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Jun 19, 2023 17:43:56   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
permafrost wrote:
OK


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Tower_Moscow#:~:text=Trump%20wrote%20that%20he%20had,although%20the%20plan%20ultimately%20fell


Donald Trump is reported as having first envisaged a Trump building in Moscow during a visit to Moscow in 1987,[6] which he also mentioned in his own 1987 book The Art of the Deal.[7][8] Trump wrote that he had talked with Yuri Dubinin about "building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government."[7][8] The development was originally envisaged as a joint venture with the Soviet Union's tourism agency, Goscom Intourist, although the plan ultimately fell through.[9][7] Following the break-up of the Soviet Union, Trump's interest in a Moscow tower continued. In 2005, the Trump Organization signed a one-year contract for a construction project in Moscow with the Bayrock Group real estate firm. One of the firm's principals was Felix Sater, a Russian-born businessman with mob connections.[10] Sater identified a site for a Trump skyscraper. It was stipulated any spas or fitness areas be branded "The Spa by Ivanka Trump."[11]
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>>>> Donald Trump is reported as having first envisaged a Trump building in Moscow !<<<<

Ya know permie reports float around and are a dime a dozen all the time are they true or not neither YOU NOR I know for sure but it seems YOU will latch on to all of them if it includes anything bad about Trump

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Jun 19, 2023 17:59:31   #
Mikeyavelli
 
4430 wrote:
With all due respect permie all you know about farming and farmers is what you read from questable sources .

permie this is my 60th planted crop I've put in the ground since I started farming and I'm on two farm forums that have over 500 farmer members give or take all over the US and when Trump started making trade with China and the markets tanked Not One of them complained you want to know why ?

They saw the need for China to play fair and none of them went belly as you claim 1000's did .

Farm markets rise and falls it's just the climate we operate in it happens all the time !

All the members on our forums said the subsidies Trump paid out they could do without as well as I could they all saw the need to have FAIR Trading with all countries .

So what if Trump hadn't paid out the subsidies to the farmer YOU permie would have been out front screaming that 1000 up on 1000's of farmers were put out of business it was all because of Trump .

Quite frankly permie you hatred of Trump and blaming all our problems as his fault is getting quite boring .

There always have been farmers going out of business every year always have been and always will be .

ONE more question DID YOU Blame Jimmy Carter for farmers losing money when He embargoed our grain to Russia in 1980 when the markets went down the limit for a week straight and the result of 20% interest rates took a lot of farmers down and almost took me down as well .
With all due respect permie all you know about far... (show quote)


I'm a city boy, but I enjoyed your post. I only see farms out the window going 72 mph.
Your work tastes good though.

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Jun 19, 2023 18:48:43   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
I'm a city boy, but I enjoyed your post. I only see farms out the window going 72 mph.
Your work tastes good though.


Thanks

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Jun 19, 2023 18:55:39   #
Justice101
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
3 mansions? Nah, Obama made his billions selling 3 books. At 3% profit off a 20 dollar book, The Great Brockobamma would have to have sold at least 600 billion books. He's a really good writer though.


Damm, he must be a GREAT author and a legend in his own mind!

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Jun 19, 2023 20:08:57   #
Weswill
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee, Archie,, without much more detailed info no one can answer what you question... only with the actual amount in figures could the electricity used be compared to any other use.. yours and mfg.. as well you know the energy used at any mfg plant , even small ones will far exceed the amount used in any of our homes.

also the parts of the wind generators which are difficult if not impossible to recycle now, will be recyclably in due course, Mfg improvements will be made and over all consumption will be more in line with the amount generated..

Just for your info.. In the great state of Minnesota we have a problem.. In the wind filled south western part of the state we voted to express the development of wind energy.. a great success, wind machines all over the place, problem.. This sparsely populated area of farming, does not have the electric grid to move energy to the urban zones which are crying for more and green energy. so now we have very nearly one half of the generators sitting doing nothing.. because we can not move the product.. a supply chain issue if ever we had one.. so now we upgrade the grid and then the waiting customers will finally have access to the energy we have been holding..

So much to smooth the wrinkles out of , but it is the coming situation.. and is what we will have in the near future..

No system has ever been made which did not have it own share of problems to overcome.. and energy is no different.. but it is being done..
Gee, Archie,, without much more detailed info no o... (show quote)


I wonder if anyone has looked at how much of our farm land and forests are being destroyed by all these wind farms and solar panels?? I don't think we have enough land to support enough wind farms and solar panels to ever replace all of our energy needs, unless our population is reduced in half and we reduce our amount of energy we need in half as well. I believe all this hoopla about green energy is hopeless because no matter what we do it will only be a very small reduction in carbon dioxide gasses in the world's atmosphere because we will be the only ones doing anything.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation.

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Jun 19, 2023 20:11:33   #
BIRDMAN
 
Weswill wrote:
I wonder if anyone has looked at how much of our farm land and forests are being destroyed by all these wind farms and solar panels?? I don't think we have enough land to support enough wind farms and solar panels to ever replace all of our energy needs, unless our population is reduced in half and we reduce our amount of energy we need in half as well. I believe all this hoopla about green energy is hopeless because no matter what we do it will only be a very small reduction in carbon dioxide gasses in the world's atmosphere because we will be the only ones doing anything.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation.
I wonder if anyone has looked at how much of our f... (show quote)


The green new deal is all a scam

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Jun 19, 2023 20:30:18   #
Weswill
 
permafrost wrote:
Hi Bernie, have not seen your post for a while,, Nice you do so..

