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Aug 11, 2013 23:12:23   #
Snoopy
 
First of all it is armor-piercing ammo. Second, no one can own a fully automatic weapon without a special Federal government permit.

Get your facts and spelling correct.

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Aug 11, 2013 23:47:55   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
Snoopy wrote:
First of all it is armor-piercing ammo. Second, no one can own a fully automatic weapon without a special Federal government permit.

Get your facts and spelling correct.


I think you need a class 3 liscense to own fully automatic weapons, right? I forgot all the letigation stuff involved.

The average person isn't going around with fully automatic AKs with military grade ammo like many of these far-left fearmongers like to put on. They take advantage of people's ignorance of guns and gun owners like Rumitoad here.

The people who get their hands on these types of weapons and commit these mass shootings have obtained them through means that scoffs at gun laws and regulations. They don't give a damn about gun laws. You can have every gun law under the sun or even ban guns and someone somehow will get a gun. You cannot uninvent the gun just like you cannot uninvent human nature. You far-left twats can't get that through your thick pig-headed skulls.

Pathetic.

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Aug 11, 2013 23:53:25   #
Snoopy
 
Spend more money on mental health because most of these Mass shootings have been committed by those people.

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Aug 11, 2013 23:59:53   #
usmc4
 
Ghost wrote:
I think you need a class 3 liscense to own fully automatic weapons, right? I forgot all the letigation stuff involved.

The average person isn't going around with fully automatic AKs with military grade ammo like many of these far-left fearmongers like to put on. They take advantage of people's ignorance of guns and gun owners like Rumitoad here.

The people who get their hands on these types of weapons and commit these mass shootings have obtained them through means that scoffs at gun laws and regulations. They don't give a damn about gun laws. You can have every gun law under the sun or even ban guns and someone somehow will get a gun. You cannot uninvent the gun just like you cannot uninvent human nature. You far-left twats can't get that through your thick pig-headed skulls.

Pathetic.
I think you need a class 3 liscense to own fully a... (show quote)


A Class3 Federal stamp is $200.00.

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Aug 12, 2013 00:02:31   #
rumitoid
 
Snoopy wrote:
First of all it is armor-piercing ammo. Second, no one can own a fully automatic weapon without a special Federal government permit.

Get your facts and spelling correct.


Lol, "round" and "ammo" are not somehow synonymous? If I asked you how many rounds you have left in the middle of a firefight, would you ask me, "Do you mean ammo?"

I never said you could own a fully automatic weapon without a special Federal government permit; however, the conversion is easy and taught at gun shows and online. Certain assault weapons, that were previously and justly banned, fall in this category.

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Aug 12, 2013 00:05:17   #
rumitoid
 
rumitoid wrote:
Lol, "round" and "ammo" are not somehow synonymous? If I asked you how many rounds you have left in the middle of a firefight, would you ask me, "Do you mean ammo?"

I never said you could own a fully automatic weapon without a special Federal government permit; however, the conversion is easy and taught at gun shows and online. Certain assault weapons, that were previously and justly banned, fall in this category.


Talk about distratcing from the main point.

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Aug 12, 2013 00:07:17   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
I failed to see Obama. The "death panel" crap was started by the lies or misinformed rants of a Tea Party woman. Stupid people, if real, does not mean it is orchestrated by Obama or Democrats. Listen to this divisive claptrap as the heart and mind of Democrats is the virus destroying this country. THINK! dammit.


I was not talking about your King Obama.

The videos are a spoof, none of the petitions are real, they are meant to highlight how gullible lemmings follow blindly, and to show their stupidity, much like you. Oh that last part was rude, I do not know you so I can not say whether or not you are stupid. I should have said that many of your responses make you appear stupid.

Nor did I mention who started or perpetuated the Death Panel.

Apparently you have such tunnel vision that you are blinded to how America has changed from a thinking and logical society into "Go along to get along" society of illiterate entitlement minded zombies. Whatever is politically correct is accepted, and not necessarily what is right.

It appears that you may be a troll, just looking for an argument. Sorry, I will not play your games. I suggest you go bother someone else.

Thank you and do have a wonderful night.

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Aug 12, 2013 00:10:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Ghost wrote:
I think you need a class 3 liscense to own fully automatic weapons, right? I forgot all the letigation stuff involved.

The average person isn't going around with fully automatic AKs with military grade ammo like many of these far-left fearmongers like to put on. They take advantage of people's ignorance of guns and gun owners like Rumitoad here.

The people who get their hands on these types of weapons and commit these mass shootings have obtained them through means that scoffs at gun laws and regulations. They don't give a damn about gun laws. You can have every gun law under the sun or even ban guns and someone somehow will get a gun. You cannot uninvent the gun just like you cannot uninvent human nature. You far-left twats can't get that through your thick pig-headed skulls.

Pathetic.
I think you need a class 3 liscense to own fully a... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 12, 2013 00:49:42   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
usmc4 wrote:
A Class3 Federal stamp is $200.00.


I was thinking it was way more than that.

I'll stick to what I got. I don't need a M60 machine gun to keep hooligans off my backyard.

But it would be hella cool to have one though just to say "I got one of those!" :mrgreen:

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Aug 12, 2013 00:52:21   #
rumitoid
 
ginnyt wrote:
I was not talking about your King Obama.

The videos are a spoof, none of the petitions are real, they are meant to highlight how gullible lemmings follow blindly, and to show their stupidity, much like you. Oh that last part was rude, I do not know you so I can not say whether or not you are stupid. I should have said that many of your responses make you appear stupid.

Nor did I mention who started or perpetuated the Death Panel.

