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Nov 8, 2023 14:23:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
I know my own mind and heart. It's the deep concern for the misery which Zionism has inflicted upon the human journey that motivates me.
We need to define our terms and crunch some numbers.

There are two kinds of Zionism - Protocol Zionism and Herzl Zionism.

Protocol Zionism is a fiction. It is based on a work of fiction by Russian secret police, plagiarized from a work of fiction by a French author. The "Learned Elders of Zion" are the fictitious authors/narrators of a work of fiction. Published in 1905, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is the most notorious and widely distributed antisemitic publication of modern times.

The Protocols is the bible of anti-Semitics and haters of Jews. Even Hitler adapted elements of the Protocols into his anti-Jew policies and rhetoric.

Herzl Zionism began as an idea in 1870 and in 1897, Theodor Herzl established the Nationalist Zionist movement,
the history of which is well documented and far too deep to do it justice here. Essentially, due to the pogroms in Russia and growing anti-Semitism throughout Europe, Herzl committed himself to liberating Jews from this "new ghetto". After contemplating a number of schemes, such as socialist revolution and mass conversion to Christianity, Herzl landed on national self-determination. The Jews, he felt, should have their own country and there existed only one real option, to go back to their hereditary home.

Around 15 million Jews are scattered around the world, half of them are Israelis. Most of the remainder are in the US.

This brings us to some questions.

Out of 15 million, how many Jews are Herzl Zionists? How many of them are Israelis?
If there are any of these Zionists in the US or elsewhere, why are they not in Israel defending the homeland?

Where are the Protocol Zionist ghosts? Apparently they reside in your mind and heart.
And nightmares.
Why are you afraid of ghosts?

You accuse others of bearing false witness,
yet you bear false witness against those who challenge your fictitious beliefs.
"That 'sweet, god-fearing lady' supports genocide." No, she does not.

The most despicable lie you continue to spew is that the Israelis are committing terrorism and genocide against the Palestinian people. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Since our conflict can in no way be resolved, we are at an impasse, a stalemate. You will continue to hate the Israelis and we will continue to support, even love, them.

So, I suggest you pack up your lies and swastikas and go find a ghostly choir to preach to.
Sieg Heil, ghost!

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Nov 8, 2023 17:29:58   #
whole2th
 
"First is an introduction to a full book about the Protocols by Estonian-born German National Socialist philosopher and leader Alfred Rosenberg. He explains that the elaborate attempts by Jews to suppress knowledge of and discredit the validity of the Protocols only confers more validity upon them, and discredits Protocols-denying Jews."

https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/09/the-protocols-urgent-mysteries/





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Nov 8, 2023 17:53:12   #
whole2th
 
This one is interesting and certainly doesn't avoid the J issue.

https://henrymakow.com/2023/11/edward-menez---jews-flee-sinki.html

"Just like the Covid-madness (lockdowns, masks, vaccines) where many Jewish commentators are asking for amnesty and forgiveness, the Jews are now asking for detachment from the Democratic Party.

No, there will be no forgiveness and forgetfulness from this quarter as to what the Covid scamdemic and the Democratic Party have heaped on this country, and this world. Both the Covid-scammers and the Democratic Party seem to want you to forget that they were entirely led by Jews."

"The Jews' Apologia: Our Tikkun Olam ("Healing") Didn't Work and Now we Need to Pretend to Be Republicans"



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Nov 8, 2023 18:00:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
whole2th wrote:
This one is interesting and certainly doesn't avoid the J issue.

https://henrymakow.com/2023/11/edward-menez---jews-flee-sinki.html

"Just like the Covid-madness (lockdowns, masks, vaccines) where many Jewish commentators are asking for amnesty and forgiveness, the Jews are now asking for detachment from the Democratic Party.

No, there will be no forgiveness and forgetfulness from this quarter as to what the Covid scamdemic and the Democratic Party have heaped on this country, and this world. Both the Covid-scammers and the Democratic Party seem to want you to forget that they were entirely led by Jews."

"The Jews' Apologia: Our Tikkun Olam ("Healing") Didn't Work and Now we Need to Pretend to Be Republicans"
This one is interesting and certainly doesn't avoi... (show quote)


What does their religion has to do with who they are???

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Nov 8, 2023 18:10:12   #
whole2th
 
proud republican wrote:
What does their religion has to do with who they are???


Better question is: What loyalty prevails when top government leaders hold dual US and Israeli citizenship?