Not consider all factors?? It is not as if no one is addressing the problems.. every advance has problems with it..

If Parkys detailed post is correct, we seem determined to go over one cliff or the other no matter what we do..


Yea but one cliff will cost us trillions of dollars and other other one we already have. So why not just keep what we have?

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Jun 19, 2023 21:14:46   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
permafrost wrote:
You have to kill your own whale to use an oil lamp, the capitalist's stopped selling that a long time ago.. now it is all DIY...


They are at SeaWorld, aren't they? Should be easy.



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Jun 19, 2023 21:15:50   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
archie bunker wrote:
Hog fat, or fat leftist fat works fine. The hog fat just smells better. That's the only difference.



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Jun 20, 2023 03:18:17   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
permafrost wrote:
water from the sky... that is nearly unknown this summer in this neck of the woods.. and no whales.. wonder how pine sap would work?


Get a frequency generator. Salt water burns at a certain frequency. I guess the vibration separates out the hydrogen. But do you really need an oil lamp? Candle making seems so much easier. And the flashlight on my Obama phone works great as long as I don't have to drive by it..

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Jun 20, 2023 06:36:12   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
permafrost wrote:
No , he did not, While trump would have had his minions solicitating kickbacks and a new hotel as well, President Obama worked for the interest of the United states and the people.. he did not cohabite with the mafia of the right wing..


How do you know what Obama did? His whole stated goal was to fundamentally change(destroy) America and he did his best.Trump made no money during his time in office unlike Obama and Obiden. Obama entered office relatively poor, not a millionaire, and left office a multi millionaire. Who actually bought his books? I don't know anyone who did, and I am related to some leftist Democrats. Sounds like a way to pay him off without drawing attention. Remember, Obummer bought a 24 million dollar estate on Martha's Vineyard, on the water. Climate Change is real but not man-made. Carbon credits are a bullshit scam to get people to pay a tax to save the planet. People who think that throwing money at Climate Change will stop it are the same people who think they can stop the tide washing up onshore be shoveling sand at it. BTW, the wind and solar power generation being built will probably be enough to keep everyone alive in power because the goal of the WEF and the UN is to reduce the world population by 90% and the population of the USA reduced by around 250 million to around 70 million. Wind and solar should be able to handle that amount of people and still provide the Paracitic Super Rich with enough slaves to take care of them.



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Jun 20, 2023 06:43:23   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
How do you know what Obama did? His whole stated goal was to fundamentally change(destroy) America and he did his best.Trump made no money during his time in office unlike Obama and Obiden. Obama entered office relatively poor, not a millionaire, and left office a multi millionaire. Who actually bought his books? I don't know anyone who did, and I am related to some leftist Democrats. Sounds like a way to pay him off without drawing attention. Remember, Obummer bought a 24 million dollar estate on Martha's Vineyard, on the water. Climate Change is real but not man-made. Carbon credits are a bullshit scam to get people to pay a tax to save the planet. People who think that throwing money at Climate Change will stop it are the same people who think they can stop the tide washing up onshore be shoveling sand at it. BTW, the wind and solar power generation being built will probably be enough to keep everyone alive in power because the goal of the WEF and the UN is to reduce the world population by 90% and the population of the USA reduced by around 250 million to around 70 million. Wind and solar should be able to handle that amount of people and still provide the Paracitic Super Rich with enough slaves to take care of them.
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Didn't you know permie and the rest of the left here knows everything about everybody on the Right they know what they think they know all the actions they know all the bad things everyone has done they know all about the finical matters that is except if their it's about someone on the lefyy then it's silence .

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Jun 20, 2023 06:44:32   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
JR-57 wrote:
permafrost - Often wrong, but never in doubt. This guy is full of lies and excuses. I’m afraid he actually believes his own spin. He’s got frost on the brain that’s never gonna thaw. permafrost is a very appropriate name.


I'd say he has brain freeze, but he would need a brain for that to happen.

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Jun 20, 2023 07:16:36   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Weswill wrote:
I wonder if anyone has looked at how much of our farm land and forests are being destroyed by all these wind farms and solar panels?? I don't think we have enough land to support enough wind farms and solar panels to ever replace all of our energy needs, unless our population is reduced in half and we reduce our amount of energy we need in half as well. I believe all this hoopla about green energy is hopeless because no matter what we do it will only be a very small reduction in carbon dioxide gasses in the world's atmosphere because we will be the only ones doing anything.
Sorry but it is a lose lose situation.
I wonder if anyone has looked at how much of our f... (show quote)


If we don't have carbon dioxide, we won't have oxygen. Plants use CO2 to make O2. More CO2, more trees and plants, more oxygen and more food growing too. Cows eat Plants. Cutting down trees to build solar farms is counterproductive and stupid.

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Jun 20, 2023 07:23:57   #
Mogon
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
If we don't have carbon dioxide, we won't have oxygen. Plants use CO2 to make O2. More CO2, more trees and plants, more oxygen and more food growing too. Cows eat Plants. Cutting down trees to build solar farms is counterproductive and stupid.


It’s the Democrat way!!

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