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Feb 26, 2024 12:01:35   #
Radiance3
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I was about 35 years old and Chairman of the School Board and member of the Church Board of one of the largest Lutheran churches in Michigan. In these positions, I found out the true nature of religions. The school shoved religion onto brainwashed children and failed to teach them much of known science when it conflicted with their religious teachings. And the only interest the church board ever had was raising money, especially enough to keep the diocese running. Yep. To hell with the poor. Yes, I have read the bible cover to cover more than once, and when I took a hard look at what it actually says, it supported my growing belief that religions were nothing but scams.

And over the last few years, it has become obvious that religions have become hate groups. I watched them in Kansas City in the 1990’s holding up signs that said "Kill the Gays." And signs held up by the same people that said “Join the Baptist Church….” Now, religions are into pushing for book banning, abuse of LGBTQ people, causing the deaths of more pregnant women because of their protracted fight to ban abortions nationwide, denial of basic human rights for gays, trans people, atheists, and same sex marriages. Last I heard, failure to be able to obtain an abortion is responsible for a 6 percent increase in deaths of pregnant women in states where abortion has been banned. And religious wars continue in Nigeria where Christians are killing Moslems and vice-versa. And the fact is that the Christian religion has been murdering or supporting the murder of over 12 million people over the last 2,000 years. Not just the crusades either. Christians used the charge of “blasphemy” to have their personal enemies killed, including burning at a stake. Then the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials. Then on to Africa and South America where they murdered native people who refused to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. And Martin Luther, a Christian who founded the Lutheran Church, encouraged Hitler to murder 6 million Jews. Nice guy. Really followed the supposed love they neighbor requirement of his bible.

In any case, certain members of this forum have become downright hateful, vicious, and profane in their comments to me because I have challenged their beliefs in Christianity. So, I decided to state my opinions and conclusions as an article so the haters can have one spot to curse me and will not have to go looking all over. Here goes.

There is exactly not one verifiable piece of evidence that anything in the Bible is true. Not one. There is exactly not one single piece of valid evidence that any gods have ever existed. Not just the Christian god. This includes any of the other 2,000+ gods invented by 4,000 religions of mankind throughout history. If we get rid of Christianity, undoubtedly, some other sect will pop up. There is exactly no provable reason to believe that any religion is anything but a scam created for the purpose of controlling others and taking their wealth. That is exactly what religions do. Some will actually help the poor now and then in an effort to demonstrate their belief in their book, but the end result is always recruit more members for their bankrolls. The real reason churches act benevolent is to attract more members to join the flock for fleecing. And they make a major effort to conduct both Sunday schools and secular schools for one purpose. That purpose is the brainwashing of children into believers for the rest of their lives in order to maintain and grow the flock over time for the purposes of controlling them and taking their money.

Christianity uses the carrot and stick approach to controlling others and fleecing them. The carrot is the false promise of heaven and the stick is the phony threat of hell. Interestingly enough, in order to keep that control going for as long as possible and covering virtually everyone in the church, you can sin all you want, and as long as you repent and believe in Jesus Christ before you die, you get to go to heaven anyway. Handy that little “get out of jail free” card, right? After all, all they really want is your money, and if they throw people out for not doing what they say, they would lose too much money. Longest running scam around.

Anyway, the good news is that year by year, more and more people are figuring out that religions are a scam. A study made a few years ago found that about 40 percent of Americans claimed they are not religious. Studies also found that the more educated and the more intelligent Americans are the ones who figured out that Christianity is a scam. Yes, a well backed, well deigned scam, but a scam, period. And yes, Christianity has seriously become a hate group. Comments on my comments elsewhere prove that. I have been vilified, cursed, called every name they can think of, and explicitly told that they hate gays, same sex marriage, trans people, and others not following their decrees. Yes, they propose eliminating the freedoms others have while they continue oppressing anyone they disagree with and are continuing to make major efforts to prohibit abortion nationwide. Not to mention the recent growth of Christian Nationalists, a strong reminder of Hitler’s minions. Then the religious nuts in Alabama went off the rails to declare Invitro fertilized frozen cells at fertilization clinics as babies and established legal penalties for the loss of a single cell. So, the clinics are shutting down due to the threat from this absurd law. Just more stupidity that demonstrates the validity of the claim that Christianity is all about control of others. Next, they will have adults and kids jailed for masturbation. And seriously, my claim of their fleecing of their flocks is further supported by the meme below about Joel Osteen, a TV preacher in Houston, Texas.
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I... (show quote)

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Nicholson, have you found an Atheist country where the people are happy and not enslaved?

