and say opinions are NOT facts... as if we don't know that.

What makes this a foolish response is when the person you are arguing with isn't even claiming any facts. YOU are the one insisting that these claims of rape and multination are facts. Not me. I'm the one saying that these opinions you cite lack sufficient evidence to call them facts. So if anyone should be reminding the other that his opinions are not facts, it should be me. Not you.

straightUp Loc: California

Salvatore wrote:

liberalhunter,
I would love to see Netanyahu bitch slap Joe Biden! Then Netanyahu tells him, "you have ruined the United States and your not going to ruin Israel, mind your own business."

LOL - You folks and your fantasies. I bet Hollywood could produce a dramatization of that fantasy and sell it you as pornography. You'd be in the bathroom all day. Ha ha ha!

Justice101

straightUp wrote:

You and several others here always resort to this ... (show quote)

You merely posted your unproven BS to evoke a reaction. Troll.

straightUp Loc: California

Jim0001 wrote:

You prove once again how ignorant you are about the world around you!
Israel is surrounded by muslims whose religion is the destruction of Israel and anyone who is not a member of their cult.

Why would you accuse someone of being ignorant about the world around them and then follow that with a statement that so clearly proves your own ignorance?

Islam is NOT defined by the destruction of Israel. Israel isn't even mentioned in the Koran. What the Koran DOES say is that Muslims should not be ruled by foreign kings and this is the basis for the Islamic Resistance, which is a resistance to ALL western powers trying to take control of the Middle-East which is primarily Muslim.

This includes the Anglo-American efforts to control oil in the middle-east to the point of installing puppet governments in places like Iran and Iraq and it also includes the Zionist take-over of Palestine where land was forcefully taken from Muslims and freely given to Jews from Europe and America.

Most Muslims in the region are just like people all around the world where they just want to be left alone. Many of them have already given up on seeking justice for the invasion of immigrants encouraged by the Zionists that Israel was founded on. Many of them would now be satisfied with a two-state solution.

But Israel has never wanted a two-state solution because the original plan was to take ALL of Palestine from the river to the sea... so it's the existence of Palestine that actually IS being destroyed. As part of this process, Zionist Israel is illegally occupying three territories and subjecting the Palestinian people in these territories to inhumane conditions as they continue the slow purge of Palestinian people and culture.

So it's no surprise to see factions like Hamas form and join the Islamic Resistance as a result. It's called blowback. Yes, THESE people want to destroy Israel and although I don't agree, I can't say I blame them for feeling that way.

Jim0001 wrote:

Everyday is a challenge to their very survival.

For the Palestinians, yes... for Israel, not so much. The forces that seek the destruction of Israel are weak and have very limited support. If Israelis were as threatened as you pretend, they wouldn't be setting up fun music festivals within earshot of Gaza, where Palestinians are imprisoned and subjected to hunger and disease.

Jim0001 wrote:

Israel never asked for a handout, they asked to purchase items from their oldest ally, which the idiot in the Whitehouse has not done.

Israel has been on the top of the list for handouts ever since Carter brokered that deal in Camp David. No country in the world get's more money from the U.S. than Israel does.

Jim0001 wrote:

I imagine your hardened heart would soften were it one of your family or friends who was murdered, tortured, or raped by the vermin, hamas. Probably not because democrats are heartless!

Problem there is that there's no evidence that Hamas actually DID any of those things. But Israel does it to Palestinians all the time. There are thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israel that were never tried. Many of them are children. These prisoners ARE tortured routinely. They are often blindfolded and shackled to fences for days on end. Many of them have injuries caused by shackles that lead to amputations.

Basically, what you are doing here is packaging up all the inhumane actions of Israel and projecting it on the Palestinians. You're charging the victims with the crimes. And you have the gall to question the hearts of others?

Gatsby

Justice101 wrote:

So, you didn't actually view the video evidence yourself, thus you continue to deny reality. You deny the validity of the forensic examinations as well. Your opinions are NOT facts.

Your so called "facts" are nothing but propaganda, put out by Hamas, and their supporters.

If You support Hamas, then You too are a BARBARIAN!

Justice101

Gatsby wrote:

Your so called "facts" are nothing but propaganda, put out by Hamas, and their supporters.

If You support Hamas, then You too are a BARBARIAN!

Are you directing your statements to me or to StraightUp? I am in support of Israel.

Gatsby

Justice101 wrote:

Are you directing your statements to me or to StraightUp? I am in support of Israel.

You're right, my response was meant for StraightUp, please accept my apology for my mistake

straightUp Loc: California

Justice101 wrote:

You merely posted your unproven BS to evoke a reaction. Troll.

Maybe you're just too stupid to understand.

YOU are the one posting the opinion that Hamas was raping and mutilating people and insisting it's a fact.
What I am doing is asking you to prove it.
Asking someone to prove something is not "unproven BS".

You sent me some links, I assume because you're too lazy or incapable to actually make a case.
I read the links and simply pointed out why they don't actually prove anything... and I even explained why.
Pointing to a lack of evidence is not "unproven BS" either.

I asked you to show me ONE video that proves your claim
You haven't done that and I'm betting you can't.
And in case you didn't know... asking for evidence is not "unproven BS" either.

Look Sparky,

Anyone can tell a fake story.
Anyone can post pictures of carnage and lie about what caused it.
I'm sorry if that's all you have. But without any testimonies from eye-witnesses, or actual videos of the events themselves or even official records related to the events, it's just not conclusive.

That's not an opinion. That's a standard practice in journalism AND law. So don't get all angry with me just because I asked you for proof that you can't find.

Justice101

straightUp wrote:

Maybe you're just too stupid to understand. br b... (show quote)

You are the one telling a fake story Slick. I responded with several links to prove you didn't have the facts. You're still a troll.