permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You are right on the money, Rascal....

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Good evening Son... why??? As the money was dealt out, technically as an investment to Jared brand new company..
The act was not a crime... Unethical, yes, suspect yes,, But by the laws of our land, it slipped past as a legal investment. and we democrats do abide by the law even as it is overtaxed and made a joke of..

Old news now anyway, but I do like this article by Mother ea.... Jones.



https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/04/why-the-hell-isnt-jared-kushners-2-billion-saudi-payment-a-big-scandal/


On April 10, the New York Times revealed that Jared Kushner, son-in-law and adviser of the 45th president, secured a $2 billion investment for his new private equity firm, Affinity Partners, from a fund controlled by the Saudi crown prince—even after advisers to the Saudi fund raised serious objections to the investment. The screening panel for the Saudi fund had cited “the inexperience of the Affinity Fund management”; an “unsatisfactory in all aspects” due diligence report; a proposed asset management fee that seemed “excessive”; and “public relations risks.” Yet the panel was overruled by the fund’s board, which is headed by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Saudi Arabia’s autocratic de facto leader, who, according to US intelligence, green-lit the operation that resulted in the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

It’s damn hard to not see the $2 billion investment as either a payoff for past services rendered or a preemptive bribe should Trump manage to regain the White House. And it could be both. It’s a wonder that the disclosure of this deal hasn’t created more of a fuss and prompted congressional investigations. (Imagine what Republicans and Fox News would be doing if Hunter Biden received $2 billion from a Ukrainian government leader who was responsible for the gruesome murder of an American resident.) A 10-figure payment to a relative of a former president who is essentially the current (though undeclared) GOP frontrunner in the 2024 contest and possibly the next inhabitant of the White House is a major scandal.

Or it should be.

Mohammed bin Salman—often referred to as MBS—does owe Kushner a big thank-you. As the Times notes, “Kushner played a leading role inside the Trump administration defending Crown Prince Mohammed after US intelligence agencies concluded that he had approved the 2018 killing and dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi.” And this investment seems unduly immense—not just because of the concerns raised by the screeners. The amount is twice as much and the terms of this deal are more generous than the investment the same Saudi fund made with the more experienced former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin. Moreover, the MBS-approved investment comprises the bulk of the money Kushner has collected for Affinity Partners. He had been looking to round up $7 billion, but apparently few moneybags out there share the Saudis’ confidence in Ivanka Trump’s husband. Affinity Partners’ most recent filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission shows that it has raised only $500 million beyond the cash from MBS’s $620 billion fund, which maintains investments in Uber and the Newcastle United Football Club in Britain.

federally indicted mattoid

Sounds like a real winner.

I wish he had the cell that zilla described.

federally indicted mattoid

Serves him right!

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander, as they say.

federally indicted mattoid

You mean like Clarence and Samuel?

JoyV

Paying for a room at the same rate as everyone else, is not an emolument. If the foreign dignitaries were paying hundreds of times the room rent, it would be a problem. There was no gift. They stayed at a hotel or resort and payed the normal amount. If they stayed at someone else's hotel or resort they would pay for it just the same.

Just as while Obama was president he got money from foreign dignitaries buying a book he wrote, is not an emolument.

JoyV

What plays out in court depends on exactly what the charges say and what evidence the judge allows. In many of the court cases so far judges have not held evidentiary hearings for Trump's cases so no evidence could be presented by his legal team. But if the prosecution opens the door in their charges, then Trump's team can present evidence.

But criminal trials do not interpret the constitution. They deal with whether a person is guilty of the crime charged. The judge in a criminal trial has no power to change our constitution. Even the Supreme Court cannot change our constitution. They can only determine whether something is or is not constitutional. Criminal trials are not heard in the Supreme Court.

JoyV

So what crime or crimes? Contesting an election is the right of all Americans. The law, and our rights, apply to all.

JoyV

Have you never heard the saying that you can indict a ham sandwich? Only the prosecution has a say in a grand jury. Being indicated means the grand jury thinks it should go to trial. It is a far cry from proving the defendant is guilty.

JoyV

If there is so much evidence, maybe you can present some to us.

JoyV

They paid the normal rent. But if they had stayed for free, that would be the opposite of an emolument. So which is it?

JoyV

The J6 people went to prison for the Constitution of the United States. For assertively, and in some cases aggressively demanding our representatives abide by their oath of office to abide by the constitution. Trump was only a peripheral part.

JoyV

No it isn't the law that anyone proven to commit a felony goes to prison. First you have to have a prosecutor to prosecute the case. Otherwise they never see a courtroom let alone prison. Comey gave a laundry list of serious crimes Hillary committed. He ended with no prosecutor would go after her. She also admitted to destroying subpoenaed evidence, but the FBI had given her and her team a free pass.

Biden even bragged on camera of stopping the money our legislation approved for Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating the company his son was involved with. But no one wanted to prosecute him.

https://www.wsj.com/video/opinion-joe-biden-forced-ukraine-to-fire-prosecutor-for-aid-money/C1C51BB8-3988-4070-869F-CAD3CA0E81D8.html

Bidentrump

You are correct except the ham sandwich doesnt steal classified docs, it doesn't incite an insurrection, it doesn't cheat on taxes, it doesn't rape anybody, and it doesn't try to corrupt people to lie about the election.

So, yea, that's the BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
AND yes, The prosecution MUST prove their case to win the indictments.

But I don't think they have to worry about providing much evidence, and there are PLENTY!!! BECAUSE TRUMP always admits to his CRIMES!!!
So, I don't think that it will be too far of a cry!!!

Trump will prosecute himself without much help from the prosecutors. His MOUTH is the EVIDENCE!!! ALWAYS!!! + 91 CHARGERS!!! EVEN 2 guilty of 91 charges!!! Like Bill Barr said, He's toast!!!

So I think his fans and LOVERS will be CRYING the most. Boohoooo...Hehehe....

I feel bad for him though, cause he's too old to be in the BIG House!

Bidentrump

Oh well.... I suggest u guys find a new candidate. I may even vote for the new guy. He may succeed in pushing DOJ to arrest Hillary and Biden. They may get persuaded easier by the new Republican President.
Just NOT Trump because he couldn't do it when he was President.