Why 6 week abortion laws are just plain wrong: In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more important than biology and...

American Scene

In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more

important than biology and physiology.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

American Scene wrote:

In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more

important than biology and physiology.

Just another BS meme from the As man in his hatred and trolling

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Liberty Tree

American Scene wrote:

In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more

important than biology and physiology.

I cannot let this go. Your post is a lie. Heartbeat can be detected withing four to six weeks. Check it out.

EmilyD

American Scene wrote:

In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more

important than biology and physiology.

From the American College of Pediatricians:

When Human Life Begins

"ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.

It has been recognized for millennia that both a paternal (semen) and a maternal contribution are required for the formation of a new human life. The first recorded embryological reports are in the fifth century B.C. books of Hippocrates, who noted from the study of incubating chicken eggs that the nature of the bird can be likened to that of the man. A century later, Aristotle studied the chick and other embryos but incorrectly thought that they arose from a formless mass of semen combined with menstrual blood. In 1677, Hamm and Leeuwenhoek observed spermatozoa under the microscope, but thought they contained miniature humans. Spallanzani demonstrated in 1775 that both oocyte and sperm were necessary. In 1827, von Baer observed oocytes in the ovarian follicle and in the Fallopian tube and blastocysts in the uterus of a dog.

Finally, it was with the advent of the cell theory developed by Schleiden and Schwann in 1839 that it was recognized that the embryo develops from the single-celled zygote. Directly based upon this observation and the knowledge that the single-celled zygote was alive and an independent being, in 1859 the American Medical Association published a statement strongly opposing abortion, particularly commenting on the independence of the zygote during the time between its formation and its implantation.

Although the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology in 1965 attempted to redefine “conception” to mean implantation rather than fertilization, medical dictionaries and even English language dictionaries both before and after 1966 define “conception” as synonymous with fertilization (sometimes via the intermediary term of “fecundation”). Moore’s 1974 edition of a human embryology textbook states that development is a continuous process that begins when an ovum is fertilized by a sperm and ends at death. It is a process of change and growth that transforms the zygote, a single cell, into a multicellular adult human being. Moore’s 2008 edition emphasizes that development does not end at birth but extends into early adulthood. Professor Emeritus of Human Embryology of the University of Arizona School of Medicine, Dr. C. Ward Kischer, affirms that “Every human embryologist, worldwide, states that the life of the new individual human being begins at fertilization (conception).” Even authors who philosophically lean towards not attributing the same value to human life at the one-cell stage as they do to later stages of development admit that “As far as human ‘life’ per se, it is, for the most part, uncontroversial among the scientific and philosophical community that life begins at the moment when the genetic information contained in the sperm and ovum combine to form a genetically unique cell.” J.T. Eberl goes on to say – and this is really the debate:

“However, what is controversial is whether this genetically unique cell should be considered a human person.”

Nonetheless, one could sensibly make the case that “personhood” can only exist in a living human being and that the division of these two entities is arbitrary at best.

In the last century, and particularly in the last decades, much more detailed observation has been made of the first 24 hours of the life of a human being. During this time the cell membranes of a sperm and ovum fuse and the first cell division occurs. When during this 24 hours does, a new human life begin? Embryologists are less united on this question. This Statement aims to clarify this issue.

During the first 24 hours, once the sperm and egg bind to each other, the membranes of these two cells fuse, creating in less than a second a single hybrid cell: the zygote, or one-cell embryo. To protect his or her bodily integrity, within minutes the zygote initiates changes in its ionic composition, releasing zinc in a spark that induces “egg activation,” first modifying the surrounding zona pellucida blocking further sperm binding to the cell surface. Cooperation between sperm and egg components to achieve replication of DNA, cell division, and growth occurs as maternally and paternally derived factors in the zygote begin interacting with and chemically modifying each other to initiate the final round of meiotic division in the maternally derived nucleus to enable DNA replication.

Finally, the nuclear membranes of the pronuclei break down (called syngamy—technically, pronuclear membranes). No new nuclear membrane encompassing both pronuclei is formed; rather, mitosis occurs and two cells, each with its own identical nucleus encased in a nuclear membrane, are formed.

Furthermore, studies with mice embryos demonstrate that despite the plasticity of which allows disrupted blastomeres to form an entire organism, ordinarily the polarity of the embryo is determined by the site of sperm penetration. (Evidence from other mammalian species suggests that the same may be true in humans, but does not offer definitive proof).

