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Nov 22, 2023 11:14:37   #
Radiance3
 
whole2th wrote:
I have both Jewish and Muslim friends. Of my friends, violence seems furthest from their ways of being.

By their deeds, the Zionists' actions toward Palestinians more closely resemble what you accuse Muslims of being and doing.

This is PROJECTION of the failings/sins of you and your ilk.

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Wholetooth is a lying German converted to Islam!

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Nov 22, 2023 11:22:06   #
whole2th
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Wholetooth is a lying German converted to Islam!


Men in the white coats should visit you about being institutionalized.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/n72yiutzjgqqng0wc5ckz/Facebook-video-362312679663940.mp4?rlkey=t9lhlz3ry9xisqg8vn1w5fgdg&dl=0



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Nov 22, 2023 12:21:24   #
whole2th
 
https://www.trunews.com/video-article/ibm-pulls-ads-from-x-but-forgets-its-nazi-tabulator-past

My observations of the loathesome behavior here suggests that some of you change agents behave like Nazis.

You're going to love this broadcast from Trunews on Nov. 17. It covers a lot of info including Elon Musk.



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Nov 22, 2023 12:31:04   #
Justice101
 
whole2th wrote:
Radiance3 surely knows that Talmudic doctrine says much the same about how Jews may deceive, seal from and murder the goyim--with impunity.

Jews say a 'kol nidre' prayer annually which absolves them from keeping their word/contracts in the coming year. It's like making a deal with your fingers crossed behind your backs.

Imagine that. Israel going breaking their agreements.


To you, a false prophet
Jeremiah 23:16


Kol Nidrei is recited before the beginning of Yom Kippur.
The vows and pledges being annulled by this ceremony are of a limited category. As the ArtScroll Mahzor explains it: "There is a dangerous and erroneous misconception among some people that the Kol Nidrei nullification of vows—whether past or future—... gives people the right to break their word or to make insincere promises that will have no legal force. This is not the case. The Kol Nidrei declaration can invalidate only vows that one undertakes on his own volition. It has no effect on vows or oath imposed by someone else, or a court. Also, the invalidation of future vows takes effect only if someone makes the vow without having in mind his previous Kol Nidrei declaration. But if he makes the vow with Kol Nidrei in mind—thus being openly insincere in his vow—the vow is in full force."[47] Moreover, as Rabbi Yechiel of Paris explained in a Disputation that took place before the King and Queen of France in 1240, "Only the erroneously broken vows are annulled, that nobody might commit the sin of intentionally breaking vows."[48]

Philip Birnbaum, in his edition of the Mahzor, comments on this passage: "It refers to vows assumed by an individual for himself alone, where no other persons or interests are involved. Though the context makes it perfectly obvious that no vows or obligations towards others are implied, there have been many who were misled into believing that by means of this formula all their vows and oaths are annulled. In the eleventh century Rabbi Meir ben Samuel (Rashi's son-in-law) changed the original wording of Kol Nidré so as to make it apply to the future instead of the past, that is, to vows that one might not be able to fulfill during the next year."[49] This is the Nusach Ashkenaz version, the Nusach Sefard version still refers to the past year. However The Complete ArtScroll Machzor, Yom Kippur, Nusach Sefard has the future with the past included in brackets.

Kol Nidrei is not a prayer, it makes no requests and is not addressed to God, rather, it is a juristic declaration before the Yom Kippur prayers begin. It follows the juridical practice of requiring three men as a tribunal, the procedure beginning before sundown, and of the proclamation being announced three times.[50]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol_Nidre

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Nov 22, 2023 14:50:43   #
whole2th
 
Justice101 wrote:
To you, a false prophet
Jeremiah 23:16


Kol Nidrei is recited before the beginning of Yom Kippur.
The vows and pledges being annulled by this ceremony are of a limited category. As the ArtScroll Mahzor explains it: "There is a dangerous and erroneous misconception among some people that the Kol Nidrei nullification of vows—whether past or future—... gives people the right to break their word or to make insincere promises that will have no legal force. This is not the case. The Kol Nidrei declaration can invalidate only vows that one undertakes on his own volition. It has no effect on vows or oath imposed by someone else, or a court. Also, the invalidation of future vows takes effect only if someone makes the vow without having in mind his previous Kol Nidrei declaration. But if he makes the vow with Kol Nidrei in mind—thus being openly insincere in his vow—the vow is in full force."[47] Moreover, as Rabbi Yechiel of Paris explained in a Disputation that took place before the King and Queen of France in 1240, "Only the erroneously broken vows are annulled, that nobody might commit the sin of intentionally breaking vows."[48]

Philip Birnbaum, in his edition of the Mahzor, comments on this passage: "It refers to vows assumed by an individual for himself alone, where no other persons or interests are involved. Though the context makes it perfectly obvious that no vows or obligations towards others are implied, there have been many who were misled into believing that by means of this formula all their vows and oaths are annulled. In the eleventh century Rabbi Meir ben Samuel (Rashi's son-in-law) changed the original wording of Kol Nidré so as to make it apply to the future instead of the past, that is, to vows that one might not be able to fulfill during the next year."[49] This is the Nusach Ashkenaz version, the Nusach Sefard version still refers to the past year. However The Complete ArtScroll Machzor, Yom Kippur, Nusach Sefard has the future with the past included in brackets.

