Bassman65 wrote:
They would use them if their backs are against the wall. It’s estimated they have between 75 to 400 nuclear warheads!
Again... That's what they say...
Bassman65 wrote:
You suggestion would not work based on that factor alone,
My suggestion won't work because of the racist/religious factors in the U.S. Many here are actually convinced that the End Times are approaching and that the Jews are supposed to drive the Muslims away so they can rebuild the temple and Jesus will come back and convert all the Jews into Christians. Despite the utter ridiculous of such drivel they seriously believe it and politicians here don't want to risk loosing their votes.
If it wasn't for that, Israel probably wouldn't stand a chance. Even if they have nuclear weapons all they have to do is fire one off and other nuclear powers, such as Russia and China would fire back assuring Israel's destruction.
Bassman65 wrote:
also many including myself believes Israel has the right to exist.
What makes you think I don't? If you actually read my post instead of just reacting to what you THINK I am saying you would have noticed that I'm referring to a two state solution. If Israel isn't allowed to exists it wouldn't be a two-state solution now, would it?
Why do so many people do this? They argue against a two-state solution and immediately reach for the "Israel has a right to exist" card. It really shows a lack of intelligence.
BTW, I don't believe Israel has a God-given right to exist. I'm calling BS on that fantasy. I defend Israel's right to exist for one reason and one reason only. Since around 1960 we can rest assured that there is a generation of people who were born in Israel and have no other place to call home. THIS is why *I* defend Israel's right to exist despite the fact that it was founded on the heinous acts of terrorism.
Bassman65 wrote:
History didn’t just start in that region with the birth of Israel, the conflict goes further back than that.
The ancient Jewish kingdoms are relics of the past and have ZERO relevancy to the modern world. The Zionist claim on the land is no more justified than suggesting we give America back the indigenous people that were here first.
And if you know anything about the history... the Jews weren't the first one's in Holy Land either. They invaded the land and shed blood for years before establishing their kingdoms. Eventually, others came along and kicked their assess... What goes around comes around.
But none of that matters now. It's all as they say "ancient history". I mean it's been over 2,000 years for crying out loud. We don't even have reliable methods to confirm the stories.
So as far as I am concerned, the history that matters really only started in the late 19th century when the Zionists established a movement to reclaim Palestine (as it WAS called then) by forcing the Arabs off the land through various underhanded legal moves with the Ottoman Empire and turn it into a country for Jews only. These Zionists are not even Semitic, they're Indo-European Jews. It's the Arabs that are in fact Semitic along with the original Jews.
Just to be clear, I am specifically anti-Zionist and harbor no ill feelings toward Jewish people in general. In fact I stand with the ultra-orthodox Jews that are vehemently protesting Israel's actions because they think it's an abomination of Judaism. My conversations with them only confirms in my mind how Israel is really NOT about the "plight of the Jews". It far more about the greed for land and the will to kill people for it. It's also more about the delusions of the Christian fanatics supporting them.
Sorry, if you don't like what I have to say. But these things need to be said.