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Nov 19, 2023 12:59:41   #
whole2th
 
Yes, I post opinions--many of them the expressed views and subjective-objective observations of Jews.

If your universe values opinions so much that your own opinions are to be taken as sacrosanct, then what matters to you is squelching differing opinions. You want/need censorship.

Consider the irony of "Ad hominem is what you excel at" and the collective of 'rebuttals' from you and yours.

I would say that you don't excel at ad hominem--as the insults and labeling MISS COMPLETELY ADDRESSING the content of what I'm exposing. Just denial, diversion and attempts to make the content somehow false by way of association of the source(s).

You have opinions. You have sources [sometimes]. These are democratic, open airing of viewpoints. Are you against democracy?

What really happened in Israel on Oct. 7? w/ Max Blumenthal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0gECjlpXF8

Note the "Hannibal directive" and its consequences in creating body counts used to justify genocide.

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Nov 19, 2023 13:03:54   #
Cornflakes Loc: Texas
 
whole2th wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/reel/783633473449314

The “most moral army in the world…”? Really, the most immoral terrorist nation/state in the world. How else is it? How more obvious can its actions be, for it’s on display. The move to finally expel by ways on display is obvious.

And it is assisted by America. Providing billions and billions of American tax-payer’s money without asking those tax-payers for that money. Providing billions of armament, paid for by American tax-payer’s money, without asking those tax-payers for the money. Positioning a naval armada off shore of Gaza, ensuring the natural gas reserves will be protected by America, especially if Israel contracts with American oil companies to develop it all.

Billions in the future for Israel, destruction and immiseration in the future for Palestinians, and how cynical, for Israel to pose as “humanitarian” in urging counties to take in “the refugees”. How calculating, how greedy, conniving and calculating is that Zionist country, Israel, to now slaughter, massacre and expel a people brutalized for over 75 years, the longest war of the modern era.

Involving America to join Israel war on civilians, without asking Americans if they want Israel’s war on their conscience. On their soul. On their future as the tally adds a vile outlook for them.

Obviously, Israel is committed to this vile conduct. Obviously, America wants to carve up the middle east and share the spoils with Israel in the Greater Israel goal.

This will not be said by Joe “I’m a Zionist” Biden, or Antony “I come to you as a jew” Blinken.

Those two may as well be the leaders of Israel, for they do more for Israel than for America, considering how they foster the genocide by Israel so that it can attain its Greater Israel. What does Israel do in return? Provide a military base so that America can attain its hegemony in the near/middle east? And that America, it is the deep state, the oligarchy, the plutocracy and enrichment of the Big Oil Companies, and last, the international financiers, in the City of London, New York’s Wall Street tycoons and the international jewish bankers, world-wide beyond those two centers.

Those who do not want that identified, call the statement above as they will. It’s real, it’s provable and operating.
https://www.facebook.com/reel/783633473449314 br ... (show quote)


Why not mention that you would rather pay Iran for the Natural Gas/ they would be the most likely beneficiaries of the development of those resources and would those squatter Palestines get any benefits/ guessing they should assist those Zionists for a better deal..after the military action is done labor will be needed to build infrastructure, the Palestines should know better than anyone to not trust other Arabs or Iranians 🤠

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Nov 19, 2023 13:12:41   #
whole2th
 
Clues ... connect the dots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd81iN_km1g



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Nov 19, 2023 13:16:45   #
whole2th
 
Cornflakes wrote:
Why not mention that you would rather pay Iran for the Natural Gas/ they would be the most likely beneficiaries of the development of those resources and would those squatter Palestines get any benefits/ guessing they should assist those Zionists for a better deal..after the military action is done labor will be needed to build infrastructure, the Palestines should know better than anyone to not trust other Arabs or Iranians 🤠


'squatter Palestines' [Palestinians] You love to invert reality.

Slaves will be needed to build infrastructure seems a more correct scenario.

You propose 'such a deal!' for the Palestinian slaves (genocide survivors) who will be enslaved to build infrastructure.

