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Aug 7, 2014 03:08:23   #
rebecwi333 Loc: Louisiana
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Who are WE to question anybody? We have killed 10,000's of civilians, even in countries we are not at war in. We are NOT morally superior to anybody and guilt should keep our mouths shut on every issue. My advice is not to speak about things you have absolutely NO KNOWLEDGE OF!


AMEN

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Aug 7, 2014 07:02:05   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Hamas posing for a portrait...



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Aug 7, 2014 08:24:06   #
Snoopy
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
I would drop back on them.
I can see that you have a limited memory on the effects of innocents being bombed in a fight that they themselves did not start.
Israel, and my point is directed to the statement that Netanyahu made warning the Obama administration "that the US is never to question him again". Is that it always seems as though anyone who challenges any policies from their leadership is seen as anti-Jewish, when of course, Israel is supposed to be a political state, and not a religious haven. No?
I abhor the actions Hamas, and I am not saying anything to dismiss the need from actions to protect a country.
Israel has GPS guided artillery, which is accurate to a fault
Accidents are rare, I know this first hand.

We did respond to an attack against us: we're still engaged in that war, and we have not gained a seeming objective as of yet, even thought we are slated to withdraw later this year. "Look up; April, 1975 Saigon.
Again, attacks, instead of dialogue.

If Reagan had been president and told Netanyahu where to get the hell off; you would be applauding him for being a "real" American.
I would drop back on them. br I can see that you ... (show quote)



Zero

You never answered my question: what would you do if someone was dropping missiles in your back yard every day?

Have you also noted that hamas has set up civilians by using their area to launch said missiles. They will not let them evacuate.

How about hamas using money for tunnels instead of building infrastructure?

Snoopy

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Aug 7, 2014 09:42:42   #
stevenkalka
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
I do not agree with their assessment that they were "just" defending their country when they obviously purposely bombed a school.

Obama should have come back on Netanyahu when he (Netanyahu) said that: Netanyahu told Shapiro the Obama administration was "not to ever second-guess me again"

What?! Who in cap'n crunch does this guy think that he is?!

Obama passed up a golden opportunity here. He should have told "Nets" to "get over yourself!" or some such.

Just a brief overview of some of the numbers, which should make "Nets" shut his mouth sometime:

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact

Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240
Special Reports:

Well, Mr. Netanyahu?
Here's an American who DOES question you. How many civilians does it take, for you to admit to your egregious activities? :| Well? We're waiting.
I do not agree with their assessment that they wer... (show quote)


http://www.jewishpress.com/news/breaking-news/hamas-may-have-fired-rockets-that-hit-unrwa-school-killing-17/2014/07/24/

If you're talking about the UNRWA school, evidence points to HAMAS misfired rockets that so many blamed on Israel, including our President.

You've omitted what prompted Bibi to say that. Kerry assured Israel that Hamas was serious about a ceasefire when they weren't. It cost the lives of several IDF soldiers as they were unprepared.

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Aug 7, 2014 09:47:28   #
Blacksheep
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
I do not agree with their assessment that they were "just" defending their country when they obviously purposely bombed a school.

Obama should have come back on Netanyahu when he (Netanyahu) said that: Netanyahu told Shapiro the Obama administration was "not to ever second-guess me again"

What?! Who in cap'n crunch does this guy think that he is?!

Obama passed up a golden opportunity here. He should have told "Nets" to "get over yourself!" or some such.

Just a brief overview of some of the numbers, which should make "Nets" shut his mouth sometime:
Well, Mr. Netanyahu?
Here's an American who DOES question you. How many civilians does it take, for you to admit to your egregious activities? :| Well? We're waiting.
I do not agree with their assessment that they wer... (show quote)


Here we go again with another Jew hater who wants to twist the truth to suit his own prejudice.
The Israelis DID NOT purposely bomb a school. The target they hit was near a school and the school was hit by part of the blast.

This is WAR. In WAR, everyone suffers, civilians are slaughtered left and right, and the bombs fall where they may without regard to how many innocents might be killed. ONLY THE ISRAELIS out of all nations make a serious humanitarian effort to prevent civilian casualties. ONLY THEM. We don't do it. We killed civilians by the tens of thousands in Iraq.

Take your bullshit terrorist-loving propaganda down the road. In fact, why don't you go take a nice long vacation in the Gaza Strip, since you like Hamas so much, hmm? :roll:

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Aug 7, 2014 13:21:24   #
Viet Nam Vet 67-68
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
I do not agree with their assessment that they were "just" defending their country when they obviously purposely bombed a school.

Obama should have come back on Netanyahu when he (Netanyahu) said that: Netanyahu told Shapiro the Obama administration was "not to ever second-guess me again"

What?! Who in cap'n crunch does this guy think that he is?!

Obama passed up a golden opportunity here. He should have told "Nets" to "get over yourself!" or some such.

