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Nov 24, 2023 07:58:05   #
Ricktloml
 
AuntiE wrote:


Your contention it is only the ”far right” who are pursuing an ”authoritarianism” era completely ignores the current regime’s authoritarianism. If you do not see them trying to control every part of homes and automobiles, you are bat blind!!
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Makes me wonder just what is so attractive about being a useful idiot. Ignoring/denying decades of murderous policies...the current count, (because Leftists have NEVER STOPPED murdering people by the MILLIONS) is up to 150 MILLION people MURDERED by their own LEFT-WING governments. ENOUGH!

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Nov 24, 2023 08:40:38   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
What is so utterly ignorant is someone who has little, to no, relationship with religion attempting to troll those who do.


At this point and time AuntiE it is not impossible and just because we don't want to believe in it it shouldn't be thrown out as impossible. He has thrown out a tidbit that we should pigeonhole and keep an eye out for further info. As the saying goes don't kill the messenger. The sites liberals go to spit out what we consider BS but they believe the same of ours but from time to time they let slip real information that's what needs to be looked for

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Nov 24, 2023 09:20:55   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
According to reuters.com, the DeSantis campaign paid Bob Vander Plaats $95,000.00 [ninety five thousand dollars] for his "endorsement," rendering it meaningless. That, RR, in my opinion, is not a "split," among evangelicals, but rather a betrayal of Christian values!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-iowa-evangelical-backs-desantis-over-trump-in-us-presidential-race/ar-AA1kjIHT

"The DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to Vander Plaats' organization, the Family Leader, Reuters exclusively reported in August."

RascalRiley wrote:
If you are an evangelical and on the fence right now who would you believe?

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-desantis-iowa-2666342502/

This is what they said. It is not fabricated.

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Nov 24, 2023 09:30:33   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Zemirah wrote:
According to reuters.com, the DeSantis campaign paid Bob Vander Plaats $95,000.00 [ninety five thousand dollars] for his "endorsement," rendering it meaningless. That, RR, in my opinion, is not a "split," among evangelicals, but rather a betrayal of Christian values!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-iowa-evangelical-backs-desantis-over-trump-in-us-presidential-race/ar-AA1kjIHT

"The DeSantis campaign, a super PAC linked to him and a nonprofit group supporting him together paid $95,000 in recent months to Vander Plaats' organization, the Family Leader, Reuters exclusively reported in August."
According to reuters.com, the DeSantis campaign pa... (show quote)


Agreed. How could it be anything else?

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Nov 24, 2023 09:55:10   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
padremike wrote:
Agreed. How could it be anything else?


Padremike, it is no reflection on Jesus Christ, no reflection on the Bible, no reflection on our Almighty Triune Godhead, -

just reaffirmation that God has given every man the free will to choose, and just as in the church congregation in Corinth in the 1st century (the ekklesia), there will always be Christians who make carnal decisions that, unfortunately, bring no glory to God.

The word “carnal” is translated from the Greek word sarkikos, which literally means “fleshly.” This descriptive word is seen in the context of Christians in 1 Corinthians 3:1-3. In this passage, the apostle Paul is addressing the readers as “brethren,” a term he uses almost exclusively to refer to other Christians; he then goes on to describe them as “carnal.” Therefore, we can conclude that Christians can be carnal. The Bible is absolutely clear that no one is sinless (1 John 1:8). Every time we sin, we are acting carnally.

Can a Christian, in a time of personal failure and/or rebellion, appear to be carnal? Yes.
Will a true Christian remain carnal? No.

Until we are delivered from our sinful flesh, by natural earthly death, or in the prophesied rapture, there will be outbreaks of carnality. For a genuine believer in Christ, though, these outbreaks of carnality will be the rare exception, not the rule.

"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us" (1 John 1:9-10).

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Nov 24, 2023 13:26:45   #
martsiva
 
RascalRiley wrote:
If you are an evangelical and on the fence right now who would you believe?

