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Aug 16, 2013 20:00:52   #
justkillingtime
 
Dave wrote:
Despite what you may have been told, Romney had never been in a position to establish the federal tax code.


To my knowledge nobody has ever said he ever was. But it is readily apparent to anyone with a brain that quite often Romney’s friends were.

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Aug 16, 2013 20:03:04   #
justkillingtime
 
theoldguy44 wrote:
The Democrats rely on a permanent underclass. You're station in life is dictated by the choices you make.


If you have babies out of wedlock, you are not the only person your choices affect. And contrary to libertarian dogma 18 straight years of poverty and degradation cannot always be overcome.

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Aug 16, 2013 20:08:03   #
justkillingtime
 
Dave wrote:
It has been my experience that those conditions occur when the government distorts the market - like allowing millions of unskilled workers to come in and destroy the low end of the labor market.


Actually I seldom see people from foreign countries working at Walmart. And illegals don’t limit themselves to unskilled, low-paying jobs. If they did there wouldn’t be so many of them on construction sites.

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As to accumulating wealth, most people don't because they spend money instead of saving it - otherwise the entertainment industries wouldn't grow and thrive like they have - just look at the gambling industry - hardly anyone in America doesn't have access to a casino within 30 miles - and they all seem to be doing well - certainly their clientale isn't restricted to the 1%.


And how many millions don’t patronize the entertainment industry or casinos and still cannot accumulate wealth because they prefer to eat, have a roof over their head, clothes on their back and medicine when they get sick?

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Aug 16, 2013 20:09:03   #
justkillingtime
 
JONDO wrote:
What Romney and the others pay wouldn't make that much difference if they would crack down on all the fraud that's going on.


You have documented data to back up this claim?

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Aug 16, 2013 20:17:57   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
justkillingtime wrote:
By collecting taxes the government can concentrate money and spend it on job-creating projects when that same money left in private hands may not ever be spent at all. Do some reading on the Civil Works Administration, Public Works Administration, Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps to see how this works. And the Reagan defense buildup of the 1980s worked the same way only with more greed and corruption and debt.


BULLSHIT!!!!!!

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Aug 16, 2013 20:36:18   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
[alex wrote:
since the govt. doesn't have any money of their own that means they have first to steal it from those that earn it

Alex, you are preaching to the choir.

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Aug 17, 2013 13:16:56   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
justkillingtime wrote:
By collecting taxes the government can concentrate money and spend it on job-creating projects when that same money left in private hands may not ever be spent at all. Do some reading on the Civil Works Administration, Public Works Administration, Works Progress Administration and Civilian Conservation Corps to see how this works. And the Reagan defense buildup of the 1980s worked the same way only with more greed and corruption and debt.


I'd suggest you might want to learn a bit about macro economics. Money is private hands has but two choices - one can spend it or invest it. In either case it creates economic opportunity. When the government spends it, it very often gets wasted on corruption like Solyndra like "investments" or Boston's Big Dig rip offs, or California's high speed rail between nowhere and nothing.

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Aug 17, 2013 13:19:10   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
justkillingtime wrote:
To my knowledge nobody has ever said he ever was. But it is readily apparent to anyone with a brain that quite often Romney’s friends were.


...and even less brain would realize Obama and his friends were in positions - and had a whole lot more friends than Romeny's in position to write tax codes. Check out the guy who owns the home Obama is staying in right now - earned his money exactly in the manner Romney did, and paid taxes in the exact same tax code.

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Aug 17, 2013 13:21:30   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
justkillingtime wrote:
And how many millions don’t patronize the entertainment industry or casinos and still cannot accumulate wealth because they prefer to eat, have a roof over their head, clothes on their back and medicine when they get sick?


So you believe illegal immigrants take the high skilled jobs leaving Americans to work in Walmart? Really?

With all those millions in such dire straits that they have only enough to feed themselves, where are all those millions at the casino coming from?

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Aug 17, 2013 13:37:42   #
bayman Loc: New Jersey
 
I'm not sure who said this, nor am I sure of the exact verbiage, so I'll admit to paraphrasing.

If you took all of the money in circulation and redistributed it equally to all persons it wouldn't be long before those that had nothing before redistribution would have nothing after redistribution and those that had plenty before redistribution would have the same plenty after redistribution. The net change would be zero.

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Aug 17, 2013 15:08:58   #
BrotherRaoul
 
Namaste, You and the folks that agree with you are hypocrites and lack any kind of integrity credibilty. You keep talking about how work does this and does that when America and other Caucasions raped, killed kidnapped and sold into slavery other human beings. You forced them to work for you for nothing and against their will under the threat of flogging or even death. You stole their names, you oblierated their religion and beat and hung those that resisted. You wrote in law that they were 3/5ths of a human being to disinfranchise and take away any semblence of human dignity and rights that were afforded the so called founding fathers. Now all of a sudden you want to make it seem like America isn't guilty of mass genocide to the Native Americans and people of color. And how welfare and intitlements are so unfair distructive to America with her record of abuse and theft. You should be ashamed! Check your history.
Peace,
BrotherRaoul 8-) 8-)

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Aug 17, 2013 15:12:57   #
blocklanes
 
Barack Obama Sr.
Atheist, Intellectual, Harvard.
Spoke Swahilli, English, Latin, Dholuo, and Russian.

Stanley Ann Durham
Anthropologist, Intellectual, Agnostic
Worked for the Ford Foundation in Indonesia
Spoke Indonesian, Russian, English, French, Latin, Hindu, and Urdu.

This is Obama's Mom and Dad. Do you still think Obama is stupid.

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Aug 17, 2013 15:21:53   #
BrotherRaoul
 
Hotep, America is already dead and weighed down with the sins of the people they enslaved, raped, robbed, killed and made to work for nothing for nearly 200 years Dead with memory of what America did the Native Americans. Over 300 treatys broken and not honored. Spiritually, what is the punishment for those unspeakable sins. Legally and morally, what are the consequences of such dasterdly behavior against you fellow human beings? Yeah,you are already dead!
Peace,
BrotherRaoul

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Aug 17, 2013 15:33:06   #
blocklanes
 
Well Said

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Aug 17, 2013 15:34:56   #
BrotherRaoul
 
Namaste, they know he is not stupid. That's the problem. He is too smart for them. He beat them twice and they still haven't gotten over it. He is not a Herman Cain nor Minister Louis Farakhan . He is a man of morals, ethics, integrity, compassion, empathy and insight as well as intelligence. God Bless him and keep him safe.
Peace,
BrotherRaoul

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