Precedents for genocide is for survivors of the genocide to get reparations.

Trust Zionists to make a deal? Their 'kol nidre' prayer says all we need to know--AND, past violations of their word + attacks on their allies prove who cannot be trusted.

Zionists act like Nazis as they carry out their agenda for a Greater Israel.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/11/15/blowback-italian-azov-tied-nazi-terror/





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Nov 19, 2023 15:51:51   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
whole2th wrote:
'squatter Palestines' [Palestinians] You love to invert reality.

Slaves will be needed to build infrastructure seems a more correct scenario.

You propose 'such a deal!' for the Palestinian slaves (genocide survivors) who will be enslaved to build infrastructure.

Precedents for genocide is for survivors of the genocide to get reparations.

Trust Zionists to make a deal? Their 'kol nidre' prayer says all we need to know--AND, past violations of their word + attacks on their allies prove who cannot be trusted.

Zionists act like Nazis as they carry out their agenda for a Greater Israel.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/11/15/blowback-italian-azov-tied-nazi-terror/
'squatter Palestines' Palestinians You love to ... (show quote)


Behind
COMMUNISM
circa 1953
By Frank L. Britton
(down loaded from the internet)
Behind Communism : Frank L Britton : Free Download & Streaming ...
http://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism
by Frank L Britton. Probably published in 1952.

When Behind Communism was first published, the official position of the U.S.S.R. was that Lenin was a Slavic Russian, not a Jew. However, subsequent to the book's publication, following the fall of the Iron Curtain in the mid- 80's, it was finally admitted that, indeed, the monstrous criminal, Vladimir Lenin, was a Jew!
The curator and director of the Lenin Museum has recently affirmed Lenin's Jewish ancestry. In July of 1991, the well known Jewish publication, Jewish Chronicle, also reported this fact. This means that Karl Marx, Moses Hess, Lenin, Trotsky, and virtually all Marxist/Communist founders were Jewish.



THE PERSECUTION MYTH
With Shrill Insistence
We cannot undertake even this brief history of the modern Jew without taking note of a phenomenon which has confounded gentile societies for twenty centuries. This is the ability of the Jewish people
to collectively retain their identity despite centuries of exposure to Christian civilization. To any student of Judaism, or to the Jews themselves, this phenomenon is partly explained by the fact that Judaism is neither mainly a religion, nor mainly a racial matter, nor yet is it simply a matter of nationality. Rather it is all three; it is a kind of trinity. Judaism is best described as a nationality built on the twin pillars of race and religion.
All this is closely related to another aspect of Judaism, namely, the persecution myth. Since first appearing in history we find the Jews propagating the idea that they are an abused and persecuted people, and this idea is, and has always been, central in Jewish thinking. The myth of persecution is the adhesive and cement of Judaism; without it Jews would have long since ceased to exist, their racial-religious nationality notwithstanding. Jews do not always agree among themselves, and it is only in the presence of their enemies—real or imagined—that Jewish thinking crystalizes into unanimity. In this respect they differ not at all from other peoples: Adolph Hitler solidified German opinion around the idea that Germany was wronged at Versailles, that the German people
were abused and victimized by the Allies, and that only by holding together could they prevail against the overwhelming might of their enemies ...
For twenty-five centuries the Jewish mind has been conditioned by the same appeal. Through all Jewish thinking and all Jewish history the refrain of persecution has sounded with shrill insistence. Thus we find every accident of fortune being chronicled, enhanced, and passed on to succeeding generations as another example of gentile cruelty to the chosen race. And almost inevitably we find opposition to Jewish aspirations and ambitions being translated into these same terms of
persecution, and all Jewish shortcomings being excused on the same
basis.
Now it is a fact that the Jewish people have suffered numerous hardships in the course of their history, but this is true of other peoples too. The chief difference is that the Jews have kept score — they have made a tradition of persecution. A casual slaughter of Christians
is remembered by no one in 50 years, but a disability visited upon a
few Jews is preserved forever in Jewish histories. And they tell their
woes not only to themselves, but to a sympathetic world as well . . .
Throughout the Medieval period*, which lasted from 500 A.D. to 1300 A.D., the Jew merchant was dominant all over Europe (except Scandinavia, where he was never permitted to enter) and this dominance included control over the eastern trade routes to the Levant.
There was to be no relief from this situation until the Jews were evicted from Europe in the century directly preceding the Renaissance. In 1215 the Catholic Church, at the Fourth Lateran Council, broke the back of European Jewry with a set of restrictions designed to curb their commercial monopoly. These decrees restricted Jews to residence in their own communities, prohibited absolutely their hiring of Christian employees and prohibited them from engaging in many types of
commercial activity.
Expelled
The Fourth Lateren Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the 13th century, one European country after another expelled it's NOTE: Encyclopedia Britannica is used as a reference source because of its ready availability
to the average reader. It is not an "anti-Semitic" publication. In fact, the Encyclopedia Britannica Corporation was purchased by the Julius Rosenwald interests in 1920, and since then all material pertaining to the Jewish question has been re-written to conform to the Jewish outlook.
The FUNK & WAGNALL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (see preceding page) is uniformly
referred to throughout this work as the "Jewish Encyclopedia." Consisting of 12 volumes, it is
available in all major libraries. It should not be confused with the 10 volume "Universal Jewish Encyclopedia," published by Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Inc., New York, 1939.
Both, however, are authoritative Jewish publications, compiled by and for Jews.

