Parky60
Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
kemmer wrote:
Congrats for having all those alternatives. Not everyone does. As we’ve seen in the last election, not everyone views abortion as murder.
It doesn't matter what you and everybody else views it as... IT IS!
kemmer wrote:
Congrats for having all those alternatives. Not everyone does. As we’ve seen in the last election, not everyone views abortion as murder.
So who doesn't have those alternatives? If you are referring to rape victims, those are almost always excluded from abortion restrictions. Especially in the first trimester. If someone gets pregnant by rape and doesn't want to carry the rapists child, I would think they would know so before the pregnancy is late term. But most states allow even late term abortions for rape victims.
Kevyn wrote:
Americans across the nation were promised relief of ten to twenty thousand dollars of student loan forgiveness. Trumps kangaroo court took this away. Guess how this will effect votes in the 24 election! The same way the overturning of Row effected the 22 elections and will in 24! Stacking the court may end up being a gift republicans handed Democrats.
Kangaroo Court. The decision was based on the law. President Biden did not have legal authority to forgive student loans. Also this was a blatant attempt to use the US Treasury to buy votes.
kemmer wrote:
Congrats for having all those alternatives. Not everyone does. As we’ve seen in the last election, not everyone views abortion as murder.
Yes, everyone does have those options. And if not all, at least one. What a crock. Facts are facts. Take a life if it's not self defense, it's murder..
son of witless wrote:
Kangaroo Court. The decision was based on the law. President Biden did not have legal authority to forgive student loans. Also this was a blatant attempt to use the US Treasury to buy votes.
That's right and anyone with brain knows it!
JoyV wrote:
So who doesn't have those alternatives? If you are referring to rape victims, those are almost always excluded from abortion restrictions. Especially in the first trimester. If someone gets pregnant by rape and doesn't want to carry the rapists child, I would think they would know so before the pregnancy is late term. But most states allow even late term abortions for rape victims.
Nope. You are incorrect.
Fifteen of the 22 states with new or forthcoming limits on abortion after Roe do not permit exceptions for rape and incest. Read that again - no exceptions.
EmilyD wrote:
What about all the people who have paid back their loans? Are they going to be reimbursed? I paid off my student loans after years of deducting it from my paycheck every month. And it was a significant amount of money....it would be great right now if I could be reimbursed for that - I sure could use it in this economic climate!!
What about all the people who did not go to college because they couldn't afford it? Will they get a "freebie" now????
Doubt it.
And guess who was going to be responsible for paying the $430 Billion for it???
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it is always about who is going to pay and who is getting a freebie and who is making it all about getting votes . Heaven forbid we do anything that helps our citizens .
JoyV wrote:
So if Biden had gotten his way, instead of the person voluntarily taking out the loan having to pay it back, taxpayers would involuntarily have to pay for those loans. While some people are too stupid or too locked into the progressive ideology to care, most taxpayers don't want to pay taxes which are so blatantly unfair. Why should I pay for someone else's college loan they asked for and agreed to pay back.
Another effect will be the colleges will have an incentive to raise tuition far higher than the exorbitant amount it already is. Why not? The "government " will pay for it.
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Government spending is now over $6 trillion per year, almost half of that goes to paying for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. $1.4 trillion goes to discretionary spending, such as all government agencies with the military the largest recipient. Interest payments on the national debt are close to $400 billion. Deficit spending is out of control. Unfunded Liabilities are approaching $200 TRILLION. Currently, every citizen (not just taxpayers) is liable for $572,000.
Under the circumstances, it appears to me if taxpayers were burdened with the student loan debt,
we wouldn't even feel it.
Moreover, given the quality of education (or lack thereof) offered by American universities,
they should raise tuition to $1 million per year.
This would dissuade a lot of people from submitting to leftist indoctrination.
dwp66 wrote:
Nope. You are incorrect.
Fifteen of the 22 states with new or forthcoming limits on abortion after Roe do not permit exceptions for rape and incest. Read that again - no exceptions.
List the states. I've seen lists saying so, but when reading the actual abortion laws find that it just isn't so. My state of AZ is listed on pro-abortion sites as having a total ban after 15 weeks. But that is not true.
Roe v Wade gave doctors of pregnant women the right to perform or prescribe abortions without cause within the first trimester. It did not give pregnant women the right to choose to get an abortion. And even her doctor only had that right in the first trimester.
The majority of current state abortion laws are far more lenient than Roe v Wade.
Blade_Runner wrote:
Government spending is now over $6 trillion per year, almost half of that goes to paying for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. $1.4 trillion goes to discretionary spending, such as all government agencies with the military the largest recipient. Interest payments on the national debt are close to $400 billion. Deficit spending is out of control. Unfunded Liabilities are approaching $200 TRILLION. Currently, every citizen (not just taxpayers) is liable for $572,000.
Under the circumstances, it appears to me if taxpayers were burdened with the student loan debt,
we wouldn't even feel it.
Moreover, given the quality of education (or lack thereof) offered by American universities,
they should raise tuition to $1 million per year.
This would dissuade a lot of people from submitting to leftist indoctrination.
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The social security figure does not include the money coming in from workers. It is disingenuous. If social security was left in its own interest bearing account, as it is supposed to be, there would be a surplus each year. It was due to these surpluses that greedy politicians made the changes.
But I totally agree with your last paragraph!
microphor wrote:
Hey, who do you think you are? I'm a Republican, a woman and as such, have reproductive rights. Murder isn't part of any of those!!!!!! I have the right to use birth control pills, get an IUD, get a tubal ligation, insist on condoms or not have sex at all. Those are all reproductive rights, notice nobody had to die because of them???
What about 14 year old rape victims?
microphor wrote:
Hey, who do you think you are? I'm a Republican, a woman and as such, have reproductive rights. Murder isn't part of any of those!!!!!! I have the right to use birth control pills, get an IUD, get a tubal ligation, insist on condoms or not have sex at all. Those are all reproductive rights, notice nobody had to die because of them???
federally indicted mattoid wrote:
What about 14 year old rape victims?
Is there something you wanna say about 14 year old rape victims?
Why just 14 year olds?
Blade_Runner wrote:
Is there something you wanna say about 14 year old rape victims?
Why just 14 year olds?
OK, 10-17 year old rape victims. Better?
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