Just a brief overview of some of the numbers, which should make "Nets" shut his mouth sometime:

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact

Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Interest Costs Borne by U.S.
$49,936,680,000

Total Cost to U.S. Taxpayers
$134,791,507,200

Total Taxpayer Cost per Israeli
$23,240
Special Reports:

Well, Mr. Netanyahu?
Here's an American who DOES question you. How many civilians does it take, for you to admit to your egregious activities? :| Well? We're waiting.
I do not agree with their assessment that they wer... (show quote)


Get off your prayer rug and your head out of your emam's ass Obamination and realize that your coward Muslims are hiding behind Women and Children and IF I WERE THERE I WOULD JUST THINK AFTER BEING BRAIN WASHED BY YOU PEOPLE THOSE SO CALLED INNOCENT WOMEN AND CHILDREN WOULD BECOME JUST LIKE YOU AND WHAT THE HELL MAY AS WELL KILL THEM NOW THAN LATER.

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Aug 7, 2014 14:41:53   #
tom1942
 
Tom1942 wrote:

I for one disagree with the prime minster on cease fires. Hamas and their ilk have proven time and time again that there is true evil and it exists. Forget about culture. There is none in the Muslim world; that's why non-secular Muslims like blowing up their past; it reminds them of a civilization they can never achieve. What I cannot understand is Bebe's sudden enthusiasm for the Palestinians. I guess comparing the two, the Palestinians are slightly better. I still however have not forgotten the Palestinian betrayal of Kuwait when Iraq invaded back in 91.
Nor have the Kuwaitis forgotten how the Palestinians betrayed them; Palestinians invited by Kuwait to work and earn money to send back home to their families in Gaza and the West bank. This reminds me that whenever I reach a point in the conversation when I start using the word "moderate" in front of Muslims I need to caution myself that no such Muslim exists---at least none willing to condemn the barbarity of their brethren upon risk of being branded "apostates"---which carries a death sentence. If people today truly understood the threat confronting the world today, the combined nations of the world would mobilize an army the likes never before seen to eradicate this pestilence. Then again, I probably live in a dream world---or nightmare.

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Aug 7, 2014 15:00:12   #
stevenkalka
 
tom1942 wrote:
Tom1942 wrote:

I for one disagree with the prime minster on cease fires. Hamas and their ilk have proven time and time again that there is true evil and it exists. Forget about culture. There is none in the Muslim world; that's why non-secular Muslims like blowing up their past; it reminds them of a civilization they can never achieve. What I cannot understand is Bebe's sudden enthusiasm for the Palestinians. I guess comparing the two, the Palestinians are slightly better. I still however have not forgotten the Palestinian betrayal of Kuwait when Iraq invaded back in 91.
Nor have the Kuwaitis forgotten how the Palestinians betrayed them; Palestinians invited by Kuwait to work and earn money to send back home to their families in Gaza and the West bank. This reminds me that whenever I reach a point in the conversation when I start using the word "moderate" in front of Muslims I need to caution myself that no such Muslim exists---at least none willing to condemn the barbarity of their brethren upon risk of being branded "apostates"---which carries a death sentence. If people today truly understood the threat confronting the world today, the combined nations of the world would mobilize an army the likes never before seen to eradicate this pestilence. Then again, I probably live in a dream world---or nightmare.
Tom1942 wrote: br br I for one disagree with the ... (show quote)


I agree with you on the threat posed by Hamas and the Palestinians, but I don't see how Bibi has become a Palestinian enthusiast. The IDF is ready and waiting should Hamas resume its attacks at the end of the 72 hour ceasefire tomorrow morning. Agreeing to talk is hardly a change of heart.

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Aug 7, 2014 17:45:43   #
tom1942
 
There should be no truces, cease fires, or treaties. I have lived through and witnessed many such attempts at peace only to be broken by Hamas or whomever. Bibi is right. What happens in Israel, will happen here. I don't want to tell the liberals and airheads "I told you so" while they proceed to cut off my head. The timr to fight is now. We can argue about it later. I'd love to nominate Netanyahu for president. He'd make a good one.

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Aug 7, 2014 19:05:11   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
I would gladly replace Obama with Netanyahu in a New York minute, if possible.

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Aug 7, 2014 22:43:54   #
emarine
 
Hamas has always been the aggressor.... Israel has always reacted in self defense... Anyone having a problem with Israel at this point is anti-Semitic... If you don't like Jew's that's a personal problem... Who gives a rats ass about your personal problems, go sell your crap somewhere else :thumbdown:

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Aug 8, 2014 12:30:33   #
Gunny89 Loc: Southport, NC
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
I would drop back on them.
I can see that you have a limited memory on the effects of innocents being bombed in a fight that they themselves did not start.
Israel, and my point is directed to the statement that Netanyahu made warning the Obama administration "that the US is never to question him again". Is that it always seems as though anyone who challenges any policies from their leadership is seen as anti-Jewish, when of course, Israel is supposed to be a political state, and not a religious haven. No?
I abhor the actions Hamas, and I am not saying anything to dismiss the need from actions to protect a country.
Israel has GPS guided artillery, which is accurate to a fault
Accidents are rare, I know this first hand.

