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Sep 28, 2023 19:12:06   #
JoyV
 
IdahoLady wrote:
Not responding to anyone just my opinion. Why did the left love Trump until he ran for President? Because he ran as a Republican that is why. He was there best friend until then. You do know that Opra (sp) asked him years ago if he was going to run and he told her no. Not unless the country need me. We needed him and he ran. Then the left hates him.


The left and RINOs hate him because he threatened their gravy train.

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Sep 28, 2023 19:55:42   #
JoyV
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We have never had either here.
We do have socialist tendencies.
But these are agreed by the people.
For the people.
This is different than being forced to wait in line for toilet paper.
Consent of the governed throws communism out on its ass. As should unregulated capitalism .
Unregulated capitalism, also known as
Fascism .
Corporations telling the government what to do,
Also known as Fascism .
We are headed toward being a
Constitutional Authoritarian government.
Whereby , the government works to protect the rich and Corporate.
How far are we from that today ??????
We essentially have no Supreme Court .how did that happen ??????
Now caught red handed lying cheating and stealing .
They look you right in the eye and say
They’re Innocent !!!!!
Ha !
Highest court in the land , Now a cesspool used for marinating chief justices in money .
We have never had either here. br We do have socia... (show quote)


You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capitalism under fascist states is extremely regulated. Take Germany under the National Socialists. Businesses had to get permits to operate. They then had to purchase their supplies or equipment from who the government told them to. They had to produce what and how much the government told them. They were told who they could or couldn't hire. They could have any portion of their goods, equipment, or even buildings confiscated with no reason given. They were told who they could sell to. They had high taxes. But they were still officially the owners of their businesses. That is hardly unfettered capitalism.

Fascism is one form of socialism. The means of production is controlled by the government. In communism, another form of socialism. The means of production is owned by the government. In capitalism the means of production is privately owned. But you have left out mercantilism, often confused with capitalism. Under mercantilism, the government protects certain businesses at the expense of others and their employees. The time of the Baron Robbers was one of almost unfettered mercantilism. In recent times, a blatant example is government bailouts of favored companies while letting others sink. True capitalism would allow them to rise or fall by their own merit.

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Sep 28, 2023 19:56:26   #
American Vet
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We have never had either here.
We do have socialist tendencies.
But these are agreed by the people.
For the people.
This is different than being forced to wait in line for toilet paper.
Consent of the governed throws communism out on its ass. As should unregulated capitalism .
Unregulated capitalism, also known as
Fascism .
Corporations telling the government what to do,
Also known as Fascism .
We are headed toward being a
Constitutional Authoritarian government.
Whereby , the government works to protect the rich and Corporate.
How far are we from that today ??????
We essentially have no Supreme Court .how did that happen ??????
Now caught red handed lying cheating and stealing .
They look you right in the eye and say
They’re Innocent !!!!!
Ha !
Highest court in the land , Now a cesspool used for marinating chief justices in money .
We have never had either here. br We do have socia... (show quote)


Ignorant troll

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Sep 28, 2023 20:02:02   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capitalism under fascist states is extremely regulated. Take Germany under the National Socialists. Businesses had to get permits to operate. They then had to purchase their supplies or equipment from who the government told them to. They had to produce what and how much the government told them. They were told who they could or couldn't hire. They could have any portion of their goods, equipment, or even buildings confiscated with no reason given. They were told who they could sell to. They had high taxes. But they were still officially the owners of their businesses. That is hardly unfettered capitalism.

Fascism is one form of socialism. The means of production is controlled by the government. In communism, another form of socialism. The means of production is owned by the government. In capitalism the means of production is privately owned. But you have left out mercantilism, often confused with capitalism. Under mercantilism, the government protects certain businesses at the expense of others and their employees. The time of the Baron Robbers was one of almost unfettered mercantilism. In recent times, a blatant example is government bailouts of favored companies while letting others sink. True capitalism would allow them to rise or fall by their own merit.
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capital... (show quote)


That's too deep for Milosia to understand.
Someone has more money than her, so she hates them, and wants "her" share of the money.

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Sep 28, 2023 20:36:06   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
JoyV wrote:
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capitalism under fascist states is extremely regulated. Take Germany under the National Socialists. Businesses had to get permits to operate. They then had to purchase their supplies or equipment from who the government told them to. They had to produce what and how much the government told them. They were told who they could or couldn't hire. They could have any portion of their goods, equipment, or even buildings confiscated with no reason given. They were told who they could sell to. They had high taxes. But they were still officially the owners of their businesses. That is hardly unfettered capitalism.

