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Feb 18, 2024 14:48:10   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Arguing who holds the best fiction ?
Religion , after all is said and done
is basically Fiction !
It’s Fiction , not a lie , only fiction .
You can believe it or not .
Its Fiction !
Evil , the worst you can imagine is fiction . Imagine being the key fiction word here .
Like the tooth fairy !
If you get a dollar under your pillow , it’s real !
But , it’s still fiction !
You can believe or not , you’re a dollar ahead .


I realize the reason you hate Christianity is the fact it requires one to confess and repent and accept God's plan for salvation thru Jesus death and blood shed on the cross and required to follow Him thru out one's life .

When you die you will see that your god Buddha and you will be spending all of eternity together with Satan .

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Feb 18, 2024 15:12:11   #
Radar OReilly
 
Rose42 wrote:
You know something I never see? I never see the average person say that Buddha was made up from stories of ancient pagan gods. Or that Gandhi was actually a Jewish mystic who was misunderstood. Or that Mohammad was an atheist. There’s usually only one historical figure that is distorted more than any other to fit whatever modern agenda they need at the moment: Jesus Christ.

You can get the identity of Buddha, Gandhi, Mohammad, and even other historical figures such as Alexander the Great or Abraham Lincoln wrong, and it does not have any bearing on what that means to you spiritually. In a manner of speaking, who they are is meaningless in this regard. But people would correct you in a hot second if you made a false claim about who they are historically. This is because it’s verifiable to see who these people were, what they did, and what they stood for.

So why do people not hold this same standard to Jesus, the one Person who can affect their spiritual standing before God? I believe there are a few reasons.

1. People Don’t Want Jesus to Be What the Bible Says.

If Jesus is who He says He is, and the Bible is true, then this has consequences. Does it really matter if Buddha wasn’t who He claimed to be? Not really. People might feel a little jaded, but they would believe that their spirituality wouldn’t be in limbo. However, Christianity is different. Jesus’s claim to divinity and the exclusive way to be saved has consequences for humanity. And, quite simply, humans love to run after other gods. They have to turn away from idols and self-worship to turn to the One True God who has the power to save. But that means giving up certain aspects of their lifestyle that are sinful they have grown accustomed to. It brings them death and destruction and they are blinded by it. Jesus says in John 3:19-20 that “Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of the light because their deeds are evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.”

So people make another Jesus that likes what they like, believes what they believe, and approves of what they do.

2. Spiritual Warfare

I don’t find it to be any coincidence at all that it’s specifically Jesus who has all the attention when it comes to the variety of identities. Satan doesn’t care if you say you believe in God. Even he believes that. He doesn’t even care if you believe in Jesus. As long as it’s a false Jesus, one that has no power to save you. This is one of the oldest rules in the devil’s playbook: distort Jesus. His energy goes into fighting truth, not lies. Jesus says Satan is the Father of Lies and that it would be foolish for Satan to cast himself out because then his kingdom wouldn’t stand. He perpetuates the lies and does what he can to distort the truth.

Who cares about the other spiritual figures because they aren’t really his target. If anything, they’re his allies.

3. People See Truth as Hate

We live in an odd time. People don’t want truth. They want affirmation. This is true even outside of religious circles but also exists in casual friendships, families, and work acquaintances. I’m sure people have witnessed other people’s complete lack of humility and perhaps even a complete disconnect from reality, all in the name of “their truth.” They want their voice to be heard. And they make it heard by shutting everyone else up. It’s a grand level of entitlement that is sweeping our nation with a vengeance. So, when you speak up about Jesus and who He really is, as described in the Bible, if it hurts them emotionally or is seen as unloving, then they discard it because it’s hateful. Our culture has a strong view of truth: if it’s not loving, then it’s not true. This is how the average postmodern New Ager sees truth, too, by the way.

So, their guard goes up if they perceive anything that you’re saying as hurtful to them. Ironically, what informs this way of thinking usually comes from a place of hurt. But instead of looking at it as an obstacle to overcome and grow from, people now expect others to cater to their emotional needs with no expectation of themselves to take any responsibility to grow.

False Christ, False Gospel

Ultimately, when people deny truth and who Jesus is, they are embracing a false version of Him who isn’t going to save anybody. They might have some comfort in their denial, but it’s only a comfort that leads to destruction. Stop running from Jesus. Run to Him. Go to the Scriptures and read about who Jesus is. Let the Holy Spirit guide and convict you and lead you to the Living Waters, the Bread of Life, who will give you what you’ve been yearning for.

https://crossexamined.org/why-people-love-a-false-jesus/
You know something I never see? I never see the av... (show quote)


A Very informative post MsRose Thankyou for posting.

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Feb 18, 2024 15:14:54   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its interesting you react this way only when Jesus is mentioned.