Kol Nidrei is not a prayer, it makes no requests and is not addressed to God, rather, it is a juristic declaration before the Yom Kippur prayers begin. It follows the juridical practice of requiring three men as a tribunal, the procedure beginning before sundown, and of the proclamation being announced three times.[50]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kol_Nidre
To you, a false prophet br Jeremiah 23:16 br br ... (show quote)


Justifications for breaking vows--going back on one's word. I see.

What I didn't see is any comment about Max Blumenthal's reporting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8

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Nov 22, 2023 15:01:10   #
Justice101
 
whole2th wrote:
Justifications for breaking vows--going back on one's word. I see.

What I didn't see is any comment about Max Blumenthal's reporting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8


Yes, your misinterpretation was aimed at Israel, we expect more of the same.
You're trying to give a moral equivalency to your Islam taqiyya where there is none.

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Nov 22, 2023 15:04:01   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Justice101 wrote:
Yes, your misinterpretation was aimed at Israel, we expect more of the same.
You're trying to give a moral equivalency to your Islam taqiyya where there is none.


This half2th won't last 1 minute in Israel..

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Nov 22, 2023 15:24:20   #
Justice101
 
proud republican wrote:
This half2th won't last 1 minute in Israel..


I agree. I'm getting bored with his same old bs. I think it's time to bid the hateful toothy one adieu don't you?

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Nov 22, 2023 15:27:37   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Justice101 wrote:
I agree. I'm getting bored with his same old bs. I think it's time to bid the hateful toothy one adieu don't you?


I have been saying this for days..1200 hate- filled posts is enough..

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Nov 22, 2023 15:40:06   #
whole2th
 
proud republican wrote:
I have been saying this for days..1200 hate- filled posts is enough..


Hundreds of inane posts that attempt to defame are enough.

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Nov 22, 2023 20:03:51   #
Rose42
 
whole2th wrote:
Hundreds of inane posts that attempt to defame are enough.


You just described your posts. Way past time for you to stop and shut up.

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Nov 22, 2023 20:21:56   #
whole2th
 
Just getting interesting—and you all are crying ‘UNCLE!’

Leave the topic. Simple. Your contributions are nearly all—waste of time and electrons.

Helen of Destroy: “ No one could ever accuse the Israeli government of Benjamin Netanyahu of being underachievers. They have managed to kill nearly 12,000 Palestinians in Gaza in just over a month, almost all civilians, without facing a single meaningful consequence. In addition to more than 4,000 children, the casualties include dozens of medics, journalists, aid workers, and other individuals theoretically extended additional protection under international law. Hundreds of hospitals and clinics, schools, and other civilian sites have been targeted - hell, they’re even blowing up ambulances carrying people they’ve already blown up to hospitals they’re about to blow up. It’s the first genocide to be carried out in the open, full view of the world, Israel’s efforts to sever internet and telephone connections with Gaza Only after a month of this carnage are Americans and their western peers even starting to wake up to the fact that our “greatest ally” in the Middle East is the geopolitical equivalent of Jeffrey Dahmer gnawing on a fresh femur on live television. Even then, as major media organizations reluctantly begin to acknowledge the atrocities unfolding before their eyes, the cracks in their code of silence are only developing because Israel got greedy and started threatening those organizations’ own journalists with execution for being insufficiently harsh in their condemnation of its victims.“

“ Only after a month of this carnage are Americans and their western peers even starting to wake up to the fact that our “greatest ally” in the Middle East is the geopolitical equivalent of Jeffrey Dahmer gnawing on a fresh femur on live television. Even then, as major media organizations reluctantly begin to acknowledge the atrocities unfolding before their eyes, the cracks in their code of silence are only developing because Israel got greedy and started threatening those organizations’ own journalists with execution for being insufficiently harsh in their condemnation of its victims.”



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Nov 22, 2023 20:55:45   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
Because Zionists lie and deceive ... mislead and project their own failings.