Ignore about Joel Olsten. That is NOT really religion serving God. It is a multinational business enterprise using the WORDS of God as their MERCHANDISE selling to the people. Despite of that, there are many who buy and be part of it. Very good motivational speaker deceiving the people of God.

Where you can find the true religion are among the Jews, Protestants, Catholics, and other Christian denominations who truly serve God. These are the groups of people who find the world truly worth living.

The true religion is about Sacrifice and Humility, not Wealth. How did Jesus pay for our sins? He offered his life on the Cross and His blood poured out to wash away our sins.

This season of Lent is that time of reflection and prayer. Please think how Christ redeemed us.

You think without Christ, there is the United States of America? There could be, but another America, but not the way how the people live, and how the rulers could have enslaved them.

Notice those countries without God, how do they behave and live? Why do the people kept on running away from their countries, and come to the US whose God is Christ? For years, the US has been serving so many world countries in need, because it is a Christian country.

From what countries did the 12 million illegal invaders of Biden come from? From China, the Muslim countries, many from the Hispanic countries because their leaders are not Christians but corrupt.

Most Hispanic businesses are drug cartel distributions, of drugs from China, that poison our people. Please think about that. If they are truly Christians, are they going to hurt other people? Few are Christians, but they are helpless. The Godless are more powerful.

Long time ago, when the land of Canaan was burned by God. because the people who lived there, don't believe in God. They did all kinds of mayhem and immoralities how they lived among each other. Women were not respected. It was a survival of the fittest like animals in the jungle.
Being Christians, God asked us to love one another, as He loves us.
Please Atheist, don't be so comfortable ignoring Christ who died and suffered for us to save our souls. So, let's talk about true religion.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:08:37   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I was about 35 years old and Chairman of the School Board and member of the Church Board of one of the largest Lutheran churches in Michigan. In these positions, I found out the true nature of religions. The school shoved religion onto brainwashed children and failed to teach them much of known science when it conflicted with their religious teachings. And the only interest the church board ever had was raising money, especially enough to keep the diocese running. Yep. To hell with the poor. Yes, I have read the bible cover to cover more than once, and when I took a hard look at what it actually says, it supported my growing belief that religions were nothing but scams.

And over the last few years, it has become obvious that religions have become hate groups. I watched them in Kansas City in the 1990’s holding up signs that said "Kill the Gays." And signs held up by the same people that said “Join the Baptist Church….” Now, religions are into pushing for book banning, abuse of LGBTQ people, causing the deaths of more pregnant women because of their protracted fight to ban abortions nationwide, denial of basic human rights for gays, trans people, atheists, and same sex marriages. Last I heard, failure to be able to obtain an abortion is responsible for a 6 percent increase in deaths of pregnant women in states where abortion has been banned. And religious wars continue in Nigeria where Christians are killing Moslems and vice-versa. And the fact is that the Christian religion has been murdering or supporting the murder of over 12 million people over the last 2,000 years. Not just the crusades either. Christians used the charge of “blasphemy” to have their personal enemies killed, including burning at a stake. Then the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials. Then on to Africa and South America where they murdered native people who refused to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. And Martin Luther, a Christian who founded the Lutheran Church, encouraged Hitler to murder 6 million Jews. Nice guy. Really followed the supposed love they neighbor requirement of his bible.

In any case, certain members of this forum have become downright hateful, vicious, and profane in their comments to me because I have challenged their beliefs in Christianity. So, I decided to state my opinions and conclusions as an article so the haters can have one spot to curse me and will not have to go looking all over. Here goes.

