It's all opinion (Page 10): Don't you read? It wouldn't have until some arbitrary number; 5000 a week is surpassed. That doesn't count "gottaways." That's per week dumba**. The next...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

NotMAGA wrote:

But don't you see? It WOULD have closed it. Immediately. The trigger was 5000 a day, which all here say is already happening. So that would have triggered the closing as soon as the bill was signed by Joe

Don't you read? It wouldn't have until some arbitrary number; 5000 a week is surpassed. That doesn't count "gottaways." That's per week dumba**. The next week you get 5,000 more. I'm beginning to believe you really aren't very bright. if so, my apologies. Maybe you should find a site for the slow kids.

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

JFlorio wrote:

Compassion huh? How many immigrants are staying with you? Hypocrite. Why should we spend billions on illegals flooding our border? They need to go home and fix their country, not be subsidized by American workers. Shut the border as Trump did. Lying Joe could do it tomorrow. Still don't have the balls to admit you're for open borders. typical Bidenette.

Go back to the Constitution and see what branch has responsibility for immigration and the border. Unless there is a public health emergency or invasion by a foreign army, it is not the Executive. It's Congress.

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

JFlorio wrote:

Don't you read? It wouldn't have until some arbitrary number; 5000 a week is surpassed. That doesn't count "gottaways." That's per week dumba**. The next week you get 5,000 more. I'm beginning to believe you really aren't very bright. if so, my apologies. Maybe you should find a site for the slow kids.

Ok, I'm done for today J. I have other things to do. Have a nice day. The sun is shining here so I'm feeling better. , ☀️ 😊

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

NotMAGA wrote:

Go back to the Constitution and see what branch has responsibility for immigration and the border. Unless there is a public health emergency or invasion by a foreign army, it is not the Executive. It's Congress.

B.S.. Presidents do all kinds of shit with E.O.’s. This invasion could be declared an emergency.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

NotMAGA wrote:

Go back to the Constitution and see what branch has responsibility for immigration and the border. Unless there is a public health emergency or invasion by a foreign army, it is not the Executive. It's Congress.

The bill would force the Department of Homeland Security to shutter the border if daily illegal crossings top 5,000 migrants on average or 8,500 in a single day.
Unaccompanied minors from countries other than Mexico and Canada wouldn’t count toward that total.
The administration could only reopen the border if encounters of illegal crossings drop to 75 percent of the number that initially triggered the closure.

DHS would also have the power to shut down the border if crossings average more than 4,000 a day for a week, and Biden has signaled he would aggressively use that authority.

During a “border shutdown,” many people trying to cross the U.S.-Mexico border would be quickly deported. But exceptions would be made for unaccompanied minors and people who meet the requirements of the United Nations Convention Against Torture rules.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/05/biden-bipartisan-immigration-deal-00139558

Knightlady

NotMAGA wrote:

I already know why. Even DJ himself admitted he told them they shouldn't let it pass.

Not attacking, but why was HR2 sitting on Schumers' desk and not being discussed and compromised on? The house passed it.

Is there a chance of bipartisan bill at all, do you think?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

America 1 wrote:

The bill would force the Department of Homeland Se... (show quote)

I believe I misspoke earlier and said 5,000/week. If that's incorrect the bills even worse than I thought. What this debate boils down to is Democrats don't have the integrity to admit, you do not need 300 pages of a bill to shut the border, or billions more dollars. It's obvious the Biden adminstration wants open borders. I just don't understand why they won't admit it.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

NotMAGA wrote:

If there are already that many, the border would be closed. If Republicans had allowed the immigration bill to pass the border would have been closed months ago.

No it wouldn't be closed. The bill would have allowed for the continued entry into the country, more agents to "process" more immigrants if thats what you want to call what we been doing, Processing! So if we been "processing these people into the country, then we've processed in drug and sex trafficers, criminals, gang members and possible terrorist along with "those people we are feeding, housing, educating and flying all over the country".

microphor Loc: Home is TN

NotMAGA wrote:

You didn't read my comment. I never said they said that. But what they DO do, what most RWN outlets do, and even some on the left, is focus on the few really horrible crimes committed by people in the US illegally.
What I DID write was...
"....IF you ask [either of them]..."

There shouldn't be any! That's the point. Should not be illegals in our country to committ the crimes. How many of your kids would need to be killed by people who shouldn't be here, before it would be too many?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

microphor wrote:

There shouldn't be any! That's the point. Should not be illegals in our country to committ the crimes. How many of your kids would need to be killed by people who shouldn't be here, before it would be too many?

This is exactly why I started insulting him. He tries to bait you in by seeming reasoned and wanting to find common ground. He knows exactly what that bill doesn’t do. We’ve given him facts. He’s either too cowardly to admit he’s for open borders or he’s just trolling. Probably both.

microphor Loc: Home is TN

JFlorio wrote:

This is exactly why I started insulting him. He tries to bait you in by seeming reasoned and wanting to find common ground. He knows exactly what that bill doesn’t do. We’ve given him facts. He’s either too cowardly to admit he’s for open borders or he’s just trolling. Probably both.

I agree!

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

NotMAGA wrote:

<Sigh> 🙄
Because the immigration bill was killed by the GOP. Even in the Senate, where there had been enough people to pass it - though the House Speaker had already said he would not bring it up for a vote even it had gotten through the Senate.

Oh, BS. Boden can fix it with the swipe of a pen.

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Knightlady

AuntiE wrote:

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AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

Knightlady wrote:

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