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Nov 12, 2023 01:09:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
These politicians simply dole out American’s money without presenting it to America. I never voted, nor would I vote to give money to Israel, for it is not an ally to America. It is dragging America into another war in the middle east for its benefit, its expansion, its genocide of the non-citizen ‘citizens’. A horrible terrorist country, which calls their victims “animals”."
Tell me, buckaroo, what would you call a bunch of wild men who hack off the head of a baby then play soccer with it?


Been watching daily briefings by an IDF PIO, a Lt. Colonel.
Last night he was showing videos recorded by Israeli soldiers in Gaza, and one segment of his talk was on the propaganda flowing out of Gaza about civilian casualties.

Hamas doesn't play by any rules. They do not fight in military uniforms, they dress to blend in with the civilian population.

As a Military Intelligence psychologist put it, the Hamas/Civilian relationship can be seen as a symbiosis in its first definition - A close, prolonged association between two or more different organisms of different species that may, but does not necessarily, benefit each member.

The civilians are the host and Hamas is the Symbiont (interloper)
A symbiont is an organism that uses another organism as a habitat, or host.

Ya gotta play with that a bit, make some leaps and stuff, but you get the idea.

The colonel said something to this effect:
Israeli Soldiers are not targeting civilians,
they are targeting men between the ages of 17 and 35 who are carrying weapons - AKs, M16s, RPGs, grenades -
in or out of uniform.

He showed video of young men in civilian clothes carrying just such weapons and running from the IDF like dogs with their asses on fire. Some soldiers were shooting at them, but mostly they were laughing.

He showed a group of Israeli soldiers planting their flag on a Mediterranean beach.
Part of a unit of the IDF that is surrounding a large Hamas compound in the north of Gaza City.
This compound is a rectangle of city blocks and is Hamas' HQ and staging area, weapons and ammo storage, weapons manufacturing plant (those crazy bastards dug up some of the city's water pipes to make rockets),
supply depots and warehouses - kinda like Bagram Airbase in A-Stan but without the airport.
And the IDF has already nailed Hamas' chief weapons engineer.
They are gonna take that place apart and kill every Hamas "Pig Butt" in it.

This IDF colonel is a really cool guy. He also told what the IDF has done to assist Palestinian civilians to evacuate the north and get down south, toward the gate to Egypt, where "Humanitarian Aid" is coming in truck loads.
IDF soldiers and armor formed a secure corridor from north to south, cleared rubble, opened streets, and as of yesterday, they have evacuated 900,000 Palestinians to food, water, medical, and safety.

Oorah!

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Nov 12, 2023 09:51:57   #
whole2th
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I think you are so ignorant wholetooth! Be informed that the money for $14.3 billion for Israel has been appropriated and approved by Congress. That does not bypass you as a taxpayer because the Congressman you've elected in your district had approved that funding.

Congress does the appropriations for all federal spending. Israel is the closest friend of the US, the smallest, and the only democrat country in the ME.

Biden refuses to sign the $14.3 billion for Israel, unless his Ukraine funding to sucker Zelensky gets the $61.4. Biden is asking $106 billion. I wonder how he'll spend the difference.

Biden has been violating Congress by printing so much money to buy campaign election. Paying to more of social programs.

Ukraine is not a NATO member. Last year US spent $122.billion for Ukraine. Democrats control Congress at that time.

Without Congress approval Biden sent $250 million to Palestine when he first begun in 2021. When Barack left the WH, he also sent $221 million to Palestine, all of them bypassed Congress. Biden had sent $100 million to Palestine, which went to Hamas. All of these funding went to Hamas. Palestine has been controlled by Hamas after Arafat.

I prefer that Israel continues the attacks in Gaza until Hamas is totally eliminated. No ceasefire. Ceasefire only prolongs the war and Hamas could reenforce and create strategic defenses.

Hamas built its nuclear infrastructure under the Gaza hospital. They use the hospital as shield, and the Palestinian people. Then they launch their weapon from the hospital. Israel responds to Hamas but instead hurt the hospital. Hamas parades and displays to the whole world.

Now the whole world hates Israel because of those deceptive disclosures of Hamas. Since you hate Israel so much, I think you are happy about that. But Israel will survive. God is with her.
================ br I I think you are so ignora... (show quote)


Your allegation that Hamas hides a nuclear program under the Gaza hospital might be supported by some evidence--yet, no evidence is provided. I call "BS".

And blade's allegation about playing soccer with one baby head--outrageous enough it should be verified. Forty baby beheadings--same. Raped Israeli women--same. Reminds me of human soap, lampshades and six million narratives.