There is exactly not one verifiable piece of evidence that anything in the Bible is true. Not one. There is exactly not one single piece of valid evidence that any gods have ever existed. Not just the Christian god. This includes any of the other 2,000+ gods invented by 4,000 religions of mankind throughout history. If we get rid of Christianity, undoubtedly, some other sect will pop up. There is exactly no provable reason to believe that any religion is anything but a scam created for the purpose of controlling others and taking their wealth. That is exactly what religions do. Some will actually help the poor now and then in an effort to demonstrate their belief in their book, but the end result is always recruit more members for their bankrolls. The real reason churches act benevolent is to attract more members to join the flock for fleecing. And they make a major effort to conduct both Sunday schools and secular schools for one purpose. That purpose is the brainwashing of children into believers for the rest of their lives in order to maintain and grow the flock over time for the purposes of controlling them and taking their money.

Christianity uses the carrot and stick approach to controlling others and fleecing them. The carrot is the false promise of heaven and the stick is the phony threat of hell. Interestingly enough, in order to keep that control going for as long as possible and covering virtually everyone in the church, you can sin all you want, and as long as you repent and believe in Jesus Christ before you die, you get to go to heaven anyway. Handy that little “get out of jail free” card, right? After all, all they really want is your money, and if they throw people out for not doing what they say, they would lose too much money. Longest running scam around.

Anyway, the good news is that year by year, more and more people are figuring out that religions are a scam. A study made a few years ago found that about 40 percent of Americans claimed they are not religious. Studies also found that the more educated and the more intelligent Americans are the ones who figured out that Christianity is a scam. Yes, a well backed, well deigned scam, but a scam, period. And yes, Christianity has seriously become a hate group. Comments on my comments elsewhere prove that. I have been vilified, cursed, called every name they can think of, and explicitly told that they hate gays, same sex marriage, trans people, and others not following their decrees. Yes, they propose eliminating the freedoms others have while they continue oppressing anyone they disagree with and are continuing to make major efforts to prohibit abortion nationwide. Not to mention the recent growth of Christian Nationalists, a strong reminder of Hitler’s minions. Then the religious nuts in Alabama went off the rails to declare Invitro fertilized frozen cells at fertilization clinics as babies and established legal penalties for the loss of a single cell. So, the clinics are shutting down due to the threat from this absurd law. Just more stupidity that demonstrates the validity of the claim that Christianity is all about control of others. Next, they will have adults and kids jailed for masturbation. And seriously, my claim of their fleecing of their flocks is further supported by the meme below about Joel Osteen, a TV preacher in Houston, Texas.
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I... (show quote)


Your choice. This is American and you have the freedom of the religion of your choice. Hope you pick right!

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Feb 26, 2024 12:12:32   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
proud republican wrote:
There was no fraud.. Banks stated that Trump paid everything back and they want to continue to do business with him..Crooked AG James ran on going after Trump.. That's all she's doing for New York.. Businesses are leaving New York in droves.. And as far as sexual abuse.... Anyone who says 'Most people think rape is sexy' is a sick idiot!! And anyone who believes her, is just as sick


And you believe one lie after another. Good thing E. Jean Carrol had a fair jury. And trump has committed fraud in multiple cases, some of which will lead to charges of tax evasion.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:13:19   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I was about 35 years old and Chairman of the School Board and member of the Church Board of one of the largest Lutheran churches in Michigan. In these positions, I found out the true nature of religions. The school shoved religion onto brainwashed children and failed to teach them much of known science when it conflicted with their religious teachings. And the only interest the church board ever had was raising money, especially enough to keep the diocese running. Yep. To hell with the poor. Yes, I have read the bible cover to cover more than once, and when I took a hard look at what it actually says, it supported my growing belief that religions were nothing but scams.

