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Biden cancels 6 more Billion in student loans--- Call it what you want-- It is good that he did it .
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Mar 23, 2024 15:31:58   #
billlingle
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Why is it goid that a President can ignore an order of the SCOTUS? Why is it good to increase the debt, relieve people of their responsibility, and spit in the face of those who honored their commitment. What is the definition of public service? How broad can it be?



By your statement you are saying that every kid that wants to go to college but can't afford it out of pocket must be forced to become indentured until they can pay the debt plus the interest. Until then the money that could have been used to buy a house insure stability or even educate their own kids will be pissed away by either a private lender or the federal government. This kind of program was BS to begin with and is BS today.

SCOTUS cannot order the president. The returns realized by leaving money in the hands of citizens are always greater than anything done by the government so the national debt will not suffer. The death knell of the national debt is rung every time a republican president gives another massive tax break to the insanely wealthy. The last one foisted upon us by Fat Donny the Loser added 7 TRILLION dollars to the debt and I don't recall any Joe Republican bitching about that one. If you feel that you were spit upon get a Kleenex and get over it. It would be like getting pissed off because a war came to an end because all those killed would not be avenged.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:37:22   #
martsiva
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
It is not buying votes . You have just jumped on the bandwagon of calling it that .


Biden DEFIED the Supreme Court`s Constitutional ruling in this matter so YES he is trying to buy votes!! He defied them and the Constitution!! How much more obvious does it have to get??

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Mar 23, 2024 15:41:30   #
billlingle
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
At 30 or 40 trillion in debt, what is a few more billion, right??


The answer to your statement insinuating that forgiving student debt will destroy the financial security of the nation is that you are under a misconception. Student debt is costing the country far more than the interest it makes on these loans. The newly graduated student is not able to do what is needed in order to get his/her life on track and productive and earning enough to pay taxes, make capital purchases, invest or create. The capital that these activities require is pledged to the government which is the worst, most non-productive hole into which it could be dumped. The taxes from a prosperous person as well as the boost to the economy realized from large capital purchases like homes and automobiles and investment is vastly greater than 2.75 to 5% gathered in interest. Making it more difficult for bright people to create is one of the deadly sins of any economy.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:44:46   #
billlingle
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I paid my way through college cutting fire wood and doing land surveys with a staff compass .and was debt free . I know others who have paid years on end of high
interest payments and still owe the principle amount . ---The interest rates are too damn high . The student loan deal is a failed program that was supposed to have an uplifting effect but has essentially put thousands under the burden of debt for their entire lives . A better plan is what is needed . A 2 year degree in a community college should be free to good students . I did not say bachelors or masters degree -med school- or law school . I said 2 year associates degree .
I paid my way through college cutting fire wood an... (show quote)



That would be a start that would reap far greater rewards for the government and the nation than what would be gathered and pissed away on god knows what by the government. Well stated.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:48:27   #
billlingle
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
It would be all right if Trump gets in and does what he wants too- right ?-- He is after all the one and only man who can solve all of our problems .



I think that you misstated your question. What he wants to do is to change our form of government to a fascist model. Who knows? With his new found hate for migrants and the horrible plans that he has stated to deal with them, fascism might even roll over into naziism. If you think that something like that would be a solution to the nation's problems the problem just might be with you.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:49:48   #
martsiva
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
What is building a wall and closing the borders and ditching NATO and the UN called if it is not buying votes ?


It`s called America first!! Trump did NOT ditch NATO nor the UN!! The UN is a globalist New World Order organization which should be disbanded and it`s not fair to this country to pick up the slack for countries who do not pay the obligations they agreed on when they joined NATO!! I told you before to dig deep into the UN agenda 2030! Did you??

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Mar 23, 2024 15:51:27   #
billlingle
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I am not a Trump suppoter but he could not do worse than Biden.



You may not be a supporter of Fat Donny the Loser but if you believe that Joe Biden is not doing a great job then you are spending far too much time listening to those who profit from your ignorance and not enough time seeking fact and truth. All it takes is a google search. Try "Biden's accomplishments in his first term", see what pops up. Try that with Fat Donny and you won't get much more than a blank page.

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Mar 23, 2024 15:58:29   #
billlingle
 
martsiva wrote:
It`s called America first!! Trump did NOT ditch NATO nor the UN!! The UN is a globalist New World Order organization which should be disbanded and it`s not fair to this country to pick up the slack for countries who do not pay the obligations they agreed on when they joined NATO!! I told you before to dig deep into the UN agenda 2030! Did you??



NATO is the reason that Fat Donny's heart throb Vlad has not attacked Poland and why Finland jumped at the opportunity to join when the creep attacked Ukraine. I pretty much agree on the futility of the UN given the fact that "permanent" seats are granted on the security council that requires only one vote from one of these permanent members to trash an entire worldwide program. The result is that the UN is shackled to the radiator as well as being toothless.