A friend writes: Although smugly jubilant in their self-righteousness and control of the media and other weak national governments, many Israelis, especially the government, do not understand the reality of their spiritual situation, and hence, the outcome of their actions. There are three spiritual problems.
Firstly, they neither know nor respect their God, the Creator of the universe and sustainer of life, and whose children they claim to be.
Secondly, they never read what their God says about them in their own scriptures, which thirdly, means that they cannot see the judgment that is coming.
Some 2700 years ago, the prophet Isaiah wrote a stinging rebuke of their behaviour, which resonates strongly today. (See Isaiah, chapter 59). The whole chapter is too long to copy, but the following three verses give an idea of God’s criticisms.
“But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid His face from you, that He will not hear.
For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity: your lips have spoken lies, your tongue has muttered perverseness.
None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief and bring forth iniquity”. (Isa. 59:2-4)
Their own God is a God of justice and not fooled by their psychopathic behaviour. They would be well advised to read their own history and scriptures, as it will tell those who take notice of what is coming.
color=red b Because Zionists lie and deceive ...... (show quote)
If a friend actually wrote that, she didn't do you any favors.
That is a non-contextual, gross misinterpretation of Isaiah 59.
Just what one would expect from an atheist/pagan Jew hating fool.

First of all, Isaiah was not speaking to or about Zionists or Zionism, there was no such thing for another 2500 years.
In fact, a political movement called Zionism appears nowhere in Bible prophesies, neither in the Old or New Testaments.

Isaiah, himself a Jew, did not diagnose the Jews as a psychopathic race or religion, he was speaking to their apostasy, their turning away from God, which occurred on a number of occasions throughout their long history.

Jeremiah, "the Weeping Prophet" is another of God's messenger's, a prophet to the southern kingdom of Judah in the Old Testament, right before Judah ultimately fell to Babylon and was led away into captivity. God sent Jeremiah to a crumbling nation to warn of their impending demise wrought by their apostasy – a warning they didn’t heed.

The great Prophet Daniel was among those taken captive to Babylon where he and his three companions took a courageous stand against the taint of idolatry.

Isaiah 59 is a potent reminder that while our sins may separate us from God, divine intervention and salvation are always within our reach. The promise of the Redeemer and the covenant offers a beacon of hope and reassurance of God's relentless pursuit of a relationship with us, despite our faults.

The idea the Jews "never read what their God says about them in their own scriptures" is another absurd lie.
At synagogues all over the world, then and now, the rabbis read from the scrolls of Moses (The Torah), from the major prophets, so they and their congregations were well aware what "God says about them", and the judgement that would come if they disobeyed and the reward for obedience.

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Nov 22, 2023 21:08:23   #
BIRDMAN
 
whole2th wrote:
Just getting interesting—and you all are crying ‘UNCLE!’

Leave the topic. Simple. Your contributions are nearly all—waste of time and electrons.

Helen of Destroy: “ No one could ever accuse the Israeli government of Benjamin Netanyahu of being underachievers. They have managed to kill nearly 12,000 Palestinians in Gaza in just over a month, almost all civilians, without facing a single meaningful consequence. In addition to more than 4,000 children, the casualties include dozens of medics, journalists, aid workers, and other individuals theoretically extended additional protection under international law. Hundreds of hospitals and clinics, schools, and other civilian sites have been targeted - hell, they’re even blowing up ambulances carrying people they’ve already blown up to hospitals they’re about to blow up. It’s the first genocide to be carried out in the open, full view of the world, Israel’s efforts to sever internet and telephone connections with Gaza Only after a month of this carnage are Americans and their western peers even starting to wake up to the fact that our “greatest ally” in the Middle East is the geopolitical equivalent of Jeffrey Dahmer gnawing on a fresh femur on live television. Even then, as major media organizations reluctantly begin to acknowledge the atrocities unfolding before their eyes, the cracks in their code of silence are only developing because Israel got greedy and started threatening those organizations’ own journalists with execution for being insufficiently harsh in their condemnation of its victims.“

“ Only after a month of this carnage are Americans and their western peers even starting to wake up to the fact that our “greatest ally” in the Middle East is the geopolitical equivalent of Jeffrey Dahmer gnawing on a fresh femur on live television. Even then, as major media organizations reluctantly begin to acknowledge the atrocities unfolding before their eyes, the cracks in their code of silence are only developing because Israel got greedy and started threatening those organizations’ own journalists with execution for being insufficiently harsh in their condemnation of its victims.”
Just getting interesting—and you all are crying ‘U... (show quote)

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Nov 22, 2023 21:37:12   #
BIRDMAN
 
whole2th wrote:
Absurd.


Yes you’re right the Jews won’t let the Muslims go to college

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