And over the last few years, it has become obvious that religions have become hate groups. I watched them in Kansas City in the 1990’s holding up signs that said "Kill the Gays." And signs held up by the same people that said “Join the Baptist Church….” Now, religions are into pushing for book banning, abuse of LGBTQ people, causing the deaths of more pregnant women because of their protracted fight to ban abortions nationwide, denial of basic human rights for gays, trans people, atheists, and same sex marriages. Last I heard, failure to be able to obtain an abortion is responsible for a 6 percent increase in deaths of pregnant women in states where abortion has been banned. And religious wars continue in Nigeria where Christians are killing Moslems and vice-versa. And the fact is that the Christian religion has been murdering or supporting the murder of over 12 million people over the last 2,000 years. Not just the crusades either. Christians used the charge of “blasphemy” to have their personal enemies killed, including burning at a stake. Then the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials. Then on to Africa and South America where they murdered native people who refused to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. And Martin Luther, a Christian who founded the Lutheran Church, encouraged Hitler to murder 6 million Jews. Nice guy. Really followed the supposed love they neighbor requirement of his bible.

In any case, certain members of this forum have become downright hateful, vicious, and profane in their comments to me because I have challenged their beliefs in Christianity. So, I decided to state my opinions and conclusions as an article so the haters can have one spot to curse me and will not have to go looking all over. Here goes.

There is exactly not one verifiable piece of evidence that anything in the Bible is true. Not one. There is exactly not one single piece of valid evidence that any gods have ever existed. Not just the Christian god. This includes any of the other 2,000+ gods invented by 4,000 religions of mankind throughout history. If we get rid of Christianity, undoubtedly, some other sect will pop up. There is exactly no provable reason to believe that any religion is anything but a scam created for the purpose of controlling others and taking their wealth. That is exactly what religions do. Some will actually help the poor now and then in an effort to demonstrate their belief in their book, but the end result is always recruit more members for their bankrolls. The real reason churches act benevolent is to attract more members to join the flock for fleecing. And they make a major effort to conduct both Sunday schools and secular schools for one purpose. That purpose is the brainwashing of children into believers for the rest of their lives in order to maintain and grow the flock over time for the purposes of controlling them and taking their money.

Christianity uses the carrot and stick approach to controlling others and fleecing them. The carrot is the false promise of heaven and the stick is the phony threat of hell. Interestingly enough, in order to keep that control going for as long as possible and covering virtually everyone in the church, you can sin all you want, and as long as you repent and believe in Jesus Christ before you die, you get to go to heaven anyway. Handy that little “get out of jail free” card, right? After all, all they really want is your money, and if they throw people out for not doing what they say, they would lose too much money. Longest running scam around.

Anyway, the good news is that year by year, more and more people are figuring out that religions are a scam. A study made a few years ago found that about 40 percent of Americans claimed they are not religious. Studies also found that the more educated and the more intelligent Americans are the ones who figured out that Christianity is a scam. Yes, a well backed, well deigned scam, but a scam, period. And yes, Christianity has seriously become a hate group. Comments on my comments elsewhere prove that. I have been vilified, cursed, called every name they can think of, and explicitly told that they hate gays, same sex marriage, trans people, and others not following their decrees. Yes, they propose eliminating the freedoms others have while they continue oppressing anyone they disagree with and are continuing to make major efforts to prohibit abortion nationwide. Not to mention the recent growth of Christian Nationalists, a strong reminder of Hitler’s minions. Then the religious nuts in Alabama went off the rails to declare Invitro fertilized frozen cells at fertilization clinics as babies and established legal penalties for the loss of a single cell. So, the clinics are shutting down due to the threat from this absurd law. Just more stupidity that demonstrates the validity of the claim that Christianity is all about control of others. Next, they will have adults and kids jailed for masturbation. And seriously, my claim of their fleecing of their flocks is further supported by the meme below about Joel Osteen, a TV preacher in Houston, Texas.
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I... (show quote)


Osten is but another entrepreneural televangelist. Much like the Clinton Foundation...money makers....

Then there are the Grahams and Mother Teresa and many more.....

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Feb 26, 2024 12:14:19   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And you believe one lie after another. Good thing E. Jean Carrol had a fair jury. And trump has committed fraud in multiple cases, some of which will lead to charges of tax evasion.