Jewish population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen year slater, in 1306, the French followed suit. In steady succession the various States of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the
last to enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting Says Encyclopedia Britannica1: ". . . The 14th century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the preaching of a priest of
Seville, Fernando Martenez, led to the first general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and hated because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors, turned their attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world (or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on
an innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in 1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the privileged the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the gouging tax collectors . . .

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Nov 19, 2023 18:14:33   #
Cornflakes Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Behind
COMMUNISM
circa 1953
By Frank L. Britton
(down loaded from the internet)
Behind Communism : Frank L Britton : Free Download & Streaming ...
http://archive.org/details/BehindCommunism
by Frank L Britton. Probably published in 1952.

When Behind Communism was first published, the official position of the U.S.S.R. was that Lenin was a Slavic Russian, not a Jew. However, subsequent to the book's publication, following the fall of the Iron Curtain in the mid- 80's, it was finally admitted that, indeed, the monstrous criminal, Vladimir Lenin, was a Jew!
The curator and director of the Lenin Museum has recently affirmed Lenin's Jewish ancestry. In July of 1991, the well known Jewish publication, Jewish Chronicle, also reported this fact. This means that Karl Marx, Moses Hess, Lenin, Trotsky, and virtually all Marxist/Communist founders were Jewish.



THE PERSECUTION MYTH
With Shrill Insistence
We cannot undertake even this brief history of the modern Jew without taking note of a phenomenon which has confounded gentile societies for twenty centuries. This is the ability of the Jewish people
to collectively retain their identity despite centuries of exposure to Christian civilization. To any student of Judaism, or to the Jews themselves, this phenomenon is partly explained by the fact that Judaism is neither mainly a religion, nor mainly a racial matter, nor yet is it simply a matter of nationality. Rather it is all three; it is a kind of trinity. Judaism is best described as a nationality built on the twin pillars of race and religion.
All this is closely related to another aspect of Judaism, namely, the persecution myth. Since first appearing in history we find the Jews propagating the idea that they are an abused and persecuted people, and this idea is, and has always been, central in Jewish thinking. The myth of persecution is the adhesive and cement of Judaism; without it Jews would have long since ceased to exist, their racial-religious nationality notwithstanding. Jews do not always agree among themselves, and it is only in the presence of their enemies—real or imagined—that Jewish thinking crystalizes into unanimity. In this respect they differ not at all from other peoples: Adolph Hitler solidified German opinion around the idea that Germany was wronged at Versailles, that the German people
were abused and victimized by the Allies, and that only by holding together could they prevail against the overwhelming might of their enemies ...
For twenty-five centuries the Jewish mind has been conditioned by the same appeal. Through all Jewish thinking and all Jewish history the refrain of persecution has sounded with shrill insistence. Thus we find every accident of fortune being chronicled, enhanced, and passed on to succeeding generations as another example of gentile cruelty to the chosen race. And almost inevitably we find opposition to Jewish aspirations and ambitions being translated into these same terms of
persecution, and all Jewish shortcomings being excused on the same
basis.
Now it is a fact that the Jewish people have suffered numerous hardships in the course of their history, but this is true of other peoples too. The chief difference is that the Jews have kept score — they have made a tradition of persecution. A casual slaughter of Christians
