jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

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Radiance3

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You are talking nonsense. Hamas started the war. Hamas and the Muslims are the criminals. Until they are gone from Gaza, Israel won't stop fighting. Israel is a very tiny country. The smallest in the world. Why are these greedy bastard Muslims taking more of their small land. They already took 99% of that. And now they want to own whole of what was given by God to Israel. Israel is a victim. Go away, and join the rug head criminals! Bring Joe Biden with you!

Salvatore

liberalhunter,
I would love to see Netanyahu bitch slap Joe Biden! Then Netanyahu tells him, "you have ruined the United States and your not going to ruin Israel, mind your own business."

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Wonttakeitanymore

Bidet couldn’t slap his own ass! Bibi won’t take it

Wonttakeitanymore

Cheating ain’t beatin!!

straightUp Loc: California

Israel has been frustrating every president since Carter... Trump being the exception, mostly because he's too stupid to even know what's going on. He just makes gestures to see what gives him the biggest cheers.

The problem is that the Pro-Israeli Lobby in Washington is very powerful... Otherwise, Israel would have been cut off from America's money pipe a long time ago. But Netanyahu is taking this to a level we haven't seen before. So the pressure is on.

I've already expressed my opinion on the matter when I posted about an international coalition and an invasion of the occupied territories to remove the Israeli occupation and establish a two-state solution. It's a drastic call, but no more drastic than Israel's current genocide on the Palestinian people.

Now evidence is coming out that Israel lied about the rapes and killings on October 7th in order to encourage public support for the slaughtering of Palestinians. I kind of wondered about that when no names were mentioned in the stories. Every Israeli name listed in media reports were taken hostage but were not connected to any reports of rape. People died from crossfire including one baby. There is no evidence of dismemberment or cooking babies in ovens.

Experts are also pointing out that a lot of the footage from October 7th include damage that could have only resulted from Israeli Hellfire, such as melted cars and now it's leaking out that many if not most of the deaths on that day were from Israeli fire not Hamas.

I think the existence of Israel by virtue of a generation that knows no other home, should be defended. But I also think the Palestinian people should be liberated from the inhumanity of the Israeli occupation.

I support Biden's strong words and I would support him even more if he took matters to the next level.

billlingle

This is the classical rock and a hard place. If anyone can pull it off, though, it's Biden. Thank god that Fat Donny the Rapist isn't in charge. I'm afraid he would come up with a "solution" in the same ilk as his COVID solution to inject chlorine bleach or stick a high intensity light up your (not my) ass. Biden has been involved it these kinds of negotiations all his life. Trump's experience has been in court being sued for not paying his bills and has recently expanded this field of knowledge by adding four indictments and 91 felony charges. That makes him an ideal candidate for a 7 to 15 stretch but doesn't say much for trust and integrity.

Justice101

Where is your new evidence coming out from that says Israel lied about the rapes? Did you see the Go-pro and cell phone footage from October 7th that goes against your false narrative? Many REAL journalists have.

Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67629181

https://themedialine.org/top-stories/evidence-on-display-at-israels-forensic-pathology-center-confirms-hamas-atrocities/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/23/israel-shows-footage-of-hamas-killings-to-counter-denial-of-atrocities

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-sexual-violence-rape-torture-october-7-un-report/


WORLD
U.N. says "reasonable grounds to believe" Hamas carried out sexual attacks on Oct. 7, and likely still is
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-sexual-violence-rape-torture-october-7-un-report/

straightUp Loc: California

It's not there is any new evidence that it didn't happen. It's that there was never any evidence that it did and people are starting to notice that.


Despite the suggestions that came with the footage, what I saw doesn't actually prove anything. Many REAL journalists and networks that took the Israeli reports as fact in the heat of the moment have since retracted their stories because the footage couldn't actually be linked to the story and there was a complete absence of testimony from ANY supposed victims or their surviving families. CNN being one example. Even Biden had to retract the narrative about systemic rapes.

In other words... there are pictures of carnage being submitted by angry people with baseless assertions about what caused the carnage.



This article starts off by saying "Video testimony of an eyewitness at the Nova music festival, shown to journalists by Israeli police, detailed the gang rape, mutilation and execution of one victim."

So it's not video coverage of the event... It's video testimony of one person describing the event. Bear in mind that a lot of Israelis hate Palestinians with a passion so we have to expect some of them to turn a kidnapping spree into an orgy of rape and carnage. And a REAL journalist already knows that you can't rely on one source.