E Jean Carroll IS a fraud!!..

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Feb 26, 2024 12:16:08   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Jim0001 wrote:
Your choice. This is American and you have the freedom of the religion of your choice. Hope you pick right!

The right choice depends on what country you are born in.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2kNfeQxTYF/?igsh=MzlqbTB4cWF6Yzcx

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Feb 26, 2024 12:19:19   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The right choice depends on what country you are born in.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2kNfeQxTYF/?igsh=MzlqbTB4cWF6Yzcx


It sure as "F" wouldn't be canada!

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Feb 26, 2024 12:25:46   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Jim0001 wrote:
It sure as "F" wouldn't be canada!

The right choice in Canada is the same as it is in the USA.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:40:12   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Blah blah blah blah blah


Yes, he is. But so are you and trump is a criminal.

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Feb 26, 2024 13:00:42   #
BigJim
 
I left Christianity for agnosticism over 60years ago. I still feel the principles of the more liberal Christian churches lead to a pleasant stable society. I find Islam to be far worse than Christianity and see no reason to be tolerant of an Islamic invasion. I don't see Christians murdering non Christians and being proud of it like Muslims do. I will take a corrupt Joel Osteen any day to an Imam who calls for the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews.

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Feb 26, 2024 13:03:09   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I was about 35 years old and Chairman of the School Board and member of the Church Board of one of the largest Lutheran churches in Michigan. In these positions, I found out the true nature of religions. The school shoved religion onto brainwashed children and failed to teach them much of known science when it conflicted with their religious teachings. And the only interest the church board ever had was raising money, especially enough to keep the diocese running. Yep. To hell with the poor. Yes, I have read the bible cover to cover more than once, and when I took a hard look at what it actually says, it supported my growing belief that religions were nothing but scams.

And over the last few years, it has become obvious that religions have become hate groups. I watched them in Kansas City in the 1990’s holding up signs that said "Kill the Gays." And signs held up by the same people that said “Join the Baptist Church….” Now, religions are into pushing for book banning, abuse of LGBTQ people, causing the deaths of more pregnant women because of their protracted fight to ban abortions nationwide, denial of basic human rights for gays, trans people, atheists, and same sex marriages. Last I heard, failure to be able to obtain an abortion is responsible for a 6 percent increase in deaths of pregnant women in states where abortion has been banned. And religious wars continue in Nigeria where Christians are killing Moslems and vice-versa. And the fact is that the Christian religion has been murdering or supporting the murder of over 12 million people over the last 2,000 years. Not just the crusades either. Christians used the charge of “blasphemy” to have their personal enemies killed, including burning at a stake. Then the Spanish Inquisition and the Salem witch trials. Then on to Africa and South America where they murdered native people who refused to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior. And Martin Luther, a Christian who founded the Lutheran Church, encouraged Hitler to murder 6 million Jews. Nice guy. Really followed the supposed love they neighbor requirement of his bible.

In any case, certain members of this forum have become downright hateful, vicious, and profane in their comments to me because I have challenged their beliefs in Christianity. So, I decided to state my opinions and conclusions as an article so the haters can have one spot to curse me and will not have to go looking all over. Here goes.

There is exactly not one verifiable piece of evidence that anything in the Bible is true. Not one. There is exactly not one single piece of valid evidence that any gods have ever existed. Not just the Christian god. This includes any of the other 2,000+ gods invented by 4,000 religions of mankind throughout history. If we get rid of Christianity, undoubtedly, some other sect will pop up. There is exactly no provable reason to believe that any religion is anything but a scam created for the purpose of controlling others and taking their wealth. That is exactly what religions do. Some will actually help the poor now and then in an effort to demonstrate their belief in their book, but the end result is always recruit more members for their bankrolls. The real reason churches act benevolent is to attract more members to join the flock for fleecing. And they make a major effort to conduct both Sunday schools and secular schools for one purpose. That purpose is the brainwashing of children into believers for the rest of their lives in order to maintain and grow the flock over time for the purposes of controlling them and taking their money.