is remembered by no one in 50 years, but a disability visited upon a
few Jews is preserved forever in Jewish histories. And they tell their
woes not only to themselves, but to a sympathetic world as well . . .
Throughout the Medieval period*, which lasted from 500 A.D. to 1300 A.D., the Jew merchant was dominant all over Europe (except Scandinavia, where he was never permitted to enter) and this dominance included control over the eastern trade routes to the Levant.
There was to be no relief from this situation until the Jews were evicted from Europe in the century directly preceding the Renaissance. In 1215 the Catholic Church, at the Fourth Lateran Council, broke the back of European Jewry with a set of restrictions designed to curb their commercial monopoly. These decrees restricted Jews to residence in their own communities, prohibited absolutely their hiring of Christian employees and prohibited them from engaging in many types of
commercial activity.
Expelled
The Fourth Lateren Council restricted Jewish commercial advantage but it did not end the Jewish problem. Beginning in the latter part of the 13th century, one European country after another expelled it's NOTE: Encyclopedia Britannica is used as a reference source because of its ready availability
to the average reader. It is not an "anti-Semitic" publication. In fact, the Encyclopedia Britannica Corporation was purchased by the Julius Rosenwald interests in 1920, and since then all material pertaining to the Jewish question has been re-written to conform to the Jewish outlook.
The FUNK & WAGNALL JEWISH ENCYCLOPEDIA (see preceding page) is uniformly
referred to throughout this work as the "Jewish Encyclopedia." Consisting of 12 volumes, it is
available in all major libraries. It should not be confused with the 10 volume "Universal Jewish Encyclopedia," published by Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Inc., New York, 1939.
Both, however, are authoritative Jewish publications, compiled by and for Jews.

Jewish population as the only final solution to the problem. First to take the step was England which banned them in 1290. Fifteen year slater, in 1306, the French followed suit. In steady succession the various States of Europe emulated this example with Spain being one of the
last to enforce the ban in 1492. The situation in Spain is worth noting Says Encyclopedia Britannica1: ". . . The 14th century was the golden age of their history in Spain. In 1391 the preaching of a priest of
Seville, Fernando Martenez, led to the first general massacre of the Jews who were envied for their prosperity and hated because they were the king's tax collectors." Ferdinand and Isabella, after uniting Spain and driving out the Moors, turned their attention to the Jewish problem, with the result that they were evicted completely in 1492. In 1498 Portugal evicted its Jewish population also.
The Exploiters
A great deal has been said about the "persecution" of the Jews in Europe and elsewhere, and they have pretty well convinced the world (or at least Americans) that these hardships were inflicted on
an innocent people. But these rich Spanish Jews we see being evicted in 1492 were not down-trodden folk. They were the wealthy, the privileged the exploiters: they were the well-fed merchants and the gouging tax collectors . . .
Behind br COMMUNISM br circa 1953 br By Frank L. B... (show quote)


Eagle, this is a very informative post on Jewish history/ what is wrong with a particular people acquiring wealth, are you saying that there is nothing good about the philosophy and furthermore like your apparent partner tooth you express a hatred for all Jews; could it be that you guys are jealous of achievements and like the Nazi culture that still survives today you would be happy with their complete annihilation, just expressing my personal views here..were I able to gain personal wealth, would you then set yourself to target my achievements..much like those who admire the likes of Bin Laden, George Floyd, Hitler and countless others..you are what’s wrong in this World, you should use that hatred towards the Bill Gates of the World who scheme for dominance thru manipulation and have so much wealth they have no use for civilization 🤠