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Mar 23, 2024 16:17:13   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
billlingle wrote:
Biden is doing this because millions of Americans who were looking for the means to build a better life for themselves and their families were trying to swim with an anchor tied to their ass. The amount of progress that these people were capable of producing was reduced to a fraction because of their inability to do much of anything due to the impoverishment caused by the payments on these loans. It about time that our brightest and most ambitious be allowed to actually contribute to society before they die.
I can understand the frustration of those who have suffered through this nightmare knowing that those who have agreed to suffer accordingly might get some relief. The problem is that it is impossible to bring a disasterous program to an end without short changing those who were made to endure the entire process. All I can say is to take solace knowing that maybe your kid will get a fairer shake.
If Bidens efforts are appreciated by some to the extent that they begin to understand that he has the best interests of the nation and the American people as his prime concern and vote for him as a result all the better.
Biden is doing this because millions of Americans ... (show quote)


this. again and again and again.

Our sons were born at just the right time that we barely missed on all the terrific new things that came along for parents of adult children who were suffering through GWs economic downturn(s). It happens. Happy for those who were able to take advantage of the new dependent tax credits, the longer length of time they could be on mom and dads health insurance, and anything else that ours had already aged out of. And CHEERING for all the police, firefighters, doctors a,d nurses and teachers who were all on the front line during the pandemic, who had their payback months reset to ZERO if they had one late payment, or had to take a deferment during the downturn before switching careers to something that they wouldn’t have to worry would be shut down. Waitresses and waiters, retail workers, maids and others working in hospitality industries as a fallback from jobs that didn’t materialize after they got their 4 year degrees.

These are people who TRIED to pay by the rules, and but the rules were unfair.

For college grads who finished after 2001, trying to get a good start in life without coming from wealth has been like going to a casino. No matter what they tried, the House always won.

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Mar 23, 2024 16:50:49   #
dbirch
 
billlingle wrote:
Biden is doing this because millions of Americans who were looking for the means to build a better life for themselves and their families were trying to swim with an anchor tied to their ass. The amount of progress that these people were capable of producing was reduced to a fraction because of their inability to do much of anything due to the impoverishment caused by the payments on these loans. It about time that our brightest and most ambitious be allowed to actually contribute to society before they die.
I can understand the frustration of those who have suffered through this nightmare knowing that those who have agreed to suffer accordingly might get some relief. The problem is that it is impossible to bring a disasterous program to an end without short changing those who were made to endure the entire process. All I can say is to take solace knowing that maybe your kid will get a fairer shake.
If Bidens efforts are appreciated by some to the extent that they begin to understand that he has the best interests of the nation and the American people as his prime concern and vote for him as a result all the better.
Biden is doing this because millions of Americans ... (show quote)


Biden is doing this, illegally by the way, to try to gin up votes from cry baby bullies who are threatening to not vote for him vote for him. obama is the one who made the government responsible to these loans. Everything demo touch turn to garbage and tax payers, not colleges or corporations, bail them out. I tired of hearing how your generation has it so much harder than any other generation, Quit your whines and start being responsible for your own success. You would feel a whole lot better about yourself. Life is hard, get over it.

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Mar 23, 2024 17:25:00   #
samtheyank
 
I would not call degrees worthless. I have two but never had any respect for earning them. When uneducated affirmative action types would get jobs over you, you started seeing that your education meant nothing. When you had bosses that could barely read and write, it was sad. I had this boss that thought she was a history scholar. I got her out of more than one scrape. She would go around saying that more Americans died in WWII than any other war. I got tired of her crap and told her she was nothing but an ignorant woman. I told her she was wrong and how stupid she was. The crap hit the fan and I was on the way out the door. Any person who knows anything about American history knows it was The American Civil War. She use go around saying that the Civil War was all about freeing the Slaves. When the war first started, Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union and put down the rebellion. The issue of slavery never entered into the equation until after the Battle of Antiteham. Frederick Douglas was very instrumental in pushing it in that direction. She didn’t even know who Frederick Douglas was at that time. I took personal pride in my knowledge of American History. She eventually was fired. I saw the mistake she was making and kept my mouth shut. Finally, truth came back and won the day. Sad, it had come to this.

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Mar 23, 2024 18:14:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
martsiva wrote:
Biden DEFIED the Supreme Court`s Constitutional ruling in this matter so YES he is trying to buy votes!! He defied them and the Constitution!! How much more obvious does it have to get??


He believes he is doing the right thing and he has no way of knowing who will vote for him .

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Mar 23, 2024 18:44:52   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
He believes he is doing the right thing and he has no way of knowing who will vote for him .



I find it very hard to believe that anyone who has a 50+ year career in politics and managed to get elected to POTUS doesn't know who is likely to vote for him! He may believe he is doing the right thing, but the evidence strongly indicates that he is very likely sadly mistaken suggesting he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

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Mar 23, 2024 19:18:29   #
Mogon
 
NotMAGA wrote:
And I have no doubt you and your ilk will always think I'm wrong, and facts be damned.


You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit your nose off!!

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Mar 23, 2024 19:31:38   #
WEBCO
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
What is building a wall and closing the borders and ditching NATO and the UN called if it is not buying votes ?


Good sound policy. All things that will help America and save untold billions, if not trillions, over the next 10 years.

How does paying off someone else's loan, and being responsible for THEIR bad decision, help America and save money?

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