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-desantis-iowa-2666342502/

This is what they said. It is not fabricated.


And this means what? That they have different views?? Of course they are all Christians so you make a big deal out of nothing!!

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Nov 24, 2023 13:38:10   #
martsiva
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Ignore truth at your peril. It is happening.


WHAT truth - that they disagree?? Many Democrats disagree about Biden running!! You ignore the peril your own country is in with Trudeau`s connection to communist WEF!! Why aren`t you posting anything about that??

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Nov 24, 2023 13:42:34   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
martsiva wrote:
And this means what? That they have different views?? Of course they are all Christians so you make a big deal out of nothing!!

The point is, Trump is loosing some Christian supporters.

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Nov 24, 2023 13:50:28   #
martsiva
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Would you like this to be an ‘only trash the vermin’, the libiturds site?

One that promotes the end of the Republic and the beginning of a new era of far right authoritarianism.

Such regimes never end well.


YOU have trashed our Republic more than once!! You have trashed our Constitution and the freedoms we have more than once!! You make a fool of yourself always talking about far right authoritarianism while you support the Marxist communist Democrats and all the damage they`ve done to my country!! You said we`d be better off under them proving you want communist control over my country!! You are a communist!!

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Nov 24, 2023 13:56:22   #
martsiva
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The point is, Trump is loosing some Christian supporters.


When he wins the nomination Christians will be behind him!!

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Nov 24, 2023 14:59:11   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
Ricktloml wrote:
And how often have Leftist run societies succeeded? At NO TIME/NEVER...Left-Wing ideologies/governments have failed miserably each/every time they are tried. They have ZERO authority on the subject. Keep in mind Left-Wing core beliefs:
False Accusations
False Imprisonment
State Torture
State Murder
This is what you get when Leftists are in charge...and they ALWAYS fail...not without a significant amount of death/damage/destruction though.


Leftists Yes they have ALWAYS Failed but not Liberal progressive societies including progressive U.S. presidents(FDR,JFK, LBJ Even TR)

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Nov 24, 2023 15:19:00   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
RascalRiley wrote:
The point is, Trump is loosing some Christian supporters.


Your gangreneous Trump hating eyes make you blind to the neon glaring Truth. Trump is not causing the loss of Christian support. The cultural atheistic Marxist ideology of the Left is responsible. They have broken down our cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity. They've presented homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, and healthy.” They've Infiltrate all our churches and in too many instances promoted compromises that replace "sacred" religion with “social” religion. They've eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principal of “separation of church and state." These things are not Trump's doings, no, they are the intentional doings of the Left. You've got the same troubles in your own country. Wise up. Besides, for someone who worships a cow what do you really care about Christians? You only want to use your Trump hate to blame him for diminishing Christian support.

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Nov 24, 2023 15:24:08   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
Leftists Yes they have ALWAYS Failed but not Liberal progressive societies including progressive U.S. presidents(FDR,JFK, LBJ Even TR)


Forget yesterday. Today a Leftist, a liberal, a Progressive and a Democrat all fall under the umbrella of Cultural Marxism.

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Nov 24, 2023 15:51:30   #
Ricktloml
 
martsiva wrote:
YOU have trashed our Republic more than once!! You have trashed our Constitution and the freedoms we have more than once!! You make a fool of yourself always talking about far right authoritarianism while you support the Marxist communist Democrats and all the damage they`ve done to my country!! You said we`d be better off under them proving you want communist control over my country!! You are a communist!!


When exactly has anyone EVER had it better under left-wing/murderous/communist rule

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Nov 24, 2023 18:58:28   #
Rose42
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
Leftists Yes they have ALWAYS Failed but not Liberal progressive societies including progressive U.S. presidents(FDR,JFK, LBJ Even TR)


FDR, JFK and LBJ were NOT so-called ‘progressives’. That is revisionist history. None of them would want anything to do with today’s democrat party just as past republicans would eschew today’s republican party.

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