RandyBrian wrote:
So the left believes. Win at any cost, including our own morality. The end justifies the means. Do as i say, not as I do. It's not my fault I'm cheating....you started it.
And a hundred other justifications for choosing the wrong methods.
Please do not include me in such plans.
If there is no moral difference between the Democrats and Republicans, then I won't bother voting.
How can we expect to vote for liars and cheaters and then expect them do act differently when elected?
Personally, I would rather take up arms to end election fraud rather than choose for our side to just be BETTER at election fraud. If it is even possible to be better at cheating than the Democrats.
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I'm siding with you on this one randy
RandyBrian wrote:
So the left believes. Win at any cost, including our own morality. The end justifies the means. Do as i say, not as I do. It's not my fault I'm cheating....you started it.
And a hundred other justifications for choosing the wrong methods.
Please do not include me in such plans.
If there is no moral difference between the Democrats and Republicans, then I won't bother voting.
How can we expect to vote for liars and cheaters and then expect them do act differently when elected?
Personally, I would rather take up arms to end election fraud rather than choose for our side to just be BETTER at election fraud. If it is even possible to be better at cheating than the Democrats.
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We must get better at winning, and parading virtue only gets a concession speech. Policy speeches send everyone to their phones so they don't fall asleep.
Biden won by getting more ballots, not votes, and they'll do it again, only this time better.
Win at any cost, and then establish virtue when needed.
Strycker
Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
guzzimaestro wrote:
You are right, which makes it harder for us. Democrats have no rules, morals or ethics.
The good road is often the harder road. I often ask what the democrats guidebook is? What their basic tenets are? Where can i go to read them? I never get an answer. I suppose it's because the answer is "fluid" to the situation.
proud republican wrote:
I can name a few:
Border
Economy
Crime
Immigration
Inflation
Afganistan withdrawal
Il leave it here.. Although I'm sure there are bunch more.. Can you guys think of any?
I see there are about 200 comments on this thread!
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Morality is established after the war is won. Maintaining morality against an immoral enemy loses the war. As victors, tell the defeated what morality is, and enforce it. Then feel proud.
Morality is what an individual chooses to do or not to do. How history is written is irrelevant to the morality of the action or inaction.
Hypothetical example:
A psychic meets Hitler as a child, sees his future, and kills him before he can become a German dictator, saving millions of lives. The lives saved is good, but it does not change or justify the fact that the psychic murdered a child.
If the extremely rare case happens, and circumstances force a person into doing something immoral for the greater good, then that person should accept the consequences for his crime, recognizing that it IS a crime, and knowing the end does NOT justify the means....not from a moral perspective.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
We must get better at winning, and parading virtue only gets a concession speech. Policy speeches send everyone to their phones so they don't fall asleep.
Biden won by getting more ballots, not votes, and they'll do it again, only this time better.
Win at any cost, and then establish virtue when needed.
Sorry, Mikey. You are a good person, and I agree with you much of the time.
But I neither agree with your statement, nor with your proposed method of winning.
I think you are wrong. We do not have to become like the Democrats in order to win. We need to counter them to defeat them.....not emulate them.
Honest truthful men are so very rare in politics because almost all of them are originally lawyers who, by training (and I think inclination) DO believe that the end justifies the means.
Honest and truthful men with common sense rarely enter politics. Ronald Reagan was such a man, and is one of the exceptions that prove my point.
I am not saying that a lawyer can not be a good, honest, truthful man......but ones that become politicians are rare. I think DeSantis may be one.
Trump was a business man in 2016. Unfair, unjust, and unethical events, circumstances, and attacks by the left changed him, and he is now a politician.
We need a Ronald Reagan, or the nearest we can find to him.
RandyBrian wrote:
Morality is what an individual chooses to do or not to do. How history is written is irrelevant to the morality of the action or inaction.
Hypothetical example:
A psychic meets Hitler as a child, sees his future, and kills him before he can become a German dictator, saving millions of lives. The lives saved is good, but it does not change or justify the fact that the psychic murdered a child.