Did you listen to the most recent Lex Fridman interview of Elon Musk where Musk characterized Israel's actions as 'genocide' and Musk suggested what Israel must do immediately to shift public opinion?

Hamas was initially founded to counter the PLO (Arafat) and helped in its formation by Mossad. Creation of Hamas divided Palestinians--a tactic for conquer through splitting goals. Just prior to creation of Hamas, progress was being made to 'play nice'. Look who was assassinated by radical Jews to thwart the progress.

Israel has made many attacks on US and other world assets--making Israel an ENEMY (and parasite) of the US. What specifically are the benefits deriving from this strange alliance with Israel?

Israel is an apartheid state--not a democracy. Demonstrations against the Netanyahu regime are mostly hidden from Western (Zionist-controlled) media.

One reason I continue here at OPP is my fascination with the inversions of reality by you Zionists. You teach me by your bad examples. I have grown in my understanding and perspective from your contempt for truth and justice, radiance3.

https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/

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Nov 12, 2023 09:59:11   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
whole2th wrote:
Your allegation that Hamas hides a nuclear program under the Gaza hospital might be supported by some evidence--yet, no evidence is provided. I call "BS".

Did you listen to the most recent Lex Fridman interview of Elon Musk where Musk characterized Israel's actions as 'genocide' and Musk suggested what Israel must do immediately to shift public opinion?

Hamas was initially founded to counter the PLO (Arafat) and helped in its formation by Mossad.

Israel has made many attacks on US and other world assets--making Israel an ENEMY (and parasite) of the US.

Israel is an apartheid state--not a democracy. Demonstrations against the Netanyahu regime are mostly hidden from Western (Zionist-controlled) media.

One reason I continue here at OPP is my fascination with the inversions of reality by you Zionists. You teach me by your bad examples. I have grown in my understanding and perspective from your contempt for truth and justice, radiance3.

https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/
Your allegation that Hamas hides a nuclear program... (show quote)


You need to change the channel, you're a goner!

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Nov 12, 2023 10:04:52   #
whole2th
 
microphor wrote:
You need to change the channel, you're a goner!


~Q
~W

define 'goner'

Is this a threat? No doubt you are a Zionist. Threats are one tactic of Zionists.

How does Elon Musk's suggestion of what Israel must do immediately occur in your thinking? His suggestion occurs early in the Lex Fridman interview.

Yes, this is a very insightful article: https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/ And, the writing in the article is not mine--so, you may debate with the author whose views are spreading more quickly during Israel's psychopathic genocide.

I should note for those interested in reading these exchanges that NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE refutes my basic points. Allegations by Zionists are rarely corroborated with evidence. Your "narratives" are mostly deceptions.

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Nov 12, 2023 10:23:12   #
Radiance3
 
whole2th wrote:
Your allegation that Hamas hides a nuclear program under the Gaza hospital might be supported by some evidence--yet, no evidence is provided. I call "BS".

Did you listen to the most recent Lex Fridman interview of Elon Musk where Musk characterized Israel's actions as 'genocide' and Musk suggested what Israel must do immediately to shift public opinion?

Hamas was initially founded to counter the PLO (Arafat) and helped in its formation by Mossad.

Israel has made many attacks on US and other world assets--making Israel an ENEMY (and parasite) of the US.

Israel is an apartheid state--not a democracy. Demonstrations against the Netanyahu regime are mostly hidden from Western (Zionist-controlled) media.

One reason I continue here at OPP is my fascination with the inversions of reality by you Zionists. You teach me by your bad examples. I have grown in my understanding and perspective from your contempt for truth and justice, radiance3.

https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/
Your allegation that Hamas hides a nuclear program... (show quote)

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Truth? Muslims are the greatest LIARS of the earth. You a Nazi, loves Muslims who always lie! You believe on that link posted by a liberal troll. Perhaps CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WA Post, CBS, ABC, Raw Stories.

Muslims are all jealous of Israel. Because Jews are mostly sharp and capitalist venturers. Capitalism and freedom are the best ways to achieve and succeed. That's what the Jewish people all over the world are mostly successful.
Because of capitalism, the United States has gone on top of all nations. Even communist China follows capitalism because it is the economic system that produce most.

Socialism is worst along with Marxist -Communism. These are all centered to the powers of Totalitarians and Dictators. People are enslaved and dictated what to do. No freedom to think for their own ideas.

You don't know how the economy works. But rely on dictates of violent Muslims. Why are Muslims violent? It is written on their Quran and Hadith by Mohammad, who claims to be next to his god. He raped female, young and old specially the Christians and Jews. And now all Muslims are rapists.
E.g. what they did on Oct. 7, 2023. What they have been doing to the Christians in the ME. What they have done to Christian women since the Muslim armies were sent to Jerusalem ordered by the Mohammad officers from Mecca during the 7th century CE.