Apparently you have such tunnel vision that you are blinded to how America has changed from a thinking and logical society into "Go along to get along" society of illiterate entitlement minded zombies. Whatever is politically correct is accepted, and not necessarily what is right.

It appears that you may be a troll, just looking for an argument. Sorry, I will not play your games. I suggest you go bother someone else.

Thank you and do have a wonderful night.
I was not talking about your King Obama. br br ... (show quote)


I did not say that you stated who was to blame for the "death panels" lie; I told you who was. Lol, and I have seen these videos and in other threads; they are not unfamiliar...so I know they are framed to make people (specifically intended to make Lefties) look stupid. Hey, they may not even be edited to produce the desire effect...and they may. Who cares?

As to being a troll: define, please? And while you are up, what responses were stupid? Those which did not agree with yours? You can be like the rest of your crowd, insulting to make some personal point. Call me stupid or my repsonses stupid. Or give intelligent answers. Whatever I think of you does not enter into the discussion. But feel free to make namecalling the topic.

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Aug 12, 2013 01:08:23   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
rumitoid wrote:
"It is my opinion, based on the newspapers, television, and such that people who legally own guns are not the people committing the crimes."
Which was my point.

The typical argument is that gun-control equates, as you have interpeted the comments, to taking away all guns. Have never heard this argument anywhere. This is simply NRA propaganda. If it were true, NRA ads and a good many Republicans would be in a frenzy to put a name and a face to such an outlandish idea. It has not happened. Instead, it is the paranoid slippery slope idea of registering all gun sales and ownership: first Hilerian step in confiscation, lol.
"It is my opinion, based on the newspapers, t... (show quote)


I will provide you with a lovely little site. Enjoy your reading.

Www.dailykos.com. Search for "How to Ban All Guns".

Do all of us a favor. Read it and then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stay out of any discussion on this matter!!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: This should not be a problem for you as you have little issue with loss of Constitutional rights. I chose to usurp yours on this issue! :!: :-P :hunf:

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Aug 12, 2013 01:13:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
usmc4 wrote:
A Class3 Federal stamp is $200.00.


I thought it went up recently to $300.00. Yes/No?

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Aug 12, 2013 01:15:08   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not say that you stated who was to blame for the "death panels" lie; I told you who was. Lol, and I have seen these videos and in other threads; they are not unfamiliar...so I know they are framed to make people (specifically intended to make Lefties) look stupid. Hey, they may not even be edited to produce the desire effect...and they may. Who cares?

As to being a troll: define, please? And while you are up, what responses were stupid? Those which did not agree with yours? You can be like the rest of your crowd, insulting to make some personal point. Call me stupid or my repsonses stupid. Or give intelligent answers. Whatever I think of you does not enter into the discussion. But feel free to make namecalling the topic.
I did not say that you stated who was to blame for... (show quote)


Sorry, my lapse of manners is inexcusable. I had no right in judging you or your opinions. Certainly, my opinions are not always correct and at times I have to rethink my position because I become better educated on the subject. My wisdom is not infallible. In calling you or your input stupid only showed intolerance on my part and certainly reflected poorly on my character. I offer you no excuses for my bad behavior, I can only say that I was careless and wrong.

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Aug 12, 2013 01:15:30   #
rumitoid
 
AuntiE wrote:
I will provide you with a lovely little site. Enjoy your reading.

Www.dailykos.com. Search for "How to Ban All Guns".

Do all of us a favor. Read it and then PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stay out of any discussion on this matter!!!!! :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: This should not be a problem for you as you have little issue with loss of Constitutional rights. I chose to usurp yours on this issue! :!: :-P :hunf:


Lol, okay. Usurp granted.

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Aug 12, 2013 12:43:31   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
rumitoid wrote:
I did not misunderstand. Being totally against gun control is akin to anarchy; this is a nation of laws. No one is taking away your rights by asking that you be responsible in gun-ownership to the community. NO ONE HAS A PLAN TO TAKE AWAY YOUR GUNS! OR THE RIGHT TO OWN ONE! Do you need arm-piercing rounds and no registration and fifty round clips and automatic-fire to stop a burglar? If your enemy is the state, our country, that you plan to attack instead of going through due process to change, then buy a tank or atom-bomb. If America, seriously flawed, is the bad guy yet has always resolved its deepest defects, then defect or organize rebellion.



"He actually got people to sign a petition to do away with the first amendment, euthanasia for old people, and to open prison door and let all Mexican criminals out regardless of what they had done."
Lol, total paranoid BS. It is so incredibly absurd, I am sorry I bothered to respond.
I did not misunderstand. Being totally against gun... (show quote)


Did you just say that you haven't seen any of my links about this attempt to prove there are many uninformed and idiotic people in the city of San Diego? Maybe you missed the ones that took place on college campuses. If you really believe that these petitions are paranoid BS obviously you haven't heard the man trying to convince people who wouldn't sign because it was silly that it was a kind of Candid Camera kind of thing.

I will say that leaners would say just what you said here in an attempt to make others think that the poster you are calling paranoid and ridiculous really is what you say. You do know that one of the Alinsky methods is to do just what you tried to do here, don't you?

You keep on with all that crap about no-one has a plan to take away our guns but always fail to discuss just what Feinstein and the rest do want to do. I would never have believed that Holder and Obama wanted to let some of the people Holder is talking about out of jail but sure enough that is his expressed method of cutting back on the people in jail. I would say that since our laws provide jail for first time users or pushers he should be working to get those laws changed instead of trying to do it by executive fiat which he is doing. I guess he has had so much success at changing laws that way instead of the legal way he is willing to do it now. What do you know about what plans he and his leader have in mind for us once they get all the addresses of gun owners? You make the noise but have no proof, it seems.

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