If the extremely rare case happens, and circumstances force a person into doing something immoral for the greater good, then that person should accept the consequences for his crime, recognizing that it IS a crime, and knowing the end does NOT justify the means....not from a moral perspective.
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From a strictly moral perspective, you are right. But for me, and/or the Republican party, to prevent the collapse of the United States under another kommiecrat win by cheating, we must, to ensure morality in the future, get down in the mud with these creatures and win. We have been kicked in the balls, recover, practice kicking, and give them a kick in the balls so hard that they stay down long enough for us to establish the morality that is so important for the leading country of the world.
I ain't one to roll around on the ground nursing my balls and crying foul.
I'm practicing my swift kicks.
RandyBrian wrote:
Sorry, Mikey. You are a good person, and I agree with you much of the time.
But I neither agree with your statement, nor with your proposed method of winning.
I think you are wrong. We do not have to become like the Democrats in order to win. We need to counter them to defeat them.....not emulate them.
Honest truthful men are so very rare in politics because almost all of them are originally lawyers who, by training (and I think inclination) DO believe that the end justifies the means.
Honest and truthful men with common sense rarely enter politics. Ronald Reagan was such a man, and is one of the exceptions that prove my point.
I am not saying that a lawyer can not be a good, honest, truthful man......but ones that become politicians are rare. I think DeSantis may be one.
Trump was a business man in 2016. Unfair, unjust, and unethical events, circumstances, and attacks by the left changed him, and he is now a politician.
We need a Ronald Reagan, or the nearest we can find to him.
Sorry, Mikey. You are a good person, and I agree ... (
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Trump is the only man who can do it, with warts and all that I don't see.
The only other candidate with Trump tough potential is Vivek Ramaswamy. All the rest, including Desantis, can be quickly molded into a Romney led on a leash by the left.
America has been infiltrated at the highest levels by the international left. They will stop at nothing to hold on to their power. We need Trump. The only person with the courage to prosecute the entire body of leftists in Washington DC.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump is the only man who can do it, with warts and all that I don't see.
The only other candidate with Trump tough potential is Vivek Ramaswamy. All the rest, including Desantis, can be quickly molded into a Romney led on a leash by the left.
America has been infiltrated at the highest levels by the international left. They will stop at nothing to hold on to their power. We need Trump. The only person with the courage to prosecute the entire body of leftists in Washington DC.
Trump is the man to get the job done.
Take power from the corrupt Left.
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Trump is the only man who can do it, with warts and all that I don't see.
The only other candidate with Trump tough potential is Vivek Ramaswamy. All the rest, including Desantis, can be quickly molded into a Romney led on a leash by the left.
America has been infiltrated at the highest levels by the international left. They will stop at nothing to hold on to their power. We need Trump. The only person with the courage to prosecute the entire body of leftists in Washington DC.
At the end of my day, all that's left is my personal integrity.
Conservatives have plenty of room for improving election results without compromising morality.
1) Solid platform packaged and marketed systematically well
2) Get through the primaries without engaging in personal destruction of opponents.
3) Honoring the concept that we will be significantly better off with any of the current contenders.
4) Attack the democrats with facts at every opportunity
5) Put some money behind our mouths
6) Focus on Economic / Border / Crime issues while avoid abortion / gun control / climate (Reason vs emotion)
WinkyTink wrote:
At the end of my day, all that's left is my personal integrity.
Conservatives have plenty of room for improving election results without compromising morality.
1) Solid platform packaged and marketed systematically well
2) Get through the primaries without engaging in personal destruction of opponents.
3) Honoring the concept that we will be significantly better off with any of the current contenders.
4) Attack the democrats with facts at every opportunity
5) Put some money behind our mouths
6) Focus on Economic / Border / Crime issues while avoid abortion / gun control / climate (Reason vs emotion)
At the end of my day, all that's left is my person... (
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Overcome the Liberal black out of conservative commentary by the liberal "Main Stream Media".
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