"why does anyone.....even care what Milosia, has to say?.....

why does one listen to a fool? [ because they cannot count flowers on the wall?]

or, is it because a Bull frog's skin , is waterproof? [ Quote Redd Foxx]

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Feb 18, 2024 15:52:41   #
Rose42
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
"why does anyone.....even care what Milosia, has to say?.....

why does one listen to a fool? [ because they cannot count flowers on the wall?]

or, is it because a Bull frog's skin , is waterproof? [ Quote Redd Foxx]


She is one of God’s children and her life has worth. Its never too late to be saved until your last breath

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Feb 18, 2024 16:10:56   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Rose42 wrote:
She is one of God’s children and her life has worth. Its never too late to be saved until your last breath


So say you? Feel that way about Adolph Hitler?

One must "think, & post worthwhile things, of pertinent Socially acceptable thinking, to "have worth"!

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Feb 18, 2024 16:30:19   #
Rose42
 
Ronald Hatt wrote:
So say you? Feel that way about Adolph Hitler?

One must "think, & post worthwhile things, of pertinent Socially acceptable thinking, to "have worth"!


You think Jesus made a mistake choosing Paul? When he was Saul he was a murderer and persecuted Jews.

Did David not have worth? He was an adulterer. Rahab was a prostitute. Moses was a murderer. God used them all

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Feb 18, 2024 16:52:48   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Buddhist !
Is the absolute One True Religion .
It is based on truth , it is carried by truth , and is an everlasting truth !
Entirely understandable why you believe that. Buddhism has no god.

There is no divine creator god or supreme being in the Buddhist teachings, so that Buddhism is often called a nontheistic religion. The historical Buddha began as an ordinary person, who gained awakening by training his own mind and apprehending the true nature of reality. His enlightenment wasn’t bestowed through communion with a superior, external force but through his own efforts. And that’s a major point of the Buddhist story. From the Buddhist point of view, a personal god isn’t necessary: we each have the raw material to achieve our own liberation.

Why have you failed so miserably to liberate yourself?
You have some work to do, I suggest you get to it.

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Feb 18, 2024 17:15:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Rose42 wrote:
She is one of God’s children and her life has worth. Its never too late to be saved until your last breath
Ronald Hatt wrote:
So say you? Feel that way about Adolph Hitler?

One must "think, & post worthwhile things, of pertinent Socially acceptable thinking, to "have worth"!
God offered every human who ever lived, including Adolph, the opportunity to redeem themselves.
As it is written, the wages of sin is DEATH, and, since humans are imperfect and of finite mind,
it is incumbent on us to accept God's invitation to shuck the yoke of sin and save our souls from death.
Obviously, many humans, including Adolph, had other ideas and ended up dead.

The notion that the value of a human life is determined by what is "socially acceptable" is foolish.

"By your own choice,
your life is either profane or sacred."
Ravi Zacharias

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Feb 19, 2024 05:51:19   #
Big Kahuna
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Buddhist !
Is the absolute One True Religion .
It is based on truth , it is carried by truth , and is an everlasting truth !


Oh really? Give us some historical facts. What about archeological evidence? Did Buddha die for your sins and was resurrected? Was Buddha the perfect God/Man? Did buddha exist from all eternity past?

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Feb 19, 2024 05:56:57   #
Big Kahuna
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Arguing who holds the best fiction ?
Religion , after all is said and done
is basically Fiction !
It’s Fiction , not a lie , only fiction .
You can believe it or not .
Its Fiction !
Evil , the worst you can imagine is fiction . Imagine being the key fiction word here .
Like the tooth fairy !
If you get a dollar under your pillow , it’s real !
But , it’s still fiction !
You can believe or not , you’re a dollar ahead .


So evil is fiction? We see it all around us and the havoc it produces but yet it's fiction? Tell that to a grieving parent who's child was murdered by a felon. Evil seems to be increasing in our society as people declare themselves less religious or irreligious.

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Feb 19, 2024 06:01:40   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Oh really? Give us some historical facts. What about archeological evidence? Did Buddha die for your sins and was resurrected? Was Buddha the perfect God/Man? Did buddha exist from all eternity past?


"Big kahuna:" many "atheists, at this venue, continually try to bait, those of us, that are true born-again Christians!

why do they do that?....[ "They desperately want to be convinced"]...that Christianity is the one true religion!

Perhaps it is "on us", to persuade them? Give them that "Old time religion"...hell fire & Brimstone?

That's what they dream about, but simply cannot yet understand...

[ Their hunger, cannot be satisfied, except for us "Chosen ones", that must take up that cross!]

Jesus, made that supreme Sacrifice...Perhaps, "we", could take that one last step to save them?

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Feb 19, 2024 06:06:48   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
So evil is fiction? We see it all around us and the havoc it produces but yet it's fiction? Tell that to a grieving parent who's child was murdered by a felon. Evil seems to be increasing in our society as people declare themselves less religious or irreligious.


*Evil? Naw....That's just the "*Unconstitutionality...of the reining, vile, 'Anti-Christ Demo'rats, banging at our door

incessantly, & never-ending "Trials & tribulations" of Christians, that must do everything in our power to try

to save our Brothers & sisters..*Embrace it, my Brothers in Christ...*We CAN do this!