We did respond to an attack against us: we're still engaged in that war, and we have not gained a seeming objective as of yet, even thought we are slated to withdraw later this year. "Look up; April, 1975 Saigon.
Again, attacks, instead of dialogue.

If Reagan had been president and told Netanyahu where to get the hell off; you would be applauding him for being a "real" American.
I would drop back on them. br I can see that you ... (show quote)


Reagan would have Backed Netanyahu. Remember that Israel is the only democratic state in that region. The Hamas wants to wipe all Jews off the map. And kill as many Americans as they can. So I would tell Netanyahu.. "Go for it"

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Aug 8, 2014 16:25:41   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
tom1942 wrote:
There should be no truces, cease fires, or treaties. I have lived through and witnessed many such attempts at peace only to be broken by Hamas or whomever. Bibi is right. What happens in Israel, will happen here. I don't want to tell the liberals and airheads "I told you so" while they proceed to cut off my head. The timr to fight is now. We can argue about it later. I'd love to nominate Netanyahu for president. He'd make a good one.


I've said that for years! We could only hope for someone with the integrity of bibi. :thumbup:

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Aug 8, 2014 19:20:44   #
son of witless
 
Zyro0713 wrote:
Hamas is just as culpable as is Israel, but Netanyahu chose to chastise the US (look it up) and I have the right to say something in this regard.
Answered, and replied to!

I answered when I was called to fight in a war that was not an opinion I was making; but surviving in. Have you ever put up? If so; you should appreciate a person's right to speak his opinion.

NRA member, veteran (wounded), re-upped to go back when the necessity showed up. I don't know if you were there, but if so; you have to be human enough to understand the consequences of collateral damages.
Hamas is just as culpable as is Israel, but Netany... (show quote)


I want to hear more about your military service. What war? How did you suffer your wound?

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Aug 9, 2014 10:33:24   #
Viet Nam Vet 67-68
 
tom1942 wrote:
Tom1942 wrote:

I for one disagree with the prime minster on cease fires. Hamas and their ilk have proven time and time again that there is true evil and it exists. Forget about culture. There is none in the Muslim world; that's why non-secular Muslims like blowing up their past; it reminds them of a civilization they can never achieve. What I cannot understand is Bebe's sudden enthusiasm for the Palestinians. I guess comparing the two, the Palestinians are slightly better. I still however have not forgotten the Palestinian betrayal of Kuwait when Iraq invaded back in 91.
Nor have the Kuwaitis forgotten how the Palestinians betrayed them; Palestinians invited by Kuwait to work and earn money to send back home to their families in Gaza and the West bank. This reminds me that whenever I reach a point in the conversation when I start using the word "moderate" in front of Muslims I need to caution myself that no such Muslim exists---at least none willing to condemn the barbarity of their brethren upon risk of being branded "apostates"---which carries a death sentence. If people today truly understood the threat confronting the world today, the combined nations of the world would mobilize an army the likes never before seen to eradicate this pestilence. Then again, I probably live in a dream world---or nightmare.
Tom1942 wrote: br br I for one disagree with the ... (show quote)


It was an open secret among foreign reporters that Hamas used the Gaza Strip’s main hospital as its command center, reported Yedioth Aharonot, Israel’s largest daily newspaper.



The paper, citing numerous foreign reporters, said journalists reporting from Gaza did not tell their audiences of Hamas’ use of the Al-Shifa hospital because they feared retaliation from Hamas. The newspaper further documented the climate of fear that Hamas instilled in Gaza-based reporters.

The day the conflict started last month, WND became the first and, until now, virtually the only news media outlet to report top Hamas leaders used the Al-Shifa hospital as its command center.

Now, a foreign reporter has told Yedioth “it is an open secret that Hamas uses Al-Shifa hospital as its command center,” but “reporters in Gaza would not report that out of fear that it would endanger them.”

Yedioth quoted another journalist, Palestinian reporter Radjaa Abu Dagga, who said Hamas summoned him to answer for some of his reporting, accusing him of working for an Israeli newspaper.

Dagga said the interrogation by Hamas took place at the Al-Shifa hospital. He said Hamas took his passport and threatened him, forcing the removal of an article published in the French newspaper Libération.

Other reporters explained to Yedioth that Hamas’ spokesmen only agreed to be interviewed in the courtyard of Al-Shifa hospital. This was done likely for safety reasons, with the patients serving as human shields. It also created the impression that only civilians were wounded in Israeli attacks, since civilians were streaming into the hospital for treatment.

Indeed, according to the foreign reporters, Hamas imposed a total news media blackout on any reporting of wounded or dead Hamas fighters, once again trying to convey to the world that only civilians were harmed by Israeli strikes.

A Spanish reporter told Yedioth: “We saw the Hamas men. But had we dared point the cameras at them, they would have opened fire at us and killed us.”


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/hamas-used-main-hospital-as-command-center/#Pt2uh0DGVB4fdiqx.99

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