Muslims killed 270 million worldwide who are not Muslims. Re: Tears of Jihad. Political Islam by Dr. Bill Warner, PH. D and professor in Physic.

Muslims' goals, to kill those who don't submit. They are all ordered in the Quran.

Most schools in the US are indoctrinated to Islam. Except the Catholic Schools.

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Nov 12, 2023 10:34:04   #
Justice101
 
whole2th wrote:
~Q
~W

define 'goner'

Is this a threat? No doubt you are a Zionist. Threats are one tactic of Zionists.

How does Elon Musk's suggestion of what Israel must do immediately occur in your thinking? His suggestion occurs early in the Lex Fridman interview.

Yes, this is a very insightful article: https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/ And, the writing in the article is not mine--so, you may debate with the author whose views are spreading more quickly during Israel's psychopathic genocide.

I should note for those interested in reading these exchanges that NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE refutes my basic points. Allegations by Zionists are rarely corroborated with evidence. Your "narratives" are mostly deceptions.
~Q br ~W br br define 'goner' br br Is this a th... (show quote)


You're too lazy to look up a word, yet you have plenty of time to post your propaganda and lies.

goner /gô′nər, gŏn′ər/
noun
One that is ruined or doomed.
One who or that which is lost, ruined, or past recovery.
Someone (or something) doomed; a hopeless case.

All these are applicable to your bigoted hide.

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Nov 12, 2023 10:37:02   #
Radiance3
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Tell me, buckaroo, what would you call a bunch of wild men who hack off the head of a baby then play soccer with it?


Been watching daily briefings by an IDF PIO, a Lt. Colonel.
Last night he was showing videos recorded by Israeli soldiers in Gaza, and one segment of his talk was on the propaganda flowing out of Gaza about civilian casualties.

Hamas doesn't play by any rules. They do not fight in military uniforms, they dress to blend in with the civilian population.

As a Military Intelligence psychologist put it, the Hamas/Civilian relationship can be seen as a symbiosis in its first definition - A close, prolonged association between two or more different organisms of different species that may, but does not necessarily, benefit each member.

The civilians are the host and Hamas is the Symbiont (interloper)
A symbiont is an organism that uses another organism as a habitat, or host.

Ya gotta play with that a bit, make some leaps and stuff, but you get the idea.

The colonel said something to this effect:
Israeli Soldiers are not targeting civilians,
they are targeting men between the ages of 17 and 35 who are carrying weapons - AKs, M16s, RPGs, grenades -
in or out of uniform.

He showed video of young men in civilian clothes carrying just such weapons and running from the IDF like dogs with their asses on fire. Some soldiers were shooting at them, but mostly they were laughing.

He showed a group of Israeli soldiers planting their flag on a Mediterranean beach.
Part of a unit of the IDF that is surrounding a large Hamas compound in the north of Gaza City.
This compound is a rectangle of city blocks and is Hamas' HQ and staging area, weapons and ammo storage, weapons manufacturing plant (those crazy bastards dug up some of the city's water pipes to make rockets),
supply depots and warehouses - kinda like Bagram Airbase in A-Stan but without the airport.
And the IDF has already nailed Hamas' chief weapons engineer.
They are gonna take that place apart and kill every Hamas "Pig Butt" in it.

This IDF colonel is a really cool guy. He also told what the IDF has done to assist Palestinian civilians to evacuate the north and get down south, toward the gate to Egypt, where "Humanitarian Aid" is coming in truck loads.
IDF soldiers and armor formed a secure corridor from north to south, cleared rubble, opened streets, and as of yesterday, they have evacuated 900,000 Palestinians to food, water, medical, and safety.

Oorah!
Tell me, buckaroo, what would you call a bunch of ... (show quote)

================
Correct!

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Nov 12, 2023 10:43:01   #
whole2th
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Truth? Muslims are the greatest LIARS of the earth. You a Nazi, loves Muslims who always lie! You believe on that link posted by a liberal troll. Perhaps CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WA Post, CBS, ABC, Raw Stories.

Muslims are all jealous of Israel. Because Jews are mostly sharp and capitalist venturers. Capitalism and freedom are the best ways to achieve and succeed. That's what the Jewish people all over the world are mostly successful.
Because of capitalism, the United States has gone on top of all nations. Even communist China follows capitalism because it is the economic system that produce most.