Here's a lesson of history which provides some insights into animosity toward Jews.

https://Earthnewspaper.com/One-Hundred-Years-Ago-Today-by-Mark-R-Elsis



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Nov 8, 2023 20:16:44   #
BIRDMAN
 
whole2th wrote:
Better question is: What loyalty prevails when top government leaders hold dual US and Israeli citizenship?

Here's a lesson of history which provides some insights into animosity toward Jews.

https://Earthnewspaper.com/One-Hundred-Years-Ago-Today-by-Mark-R-Elsis


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Nov 8, 2023 20:20:23   #
whole2th
 
Leadership of present-day Israel must be brought before the Hague on war crimes.

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Nov 8, 2023 20:24:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
whole2th wrote:
Leadership of present-day Israel must be brought before the Hague on war crimes.


And Hamas should be annihilate, destroyed.. Do you agree??

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Nov 9, 2023 06:24:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
Leadership of present-day Israel must be brought before the Hague on war crimes.
Here's some leadership from Israel.

Michal Cotler-Wunsh is Israel's special envoy to the UN on fighting counterterrorism.
She knows what you are all about.

Chew on this:
This is her powerful speech at the UN about the ever-mutating virus of anti-Semitism.

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Nov 9, 2023 21:36:57   #
whole2th
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Here's some leadership from Israel.

Michal Cotler-Wunsh is Israel's special envoy to the UN on fighting counterterrorism.
She knows what you are all about.

Chew on this:
This is her powerful speech at the UN about the ever-mutating virus of anti-Semitism.


Masterful inversion of reality on display in her choreographed presentation of "some pigs are more equal than others'. George Orwell knew where the stinking thinking was taking the human journey.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2023/11/07/will-the-gaza-war-threaten-jewish-power-in-the-u-s-and-their-status-as-occupying-the-moral-high-ground/

Jewish Power in the U.S. is on full display.

NEVER FORGET that the IDF is the "most moral army". https://youtu.be/oQDLAoPs-as

"But the horror of Israeli behavior in this war combined with the incessant clamoring by Jews that opposition to or even criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism is bound to produce cognitive dissonance among many American liberals (and perhaps even some conservatives) as they become aware of the decades-long brutality of the Israelis toward the Palestinians. The increasingly hopeless moral position of Israel at a time when the West is deluged with messages about the evils of ethnic hatred is a huge problem. Apart from Christian conservatives who think that the Second Coming depends on Israel winning, it’s likely to be a major problem for American Jews."

"Jewish activists are forced to leave the story at the level of the October 7 attack on Israelis and completely remove the context—the decades-long oppression of the Palestinians, especially in Gaza as an open-air prison along with its blockade of everything except the bare necessities of life, is completely avoided."

BIRDMAN provides the stark contrast of analysis as follows:



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Nov 9, 2023 21:41:11   #
BIRDMAN
 
whole2th wrote:
Masterful inversion of reality on display in her choreographed presentation of "some pigs are more equal than others'.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2023/11/07/will-the-gaza-war-threaten-jewish-power-in-the-u-s-and-their-status-as-occupying-the-moral-high-ground/
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Jewish Power in the U.S. is on full display.

NEVER FORGET that the IDF is the "most moral army".

"But the horror of Israeli behavior in this war combined with the incessant clamoring by Jews that opposition to or even criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism is bound to produce cognitive dissonance among many American liberals (and perhaps even some conservatives) as they become aware of the decades-long brutality of the Israelis toward the Palestinians. The increasingly hopeless moral position of Israel at a time when the West is deluged with messages about the evils of ethnic hatred is a huge problem. Apart from Christian conservatives who think that the Second Coming depends on Israel winning, it’s likely to be a major problem for American Jews."

"Jewish activists are forced to leave the story at the level of the October 7 attack on Israelis and completely remove the context—the decades-long oppression of the Palestinians, especially in Gaza as an open-air prison along with its blockade of everything except the bare necessities of life, is completely avoided."
Masterful inversion of reality on display in her c... (show quote)



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Nov 9, 2023 22:10:29   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Here's some leadership from Israel.

Michal Cotler-Wunsh is Israel's special envoy to the UN on fighting counterterrorism.
She knows what you are all about.

Chew on this:
This is her powerful speech at the UN about the ever-mutating virus of anti-Semitism.


Kudos for trying but you can’t reason with a bigot so far gone he thinks the holocaust was a hoax

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Nov 9, 2023 22:19:38   #
whole2th
 
Rose42 wrote:
Kudos for trying but you can’t reason with a bigot so far gone he thinks the holocaust was a hoax


~Q
~W

DEFAMATION effort fails.