Some embryologists consider fertilization a day-long process and regard the beginning of human life as occurring near the end of this process at syngamy, whereas others consider the time of cell membrane fusion when the embryo gives evidence of being a different kind of cell than either oocyte or sperm, to be the beginning of a new human life, since within minutes the new embryo acts to prevent the merger of another sperm with itself and starts the business of self-replication. The single-celled embryo is a very different kind of cell than that of sperm or oocyte, and contains a unique genome that will determine most future bodily features and functions of his or her lifetime.

An organism is defined as “(1) a complex structure of interdependent and subordinate elements whose relations and properties are largely determined by their function in the whole, and (2) an individual constituted to carry on the activities of life by means of organs separate in function but mutually dependent: a living being.”

It is clear that from the time of cell fusion, the embryo consists of elements (from both maternal and paternal origin) which function interdependently in a coordinated manner to carry on the function of the development of the human organism. From this definition, the single-celled embryo is not just a cell, but an organism, a living being, a human being.

The American College of Pediatricians concurs with the body of scientific evidence that corroborates that a unique human life starts when the sperm and egg bind to each other in a process of fusion of their respective membranes and a single hybrid cell called a zygote, or one-cell embryo, is created.

▶▶▶▶▶▶▶As physicians dedicated both to scientific truth and to the Hippocratic tradition, the College values all human lives equally from the moment of conception (fertilization) until natural death. Consistent with its mission to “enable all children to reach their optimal physical and emotional health and well-being,” the College, therefore, opposes active measures that would prematurely end the life of any child at any stage of development from conception to natural death."

Original author: Fred de Miranda, MD, March 2004
Updated: Dr. Patricia Lee June, MD, March 2017

https://acpeds.org/position-statements/when-human-life-begins

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American Scene

LogicallyRight wrote:

Just another BS meme from the As man in his hatred and trolling

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Change your diaper, child troll

LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)

LogicallyRight wrote:

Just another BS meme from the As man in his hatred and trolling

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So despite the meme is it true or not?

Liberty Tree

LostAggie66 wrote:

So despite the meme is it true or not?

Not true

BIRDMAN

American Scene wrote:

Change your diaper, child troll

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crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Liberty Tree wrote:

I cannot let this go. Your post is a lie. Heartbeat can be detected withing four to six weeks. Check it out.

Yep & the point of pain perception is from debated as between 6 weeks and six months.

May be his mother should have had one.

Can you imagine that two parents have to admit they spawned him?

Bruce123

Liberty Tree wrote:

I cannot let this go. Your post is a lie. Heartbeat can be detected withing four to six weeks. Check it out.

These people who support abortion are highlighting sin in its very essence. The very thought of ripping a child from the mother’s womb should be abhorrent to any human being.
Abortion shows us just how fallen the human race is.

Liberty Tree

Bruce123 wrote:

These people who support abortion are highlighting sin in its very essence. The very thought of ripping a child from the mother’s womb should be abhorrent to any human being.
Abortion shows us just how fallen the human race is.

So very true

BigJim

If human life is sacred, consider:
Nature tries to start a new human every time a woman ovulates. This is already more than half a human; it has one complete genome but needs s second from the male to develop. Nature has provided powerful sex urges in men and women to accomplish this. Defying this urge by contraception or even abstinence is effectively negligent homicide of the ovum.
Obviously taking this position is not acceptable as it would totally disrupt society. My point is that conception is a somewhat arbitrary place to say life begins. Passing laws making the fertilized ovum sacred but not the unfertilized is not fully reasonable. Even the early Catholic church had discussions on when "insolation", the introduction of a soul into the embryo occurred. Abortion is not intrinsically destructive to society; the presence of unwanted children is far more disruptive

Forkbassman Loc: Missouri

Liberty Tree wrote:

I cannot let this go. Your post is a lie. Heartbeat can be detected withing four to six weeks. Check it out.

You are exactly right!

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

At least they added the big three exceptions. Ectopic pregnancies generally don't begin to cause any symptoms until after 6 weeks. The embryo never survives in an ectopic pregnancy and if the pregnancy is not terminated and the Fallopian tube ruptures the resultant internal bleeding can lead to the death of the mother.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

American Scene wrote:

In addition to being politically stupid, maga cons and ignorant talking heads think that religion is more

important than biology and physiology.

No matter how you twist or try to distort it you're advocating the premeditated murder of a human life. You are a monster. I know exactly how monsters who kill children will and should be treated. Although I take no joy in it, I am not regretful that you have chosen hell for yourself. Judas was a more honorable man than a person like you.