Fascism is one form of socialism. The means of production is controlled by the government. In communism, another form of socialism. The means of production is owned by the government. In capitalism the means of production is privately owned. But you have left out mercantilism, often confused with capitalism. Under mercantilism, the government protects certain businesses at the expense of others and their employees. The time of the Baron Robbers was one of almost unfettered mercantilism. In recent times, a blatant example is government bailouts of favored companies while letting others sink. True capitalism would allow them to rise or fall by their own merit.
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capital... (show quote)


Now you have gone and confused things with actual facts and knowledge. Damn you.

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Sep 28, 2023 21:14:26   #
BIRDMAN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
We have never had either here.
We do have socialist tendencies.
But these are agreed by the people.
For the people.
This is different than being forced to wait in line for toilet paper.
Consent of the governed throws communism out on its ass. As should unregulated capitalism .
Unregulated capitalism, also known as
Fascism .
Corporations telling the government what to do,
Also known as Fascism .
We are headed toward being a
Constitutional Authoritarian government.
Whereby , the government works to protect the rich and Corporate.
How far are we from that today ??????
We essentially have no Supreme Court .how did that happen ??????
Now caught red handed lying cheating and stealing .
They look you right in the eye and say
They’re Innocent !!!!!
Ha !
Highest court in the land , Now a cesspool used for marinating chief justices in money .
We have never had either here. br We do have socia... (show quote)


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Sep 28, 2023 22:17:11   #
Hydro
 
Well said - anyone that thinks Socialism is so wonderful - take a hard look at Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea etc - their regimes started out with Socialism that quickly turned to dictatorships - communism is another name for it - for all that think this is the way to live - so be it - no one will stop you - pick one of these countries - pack your bags and move

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Sep 28, 2023 23:36:50   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Milosia2 wrote:
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Donald Trump is a menace to democracy. where the fuck is the media?
ladies and gentlemen of the press, you should be running around with your hair on fire
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if Donald Trump manages to worm his unpleasant way back into office, he has no plans to leave — ever. Trump will remain in power until the day he dies, and then his hand-picked successor will replace him.

this isn’t some paranoid left-wing fantasy.

right now, Republicans are working to make this happen — and they’re not even bothering to keep it a secret. they’re bragging about it. they’ve published their plan. it has a name: the 2025 Project.

their scheme is to purge the entire government rank and file and replace them with Trump loyalists. that’s right, everybody — from the highest levels of the federal government all the way down to your local dogcatcher. and they’re not waiting until 2025 — they’ve already started recruiting foot-soldiers.

once everything is in place, we’ll stop having stupid little things like elections, or freedom, or democracy.

read the whole thing. it will scare the living fuck out of you.

are you hearing anything about the 2025 Project from our corporate-controlled media? no, you are not.

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Ron Filipkowski has compiled a list of “27 insane things Trump said he will do in a second term.”

“insane” is an understatement. “totally batshit fucking nuts” is more like it. here’s a sampling:

10. Require that schools hold elections each year where principals will be elected by parents who will choose whoever they want to run the school each year. 6/30/23

11. Any person convicted of selling drugs will get the death penalty. 11/15/22

12. Pardon convicted J6 inmates convicted of seditious conspiracy and assaulting police officers, with an apology from the US government. 9/1/22

13. Have DOJ investigate Comcast, NBC and MSNBC for treason and remove them from the public airwaves. 9/24/23

the whole thing is a laundry list of half-baked ideas, blatant violations of our constitution, flagrant abuses of power, and authoritarian score-settling.

are you hearing about any of this from our corporate-controlled media? no, you are not.

Trump’s brain is rotting. he’s completely losing his grip on reality. at his hate-fests, he can barely construct a sentence. he loses his train of thought. he meanders. he stumbles over common words. and he confuses facts and events.

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here’s Trump yesterday, giving a speech in South Carolina.

“we came down here. you know, the beauty was when I came here. everyone thought Bush was going to win. and then they took a poll and found out Trump was up by about 50 points. everyone said, ‘what's going on right here?’ they thought Bush, because Bush supposedly was a military person. great. you know what he was? he got us into the... he got us into the Middle East. how did that work out, right? but they all thought that Bush might win. Jeb, remember Jeb?”

yes, indeed. remember that great military leader Jeb Bush, who led us to war in the Middle East? apparently, Trump does.

