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Apr 3, 2024 19:43:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Knightlady wrote:
Probably true.

I, personally, would think the Head General dudes (Milley and what's his name) would have advised to deploy more troops on the ground beforehand.

I haven't really read much about it since it happened then I researched it. I'm sure alot has come out since then.


You are correct. In fact the pentagon did not want a withdrawal at all.. but it is a long done deal now and is what it is..

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Apr 3, 2024 19:50:21   #
son of witless
 
permafrost wrote:
It maybe a problem for some to understand.. like honoring the word (in the voice of trump) of our country...


Trump negotiated a deal that he recognized was only a loose framework. Even during Trump's last year, everything was depending on Baghram Airbase and it's power of retaliation. That was why there were no US combat deaths in Afghanistan during Trump's last year.

But I digress. You said something I should have jumped on with ferocity. It is absolutely hysterical that you believe President Biden was honor bound to obey Trump terms to an enemy who had no intention of sticking to it's promises unless it was under the severe threat of American retribution, yet you cheered when Joe Biden reversed every other Trump commitment in terms of economic policy, border policy, Trans rights, crime, etc.

There is no way Trump would have stuck to his negotiated time table with out having a severe military deterrent in place to insure the Taliban kept to their agreements. That Joe Biden and his military experts were surprised when Afghanistan collapsed is as purely stupid as when Joe Biden and his economic team were surprised that inflation was not transitory.

President Biden and his teams are constantly being shocked that their predictions are wrong. Such a man should have never been given the reins of power over our great nation.

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Apr 3, 2024 20:29:47   #
Knightlady
 
permafrost wrote:
You are correct. In fact the pentagon did not want a withdrawal at all.. but it is a long done deal now and is what it is..


That, my dear, is very true

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Apr 3, 2024 21:09:10   #
BIRDMAN
 
permafrost wrote:
what do you orange mobsters consider proof???? I have posted all sorts of backup and then a right wing dork shouts never proved.... you people do not even live in a logical part of the world ... or maybe you own bubble serves you shelter for the night.


Proof please



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Apr 3, 2024 21:40:31   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
deploying troops is not a one day task... time is an element..


January twentieth to august thirty first. seven plus months. Biden failed

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Apr 3, 2024 21:41:41   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
the violations by the Taliban began before Joe took office.. yet trump did nothing to change the terms or timeline.. the military did make a few attacks on Taliban units in the afghan rural areas..


If the violations by the Taliban didn't occur to Joe took office.What the f*** was Trump supposed to do about it?He wasn't the president anymore

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Apr 3, 2024 23:48:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
microphor wrote:
If the violations by the Taliban didn't occur to Joe took office.What the f*** was Trump supposed to do about it?He wasn't the president anymore


The Taliban violations took place while trump was still watching TV in the oval office.. just weeks after the trump surrender.. what did trump do? He pulled out more american troops prematurely.. The Taliban took over the rural areas and set offenses in place and as soon as the official withdrawal ran the afghan forces off the map..

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Apr 3, 2024 23:50:38   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
microphor wrote:
January twentieth to august thirty first. seven plus months. Biden failed


Trump f*** it up. very probable on purpose.. no other president in our history ever surrendered to terrorists.. Trump the coward and fool is the only one ever in the centuries of our existence..

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Apr 4, 2024 06:10:21   #
PeterS
 
American Scene wrote:
Whatever happened to the commandment of not worshiping the 'golden idol'?

Of course, those commandments do not apply to the tribe of trump

Nice. There is nothing that Trump won't hawk for a buck. Golden Halos isn't past him and his followers so gullible they will buy anything that he sells...

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Apr 4, 2024 06:12:52   #
PeterS
 
microphor wrote:
If the violations by the Taliban didn't occur to Joe took office.What the f*** was Trump supposed to do about it?He wasn't the president anymore


Huh? Did you stick your finger in a wall socket? What does this have to do with Trump's fundraising endeavors or are you simply trying to deflect from that immoral piece of shit you people want for president?

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Apr 4, 2024 06:18:27   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
son of witless wrote:
The Trump agreement had nothing to do with the Biden Afghan failure. If it had the failure would have started before President Biden took office. Nobody was obligated to go along with the Trump plan, not even President Trump. If Trump had remained in office he could have revoked any part or the entire agreement at any time.

The piece of paper was worthless. The only thing that mattered was enforcement. Obviously the Taliban had no intention of honoring the Trump agreement if they didn't have to. Biden made sure they didn't have to. Trump understood, as Biden did not that everything depended on American force.

Biden and his advisors were the most incompetent military leadership in American history. This reminds me a lot of how Obama thoroughly mismanaged the Iraq withdrawal when he took over from George W. Bush. Only Biden's Afghan misadventure was ten times worse.
The Trump agreement had nothing to do with the Bid... (show quote)



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Apr 4, 2024 07:02:39   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
The Taliban violations took place while trump was still watching TV in the oval office.. just weeks after the trump surrender.. what did trump do? He pulled out more american troops prematurely.. The Taliban took over the rural areas and set offenses in place and as soon as the official withdrawal ran the afghan forces off the map..


Whart violations? Please be specific and show evidence of your statements.

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Apr 4, 2024 07:05:25   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
permafrost wrote:
Trump f*** it up. very probable on purpose.. no other president in our history ever surrendered to terrorists.. Trump the coward and fool is the only one ever in the centuries of our existence..


Your ignorance is appaling, example-we left Vietnam as losers. You make these stupid blanket statements about surrender and have absolutely no evidence of the statements.

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Apr 4, 2024 07:10:16   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
PeterS wrote:
Huh? Did you stick your finger in a wall socket? What does this have to do with Trump's fundraising endeavors or are you simply trying to deflect from that immoral piece of shit you people want for president?


ah, are you slow or cant you see I'm responding to your buddy Permi's comments. POS, your right about that. I sure dont want to vote in a racist, liar and plagerer who showers with his daughter and sells access. Actually rather he sell bibles!

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Apr 4, 2024 10:36:02   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
microphor wrote:
Perhaps you make s*** up in your head like permafrost.does and believe it, No evidence required.


That's all those two do and they're good at it and might as well throw in RR as well

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