Rose42--take notes of my actual thoughts:

HOLOCAUST NARRATIVES (TM) are inaccurate history--like the 911 COMMISSION REPORT (TM) is a crafted bamboozle designed to justify these past two decades of beating up on Muslims.

There were work camps.

The numbers (6 million) don't wash. "gas chambers" were successfully disputed in court transcripts--no residues of cyanide found in mortar and brick of "showers/gas chambers" purported to have been used to gas millions.

Many individual reports of both events are fiction--sometimes admitted to be fiction.

It was discovering that the 911 narratives are big lies (controlled demolitions, CIA connections to the named hijackers, CIA connections to Tim Osman) COMBINED WITH Jewish-controlled fake news media complicity in the cover-up that led me to explore the veracity of the HOLOCAUST (TM) narratives. It is not difficult to research and discover what I've discovered about both 911 and HOLOCAUST (TM).

If either the HOLOCAUST (TM) and 911 (TM) narratives were absolutely provable beyond doubt, there would not be so many who question these narratives.

This topic evolves out of Israeli agenda which resembles what Jews accuse Hitler of doing.

Seems impossible for PR, Rose42 and PR to think outside their little box of beliefs to actually engage the conversation details.. They may feel safe to stew/boil in their own excrement.

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Nov 9, 2023 22:20:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
whole2th wrote:
Masterful inversion of reality on display in her choreographed presentation of "some pigs are more equal than others'. George Orwell knew where the stinking thinking was taking the human journey.

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2023/11/07/will-the-gaza-war-threaten-jewish-power-in-the-u-s-and-their-status-as-occupying-the-moral-high-ground/

Jewish Power in the U.S. is on full display.

NEVER FORGET that the IDF is the "most moral army". https://youtu.be/oQDLAoPs-as

"But the horror of Israeli behavior in this war combined with the incessant clamoring by Jews that opposition to or even criticism of Israel is anti-Semitism is bound to produce cognitive dissonance among many American liberals (and perhaps even some conservatives) as they become aware of the decades-long brutality of the Israelis toward the Palestinians. The increasingly hopeless moral position of Israel at a time when the West is deluged with messages about the evils of ethnic hatred is a huge problem. Apart from Christian conservatives who think that the Second Coming depends on Israel winning, it’s likely to be a major problem for American Jews."

"Jewish activists are forced to leave the story at the level of the October 7 attack on Israelis and completely remove the context—the decades-long oppression of the Palestinians, especially in Gaza as an open-air prison along with its blockade of everything except the bare necessities of life, is completely avoided."

BIRDMAN provides the stark contrast of analysis as follows:
Masterful inversion of reality on display in her c... (show quote)


You are an incredible loser/bigot!!!!...

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Nov 9, 2023 23:05:05   #
Rose42
 
whole2th wrote:
~Q
~W

DEFAMATION effort fails.

Rose42--take notes of my actual thoughts:

HOLOCAUST NARRATIVES (TM) are inaccurate history--like the 911 COMMISSION REPORT (TM) is a crafted bamboozle designed to justify these past two decades of beating up on Muslims.

There were work camps.

The numbers (6 million) don't wash. "gas chambers" were successfully disputed in court transcripts--no residues of cyanide found in mortar and brick of "showers/gas chambers" purported to have been used to gas millions.

Many individual reports of both events are fiction--sometimes admitted to be fiction.

It was discovering that the 911 narratives are big lies (controlled demolitions, CIA connections to the named hijackers, CIA connections to Tim Osman) COMBINED WITH Jewish-controlled fake news media complicity in the cover-up that led me to explore the veracity of the HOLOCAUST (TM) narratives. It is not difficult to research and discover what I've discovered about both 911 and HOLOCAUST (TM).

If either the HOLOCAUST (TM) and 911 (TM) narratives were absolutely provable beyond doubt, there would not be so many who question these narratives.

This topic evolves out of Israeli agenda which resembles what Jews accuse Hitler of doing.

Seems impossible for PR, Rose42 and PR to think outside their little box of beliefs to actually engage the conversation details.. They may feel safe to stew/boil in their own excrement.
~Q br ~W br br DEFAMATION effort fails. br br Ro... (show quote)


Not defamation but truth. Any time you are shown the truth about yourself you make predictably childish comments.

Like I said, you are too far gone and you’ve demonstrated it yet again. You speak with the same patterns as white supremacists and other bigots do and you have misused scripture just like they do

You’re not thinking ouside the box

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