Trump can’t get through a sentence without fucking up.

last week, Trump made the bizarre claim that voter ID was required to buy a loaf of bread.

in another recent speech, Trump claimed that his 2016 opponent was Barack Obama, and then warned that Biden was leading us into “world war two.”

are you hearing about any of this from our corporate-controlled media?

say it with me: no, you are not.

I hate to sound like a broken record (what’s a “record,” grandpa?), but where the fuck is the media?

holy shit, ladies and gentlemen of the press, you should be running around with your hair on fire. Donald Trump is promising to shut you down and throw you in prison, and the Republican Party is working overtime to remove any constitutional barriers that would prevent him from doing so.

we’re six years into this bullshit, and you’re still treating Donald Trump like a conventional politician, and Republicans as if they were good-faith partners in democracy.

Exactly!!!!!!
Forwarded this email? Subscribe here for more br D... (show quote)


Yeah, I keep saying this, but it just blows my mind.

I can remember politics going all the way back to Carter and I have NEVER seen anything like this. I honestly do think social media plays a huge role and that might actually be the answer to your title question. Maybe the media is there but obscured by the growing popularity of the Internet.

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Sep 29, 2023 00:16:18   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Where are you living today ?
Are you being followed , videotaped, phones recorded
Awakened in the middle of the night for interrogation?
How ffing bad is this country
youre living in today ?
Seriously, how ffing bad is your life here ?


Still in Texas. And seriously, my life, here and today, is pretty darn good.
The economy sucks, and I am VERY worried about the authoritarian government people like you are trying to change America into, but other than that, life is good. My wife and I are 45 years in love, and get by well enough financially. My kids and grandkids are all relatively healthy and doing okay. Of course, I am a faithful Christian, and an eternal optimist, so I have much to look forward to, and I that helps me enjoy life.
Clearly, nothing will ever make you happy, and that is a shame.

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Sep 29, 2023 00:23:14   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Still in Texas. And seriously, my life, here and today, is pretty darn good.
The economy sucks, and I am VERY worried about the authoritarian government people like you are trying to change America into, but other than that, life is good. My wife and I are 45 years in love, and get by well enough financially. My kids and grandkids are all relatively healthy and doing okay. Of course, I am a faithful Christian, and an eternal optimist, so I have much to look forward to, and I that helps me enjoy life.
Clearly, nothing will ever make you happy, and that is a shame.
Still in Texas. And seriously, my life, here and ... (show quote)



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Sep 29, 2023 00:24:52   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
The left and RINOs hate him because he threatened their gravy train.


I often wonder if the Democrat leadership really DOES "hate" him. Or was their vicious attacks simply based on his threat to their corrupt activities, the gravy train the establishment Democrats and rino's have built, and to the plan for a President Clinton continuing the fundamental transformation of America started by Obama?
A fundamental change, by the way, that IMHO was conceived, intended, and planned to make the Democrats the sole political superparty, and solidly codify the politicians into an American oligarchy.

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Sep 29, 2023 00:26:44   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capitalism under fascist states is extremely regulated. Take Germany under the National Socialists. Businesses had to get permits to operate. They then had to purchase their supplies or equipment from who the government told them to. They had to produce what and how much the government told them. They were told who they could or couldn't hire. They could have any portion of their goods, equipment, or even buildings confiscated with no reason given. They were told who they could sell to. They had high taxes. But they were still officially the owners of their businesses. That is hardly unfettered capitalism.

Fascism is one form of socialism. The means of production is controlled by the government. In communism, another form of socialism. The means of production is owned by the government. In capitalism the means of production is privately owned. But you have left out mercantilism, often confused with capitalism. Under mercantilism, the government protects certain businesses at the expense of others and their employees. The time of the Baron Robbers was one of almost unfettered mercantilism. In recent times, a blatant example is government bailouts of favored companies while letting others sink. True capitalism would allow them to rise or fall by their own merit.
You say unregulated capitalism is fascism. Capital... (show quote)



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Sep 29, 2023 00:28:55   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
archie bunker wrote:
That's too deep for Milosia to understand.
Someone has more money than her, so she hates them, and wants "her" share of the money.


And THAT, Archie, exactly defines Milosia's problem. She will hate and hate and hate until she dies.
Her only hope is the Carpenter King that she refuses to believe in.

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Sep 29, 2023 00:29:34   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪


LOL !!!

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Sep 29, 2023 00:39:05   #
Hydro
 
RandyBrian wrote:
LOL !!!


Very well put congrats on 45 years of marriage -

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