Christianity uses the carrot and stick approach to controlling others and fleecing them. The carrot is the false promise of heaven and the stick is the phony threat of hell. Interestingly enough, in order to keep that control going for as long as possible and covering virtually everyone in the church, you can sin all you want, and as long as you repent and believe in Jesus Christ before you die, you get to go to heaven anyway. Handy that little “get out of jail free” card, right? After all, all they really want is your money, and if they throw people out for not doing what they say, they would lose too much money. Longest running scam around.

Anyway, the good news is that year by year, more and more people are figuring out that religions are a scam. A study made a few years ago found that about 40 percent of Americans claimed they are not religious. Studies also found that the more educated and the more intelligent Americans are the ones who figured out that Christianity is a scam. Yes, a well backed, well deigned scam, but a scam, period. And yes, Christianity has seriously become a hate group. Comments on my comments elsewhere prove that. I have been vilified, cursed, called every name they can think of, and explicitly told that they hate gays, same sex marriage, trans people, and others not following their decrees. Yes, they propose eliminating the freedoms others have while they continue oppressing anyone they disagree with and are continuing to make major efforts to prohibit abortion nationwide. Not to mention the recent growth of Christian Nationalists, a strong reminder of Hitler’s minions. Then the religious nuts in Alabama went off the rails to declare Invitro fertilized frozen cells at fertilization clinics as babies and established legal penalties for the loss of a single cell. So, the clinics are shutting down due to the threat from this absurd law. Just more stupidity that demonstrates the validity of the claim that Christianity is all about control of others. Next, they will have adults and kids jailed for masturbation. And seriously, my claim of their fleecing of their flocks is further supported by the meme below about Joel Osteen, a TV preacher in Houston, Texas.
I was awakened to the truth about religions when I... (show quote)


You missed the point! So sad for you! Jesus died for our sins , he didn’t come to agree with you or compromise!! Joel o stern is not a real Paster he is a scammer!

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Feb 26, 2024 13:05:10   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Yes, he is. But so are you and trump is a criminal.


Biden is the criminal! You are the product of end times philosophy! Bad is good and vise versa! The Bible warms about you folks!

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Feb 26, 2024 13:10:09   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
proud republican wrote:
If you never watch Fox, you have nothing to say about it!


That has to be the single most stupid thing I have seen posted in the last month! One does not have to stupidly watch a continuous barrage of lies to know they are lying. Little things like their lost defamation lawsuit from Dominion should be enough by itself, but when you add in the year long study of their lies by the highly respected PEW Research group which says that 96 percent of all political articles on Fox news are either outright lies, half truths, some truth, or spin, you would never watch it unless you are wanting to continue believing lies. That appears to me to be a desire to remain stupid. Same logic applies to CNN and MSNBC which only scored slightly better than Fox.



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Feb 26, 2024 13:14:20   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
That has to be the single most stupid thing I have seen posted in the last month! One does not have to stupidly watch a continuous barrage of lies to know they are lying. Little things like their lost defamation lawsuit from Dominion should be enough by itself, but when you add in the year long study of their lies by the highly respected PEW Research group which says that 96 percent of all political articles on Fox news are either outright lies, half truths, some truth, or spin, you would never watch it unless you are wanting to continue believing lies. That appears to me to be a desire to remain stupid. Same logic applies to CNN and MSNBC which only scored slightly better than Fox.
That has to be the single most stupid thing I have... (show quote)


Fox News beats both CNN,MSNBC and you by far!

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Feb 26, 2024 13:23:45   #
martsiva
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Speaks a trump sycophant. Are you trying to lie as often as trump? And sorry, but I challenge you to disprove anything I posted. You made the claim That all I do is lie. I challenge you to prove that.


So you think Josephus who witnessed things spoken in the Bible was a liar?? So you think all the archeological finds in Israel that prove things written in the Bible are true are just all lies?? So you think Jesus was lying when he said Jerusalem would fall was a lie?? These things alone prove you lie!!

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