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Feb 19, 2024 06:18:39   #
PZG1225 Loc: Florida
 
Rose42 wrote:
You know something I never see? I never see the average person say that Buddha was made up from stories of ancient pagan gods. Or that Gandhi was actually a Jewish mystic who was misunderstood. Or that Mohammad was an atheist. There’s usually only one historical figure that is distorted more than any other to fit whatever modern agenda they need at the moment: Jesus Christ.

You can get the identity of Buddha, Gandhi, Mohammad, and even other historical figures such as Alexander the Great or Abraham Lincoln wrong, and it does not have any bearing on what that means to you spiritually. In a manner of speaking, who they are is meaningless in this regard. But people would correct you in a hot second if you made a false claim about who they are historically. This is because it’s verifiable to see who these people were, what they did, and what they stood for.

So why do people not hold this same standard to Jesus, the one Person who can affect their spiritual standing before God? I believe there are a few reasons.

1. People Don’t Want Jesus to Be What the Bible Says.

If Jesus is who He says He is, and the Bible is true, then this has consequences. Does it really matter if Buddha wasn’t who He claimed to be? Not really. People might feel a little jaded, but they would believe that their spirituality wouldn’t be in limbo. However, Christianity is different. Jesus’s claim to divinity and the exclusive way to be saved has consequences for humanity. And, quite simply, humans love to run after other gods. They have to turn away from idols and self-worship to turn to the One True God who has the power to save. But that means giving up certain aspects of their lifestyle that are sinful they have grown accustomed to. It brings them death and destruction and they are blinded by it. Jesus says in John 3:19-20 that “Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of the light because their deeds are evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.”

So people make another Jesus that likes what they like, believes what they believe, and approves of what they do.

2. Spiritual Warfare

I don’t find it to be any coincidence at all that it’s specifically Jesus who has all the attention when it comes to the variety of identities. Satan doesn’t care if you say you believe in God. Even he believes that. He doesn’t even care if you believe in Jesus. As long as it’s a false Jesus, one that has no power to save you. This is one of the oldest rules in the devil’s playbook: distort Jesus. His energy goes into fighting truth, not lies. Jesus says Satan is the Father of Lies and that it would be foolish for Satan to cast himself out because then his kingdom wouldn’t stand. He perpetuates the lies and does what he can to distort the truth.

Who cares about the other spiritual figures because they aren’t really his target. If anything, they’re his allies.

3. People See Truth as Hate

We live in an odd time. People don’t want truth. They want affirmation. This is true even outside of religious circles but also exists in casual friendships, families, and work acquaintances. I’m sure people have witnessed other people’s complete lack of humility and perhaps even a complete disconnect from reality, all in the name of “their truth.” They want their voice to be heard. And they make it heard by shutting everyone else up. It’s a grand level of entitlement that is sweeping our nation with a vengeance. So, when you speak up about Jesus and who He really is, as described in the Bible, if it hurts them emotionally or is seen as unloving, then they discard it because it’s hateful. Our culture has a strong view of truth: if it’s not loving, then it’s not true. This is how the average postmodern New Ager sees truth, too, by the way.

So, their guard goes up if they perceive anything that you’re saying as hurtful to them. Ironically, what informs this way of thinking usually comes from a place of hurt. But instead of looking at it as an obstacle to overcome and grow from, people now expect others to cater to their emotional needs with no expectation of themselves to take any responsibility to grow.

False Christ, False Gospel

Ultimately, when people deny truth and who Jesus is, they are embracing a false version of Him who isn’t going to save anybody. They might have some comfort in their denial, but it’s only a comfort that leads to destruction. Stop running from Jesus. Run to Him. Go to the Scriptures and read about who Jesus is. Let the Holy Spirit guide and convict you and lead you to the Living Waters, the Bread of Life, who will give you what you’ve been yearning for.

https://crossexamined.org/why-people-love-a-false-jesus/
You know something I never see? I never see the av... (show quote)


I loved this Rose! Thank you for posting! So good to see we have some believers on OPP.

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Feb 19, 2024 06:47:38   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
PZG1225 wrote:
I loved this Rose! Thank you for posting! So good to see we have some believers on OPP.


Rose 42...it appears that "someone"...[ :O}} ], sent you to minister to those that do not believe!

If, these *non-believers read your post*...[ A Most Excellent one}...Then how could they not "at least", question themselves, & give due consideration to your message?

Jesus, "DOES" send messengers...[ I had just such a messenger, in Denver Colorado, circa 1972...] Life changing, & I carry that experience with me 24/7/365...I'll never, ever forget it!

Thanks for reminding me, that there are "some out there", that really care, & will take time to deliver this life /Eternity saving message...Hopefully to "ears", & open minds, that are eager for that message!

You, may have been responsible for saving "many"!

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Feb 19, 2024 08:43:22   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
So evil is fiction? We see it all around us and the havoc it produces but yet it's fiction? Tell that to a grieving parent who's child was murdered by a felon. Evil seems to be increasing in our society as people declare themselves less religious or irreligious.


As predicted throughout the Bible.

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