Socialism is worst along with Marxist -Communism. These are all centered to the powers of Totalitarians and Dictators. People are enslaved and dictated what to do. No freedom to think for their own ideas.

You don't know how the economy works. But rely on dictates of violent Muslims. Why are Muslims violent? It is written on their Quran and Hadith by Mohammad, who claims to be next to his god. He raped female, young and old specially the Christians and Jews. And now all Muslims are rapists.
E.g. what they did on Oct. 7, 2023. What they have been doing to the Christians in the ME. What they have done to Christian women since the Muslim armies were sent to Jerusalem ordered by the Mohammad officers from Mecca during the 7th century CE.

Muslims killed 270 million worldwide who are not Muslims. Re: Tears of Jihad. Political Islam by Dr. Bill Warner, PH. D and professor in Physic.

Muslims' goals, to kill those who don't submit. They are all ordered in the Quran.

Most schools in the US are indoctrinated to Islam. Except the Catholic Schools.
=============== br I Truth? Muslims are the gre... (show quote)


Pure projection, Radiance3. Look in the mirror.

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Nov 12, 2023 10:45:01   #
whole2th
 
Justice101 wrote:
You're too lazy to look up a word, yet you have plenty of time to post your propaganda and lies.

goner /gô′nər, gŏn′ər/
noun
One that is ruined or doomed.
One who or that which is lost, ruined, or past recovery.
Someone (or something) doomed; a hopeless case.

All these are applicable to your bigoted hide.


Orwell established in 1984 the technique of making words mean something other than their actual meaning.

So, are you saying that you didn't threaten me?

How do you define 'narrative' and how is 'narrative' distinguished from truth?



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Nov 12, 2023 10:46:16   #
Rose42
 
whole2th wrote:

define 'goner'

Is this a threat? No doubt you are a Zionist. Threats are one tactic of Zionists.



This is one example of you being too far gone. No rational person would think that was a threat. Your bigotry makes you irrational

Quote:
How does Elon Musk's suggestion of what Israel must do immediately occur in your thinking?


Who cares? Musk is just another person with an opinion.

Quote:
Yes, this is a very insightful article: https://alethonews.com/2010/08/23/four-reasons-why-americans-should-oppose-zionism/ And, the writing in the article is not mine--so, you may debate with the author whose views are spreading more quickly during Israel's psychopathic genocide.


I doubt it. Your comments reveal its your same old trope whover wrote it.

Quote:
I should note for those interested in reading these exchanges that NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE refutes my basic points. Allegations by Zionists are rarely corroborated with evidence. Your "narratives" are mostly deceptions.


You have been refuted MANY, MANY times. Your tactic is to ignore it and pretend it never happened. You claim others are deceptive when its actually YOU who is.

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Nov 12, 2023 11:15:36   #
whole2th
 
Rose42 wrote:
You have been refuted MANY, MANY times. Your tactic is to ignore it and pretend it never happened. You claim others are deceptive when its actually YOU who is.


Yes, you PROJECT your own failings--exactly my point.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=193199

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Nov 12, 2023 12:07:02   #
Radiance3
 
whole2th wrote:
Pure projection, Radiance3. Look in the mirror.


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Projections.? They are all facts happening right on your own eyes. But you close your eyes and deny the evilness of Hamas and Muslim radicals.

Nazis hate the Jews so much, why? Because Jews are smart. Most world scientist despite of their small population are Jews. Hitler was scared, and wanted to eradicate all of them. So as the Muslims!

Have you known any human being burning babies alive, or chopping their heads off? I know you will deny this. And close your eyes. Anybody who burns babies alive are the evilest of all evils of the Satanic world. And who are they? Hamas and the radical Muslims.

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Nov 12, 2023 12:38:11   #
Rose42
 
whole2th wrote:
Yes, you PROJECT your own failings--exactly my point.

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=193199


Again you try in vain to turn your many failures to prove your opinions onto others.

Don’t bother with links. No one reads them anymore.

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Nov 12, 2023 12:46:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Rose42 wrote:
Again you try in vain to turn your many failures to prove your opinions onto others.

Don’t bother with links. No one reads them anymore.


WHY are we still responding to this hate-filled hitler-loving person???? I think 59 pages of his hate is more than enough!!!!!!!!!! io

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Nov 12, 2023 13:01:19   #
whole2th
 
proud republican wrote:
WHY are we still responding to this hate-filled hitler-living person???? I think 59 pages of his hate is more than enough!!!!!!!!!!


I would be embarrassed to be repeating the 'pissing posts' here. I know there are lurkers who read these posts and links, so I see value in sharing what I've been learning.

Keep it up, PR. Keep digging your hole.

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