None of the photos in the article show any evidence of rape or mutilation. One is a photo of the woman who single-handedly made the case to the Israeli authorities based on her unproven story and some photos of mutilations. That's Dr Cochav Elkayam-Levy, who was actually awarded by the Israeli government for her "work" in presenting her story... which helped Israel gain popular support for the genocide.

It turns out that some her her photos were of Kurdish women after being attacked by ISIS and this is what lead Israeli journalists to investigate her claim further, realizing that there is a complete lack of data to support her claims.

From the moment the story broke, the Associated Press had noted that the story “did not specify the number of cases it had documented or identify any victims, even anonymously” and that its authors “declined to say whether they had spoken to victims,”

Ynet, the media outlet affiliated with Yedioth Ahronoth has also questioned the source noting that Elkayam-Levy has conned Jewish donors and channeled the money into her personal bank account. Elkayam-Levy has also appealed for $8 million to fund her “civil commission”.

Members of Congress turned to people who work with Israel and asked what this was about – did Israel create a commission?” The answer? No. Elkayam-Levy apparently just started calling herself the "civil commission" and the money was going to her personal accounts.

Israel’s Channel 13 has also questioned Elkayam-Levy’s credibility. The NYT has retracted everything they said based on her story and all the media networks are now distancing themselves from her.

Look, we just had a Congresswoman deliver a response to the State of the Union that included a story of a 12-year old girl being trafficked as part of her attack on Biden's immigration policy. it turned out the event occurred in Mexico when Bush was still the U.S. president and had NOTHING to do with Biden's policies.

We need to understand that isolated story-tellers in a world of hate can't be relied upon as indisputable evidence. If the rapes and beheadings were real, there would have been data. Even if the victims were killed, their families would have filed reports. The government agencies dealing with the bodies would have filed reports. The hospitals dealing with survivors would have filed reports. And yet, there are NO such reports.

I was going to dive into the other articles too, but this first one is sufficient enough to make my point.

wilpharm

Joe wallops his diapers, you edjit

wilpharm

yep, kinda like obammys red line in the sand...really scared the ragheads

wilpharm

straightUp Loc: California

We already know what Trump's position on this is. When he took credit for the work his son-in-law, Jaret Kushner did to create "The Deal of the Century" aka., the Abraham Accords, it was the first so-called "peace deal" ever brokered by a U.S. president that didn't actually include any agreement between enemies.

Carter, Clinton and Obama were all involved in negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian people in order to promote peace between them. Kushner left the the Palestinians completely out of the deal and negotiated a deal instead between Israel and some Gulf states that were NEVER at war with them in the first place for the purpose of opening up trade for cell phones.

Trump also excluded the Palestinian people from any negotiation when he moved the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and declared that Jerusalem belongs to Israel 100%, thereby dismissing a Muslim claim that goes back more than a thousand years.

When Trump was in office, he made no effort to stop Israel from cutting off the Palestinians from any and all negotiations. It was the first time in decades the Palestinians were completely shut out and it's logical to suspect that this is why Hamas went on a kidnapping spree on October 7th. To regain some leverage with which to negotiate.

We see it in the movies all the time... "Fine you don't want to negotiate? Well, maybe this will change your mind. We have your daughter."

In the short time, they were able to breech the security fence, Hamas collected hundreds of hostages. Meanwhile, all the stories of rape, mutilation and wanton murder are so far, unsubstantiated. It seems pretty clear to me that Hamas was trying to use hostages to force Israel back to the table.

So once again, dumbass Donny creates another fiasco without even realizing it.

As it turns out, it didn't work because Netanyahu doesn't care about the hostages... as proven by the fact that he is ordering airstrikes on the locations where they are suspected to be. There is also the fact that most of the hostages came from a part of southern Israel where people tend to lean left politically and have been opposing Netanyahu's hard-right political party, Likud for years.

It's hard to say what would happen if Trump were in office today. I would venture to guess he would support Netanyahu's genocide 100% WITHOUT any caution about the violations of human rights or international law. That would make the job a lot easier but it would also abandon the American and Christian values of humanity and justice that Biden is trying to defend.

wilpharm

I guess what is happening at out southern border is Joes version of American & Christian Values??? wwHow many are YOU feeding??