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Nov 19, 2023 18:19:36   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Cornflakes wrote:
Eagle, this is a very informative post on Jewish history/ what is wrong with a particular people acquiring wealth, are you saying that there is nothing good about the philosophy and furthermore like your apparent partner tooth you express a hatred for all Jews; could it be that you guys are jealous of achievements and like the Nazi culture that still survives today you would be happy with their complete annihilation, just expressing my personal views here..were I able to gain personal wealth, would you then set yourself to target my achievements..much like those who admire the likes of Bin Laden, George Floyd, Hitler and countless others..you are what’s wrong in this World, you should use that hatred towards the Bill Gates of the World who scheme for dominance thru manipulation and have so much wealth they have no use for civilization 🤠
Eagle, this is a very informative post on Jewish h... (show quote)



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Nov 19, 2023 20:40:15   #
whole2th
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-0ZBjoSDo

Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.







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Nov 19, 2023 20:51:20   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
whole2th wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-0ZBjoSDo

Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.


Israel us ridding the earth of an atrocity called Hamas. Ty Israel

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Nov 19, 2023 20:52:17   #
whole2th
 
microphor wrote:
Israel us ridding the earth of an atrocity called Hamas. Ty Israel


Israel was an active participant in creating Hamas as a counter to the PLO.

You missed watching Scott Ritter's video?

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Nov 19, 2023 21:00:33   #
Justice101
 
whole2th wrote:
Israel was an active participant in creating Hamas as a counter to the PLO.

You missed watching Scott Ritter's video?


You're talking about Scott Ritter the convicted sex offender?

Ex-UN inspector Scott Ritter guilty in sex chat case
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13089135

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Nov 19, 2023 21:01:43   #
whole2th
 
Justice101 wrote:
You're talking about Scott Ritter the convicted sex offender?

Ex-UN inspector Scott Ritter guilty in sex chat case
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-13089135


You're ignoring the detailed descriptions--and focusing upon the man.

Typical of you deceivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-0ZBjoSDo

Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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Nov 19, 2023 21:10:10   #
Justice101
 
whole2th wrote:
You're ignoring the detailed descriptions--and focusing upon the man.

Typical of you deceivers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9-0ZBjoSDo

Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity.


Focusing on the man and his uncomely reputation gives one pause to consider his revelations as merely bull scat in the rawest sense of terms.

It occurs as no wonder that you choose such lowly characters to help disseminate your egregious propaganda and Jew hate.

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Nov 19, 2023 21:13:15   #
whole2th
 
Justice101 wrote:
Focusing on the man and his uncomely reputation gives one pause to consider his revelations as merely bull scat in the rawest sense of terms.

It occurs as no wonder that you choose such lowly characters to help disseminate your egregious propaganda and Jew hate.


Perhaps you can find reason to doubt these Jews' admissions against their own interests?

Their stand fits with what Scott Ritter calls 'war crimes'.

https://alethonews.com/2023/11/14/racist-and-genocidal-zionist-leaders-and-cheerleaders-in-their-own-words/

proud republican wrote:
Excellent point!!!


If Israelis/Jews themselves had not admitted to the criminal conduct--intentions to genocide civilians, it might have been an "excellent" point. Turns out 'justice' is sidestepping and losing the point.

“Be triumphant and finish them off and don’t leave any behind. Erase the memory of them Erase them, their families, their mothers and their children. These animals can no longer live.”

Ezra Yachin, 95, former Stern Gang terrorist, now back in the occupation forces. October 2023

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Nov 19, 2023 21:15:13   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Justice101 wrote:
Focusing on the man and his uncomely reputation gives one pause to consider his revelations as merely bull scat in the rawest sense of terms.

It occurs as no wonder that you choose such lowly characters to help disseminate your egregious propaganda and Jew hate.


Excellent point!!!

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